Roy and Mewtwo to be in US/PAL version of brawl/DL for japan-PROVEN FAKE

[Aurora Jenny]

There's just enough evidence for and against this supposed 'leak' I'll wait till Friday, or when the Wii Ware channel guy speaks. There's TWO speakers we're interested in right?

 

[tirkaro]

But Serebii has NEVAR been wrong. If this is true, that'll be the first time. That'd be crazy.

Whilst I'm trying to be neutral, Tfox hasn't been wrong either.(The 35 roster thing doesn't count, since that was only him expressing an opinion).

Fame doesn't exactly=credibility

 

[courte]

for those of us who aren't knee deep in poke-politics, the first most of us heard of serebii is when the controversy broke out, before then i'll admit i never even heard of the guy. Chronobound however i have known for quite some time, thanks to the Roy support thread. I think a nomination for most intelligent on smashboards holds some salt i.e. he wouldn't go blabbing false truth's knowing what it'd do to his rep, unlike so many of those other prophets/leakers... didn't we have like 50 or so up until the hong kong release

my bad... no idea who tfox is... what does anybody think about that ign review?? i'm so not trying to cover my embarrassment

 

[Disco Ninja Monkey]

Where does Serebii actually say there's no DLC?

 

[ChronoBound]

I am typing a very long essay as to my thoughts on this subject. It will take a while to complete, so please be patient.

 

[Indignant]

Where does Serebii actually say there's no DLC?

Good point. Also...Serebii's claims could well have been true when he heard them. It could likely be that the decision to "uncut" Mewtwo came AFTER Serebii heard his leak.

 

[AerionTOFAST4U]

There was in melee.

What was the diffrence? :O I haven't heard of this

 

[Revven]

I am typing a very long essay as to my thoughts on this subject. It will take a while to complete, so please be patient.

I look forward to this very long and well written essay, ChronoBound.

 

[ConeZone]

as do i...but i just cannot believe that mewtwo and roy are in it...don't people already have the american version of the game and have everything unlocked?

 

[Brawlmatt202]

Well, this is... Weird...

I'm not buying it until further investigation.

 

[gangstajuice02]

yup let's wait for the GDC to see if this is true!

 

[NJzFinest]

Interesting. I wonder if these characters will actually be good this time xD

NEO and Taj will be pleased.

 

[DekuBoy]

It looks possible and it would be fantastic... but I have my doubts.
Every so-called 'prophet' or 'source' is reliable. I say: wait for an actual leak: eg. screenshots, or Sakurai's word.
Even so Pokemon would be over-repped.

 

[gangstajuice02]

X-play can't be trusted.

it was the japanese version NOT the US!!

 

[M.K]

Hmm, ok.

Let me tell you a story about Serebii. In Pokemon Battle Revolution, there are these two codes that you can input to receive an Electivire and Magmortar respectively. Serebii posted on his website about the two fairly powerful Pokemon, but did not reveal the code AT ALL for at least 1-2 months. Later, people found out that Serebii Joe KNEW the code when he first revealed the information, but did not post it and kept it in a concentrated group of people.

Also, during the months before the American release , April 22nd 2007, everyone was speculating the American-ized names of the pokemon. Naturally, they were pretty dumb. Once it was released, people saw every name. Some others went back and looked at the speculation threads and saw that some people cleverly hid the correct names in their posts among other "wrong" names. Serebii supposedly admitted that he knew the names and YET AGAIN, only introduced them into a small population of elitists.

So, going through that, I'm not going to trust Serebii just yet.

 

[gangstajuice02]

Hmm, ok.

Let me tell you a story about Serebii. In Pokemon Battle Revolution, there are these two codes that you can input to receive an Electivire and Magmortar respectively. Serebii posted on his website about the two fairly powerful Pokemon, but did not reveal the code AT ALL for at least 1-2 months. Later, people found out that Serebii Joe KNEW the code when he first revealed the information, but did not post it and kept it in a concentrated group of people.

Also, during the months before the American release , April 22nd 2007, everyone was speculating the American-ized names of the pokemon. Naturally, they were pretty dumb. Once it was released, people saw every name. Some others went back and looked at the speculation threads and saw that some people cleverly hid the correct names in their posts among other "wrong" names. Serebii supposedly admitted that he knew the names and YET AGAIN, only introduced them into a small population of elitists.

So, going through that, I'm not going to trust Serebii just yet.

Who is Serebii?!

 

[Zek]

I really feel bad for you guys getting your hopes up over this. You're just setting yourself up for another big fall. Is it possible that this is true? Technically, yes. Is it at all likely? NO. You guys can believe whatever you want, but don't act surprised if it turns out to be just another fake praying on your desperate hopes for a better roster.

 

[NJzFinest]

Who is Serebii?!

A guy who gets info on anything pokemon related before anyone else.


Go to serebii.net or google him

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

Serebii runs Serebii,net, a pokemon website. He apparently has a contact at Nintendo, and he spread some informatuion here at the SWF.

 

[•Col•]

Who is Serebii?!

He runs what's considered the biggest Pokemon fansite on the net. He's had inside info. on games before...

 

[M.K]

I really feel bad for you guys getting your hopes up over this. You're just setting yourself up for another big fall. Is it possible that this is true? Technically, yes. Is it at all likely? NO. You guys can believe whatever you want, but don't act surprised if it turns out to be just another fake praying on your desperate hopes for a better roster.

You can't tell people what they believe and can't believe. Also, it's more than unlikely due to the huge evidence:

1. Data found in the game's coding for these characters
2. IGN denied a copy of the "unfinished" Brawl for testing.
3. Source is at least somewhat reliable.

It's not like someone just came into a room and shouted "ZoMGGG DLCCCC"

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

But Serebii has NEVAR been wrong. If this is true, that'll be the first time. That'd be crazy.

Yes, but Serebii lies about what he knows and tries to keep it some deep secret while telling a bunch of his mod friends on Serebii.net forums secretly.

 

[ChronoBound]

I have made some amazing discoveries in my research essay about this rumor. I am not sure whether my findings will bolster the chances of this rumor being true or not, but they are outstanding to say the least. The essay unfortunately won't be complete for another several hours.

 

[Nuvia]

You can't tell people what they believe and can't believe

He said nothing of the sort. He said you shouldn't get your hopes up then have a conniption if it turns out to be a lie, which I whole heartedly agree with.

 

[WeeklyJumpman]

If DLC isn't true, then I'll still be thrilled that Dixie (my most wanted character) was originally intended to be playable.

I'm glad she was among the few chosen.

 

[M.K]

ARGH, the suspense. DARN YOU CHRONOBOUND....

Just Kidding, take your time :D

 

[espio87]

I have made some amazing discoveries in my research essay about this rumor. I am not sure whether my findings will bolster the chances of this rumor being true or not, but they are outstanding to say the least. The essay unfortunately won't be complete for another several hours.

lets hope it doesn't unleash a flame war like this *crosses fingers*

 

[Masque]

If they had come back, even as clones, it would've still meant more characters. Plus, some people, me included, actually really liked them. Well... I was one of the people who's said from the beginning that they should go.. now I miss them. They made it in melee so I wouldn't consider their spots wasted if they'd made it to brawl.

Eh, but this roster is a lot better than Melee's and less clone-ish. Most--if not all--of the clones have been de-cloned, at least in part. Why rope in Pichu and Doc to mess things up?

Pichu should be an alternate costume for Plusle and Minun, so we have the Pichu Bros.
But Pichu can't be a costume for Pikachu, because Pikachu is nearly twice as big.

Eh. Size, schmize. People ***** about big characters like Bowser and Ridley when Olimar, Kirby, and Pikachu were all drastically enlarged for Smash. Size doesn't really make a difference. If he's an alternate costume, he's just a fat Pichu. Simple.

I think what would offend me the most about Plusle & Minun / Pichu Bros. (good way to keep Pichu from being playable--nice job) is that it makes the Pokéverse seem too homogeneous. The games aren't all teeming with little electric rodents, you know. Thank goodness for PT and the variety he brings!

When DOESN'T PAL get screwed

Aw... *hug*

Sorry 'bout that, pal. (No pun intended.) I can't quite say that I know your pain, but I feel for ya.

...Tfox is literally as legit as Serebii. He's post a bunch of technical **** about Advance Wars and specific details on ALL the infantry in the game of Days of Ruin, all turning out to be true.

And Serebii is a terrible liar. He also denied that he ever said Lucario replaced Mewtwo constantly and said Lucario didn't replace Mewtwo at all. Well, he did. He told a bunch of the mods of the Serebii.net forums (which I actually got info from about this) and they all knew beforehand that Lucario was in Mewtwo's spot in Brawl. Either Serebii is just denying it, or he doesn't know.

Hm...well, that helps. It's not that I don't want to believe it--I would love to see DLC in Smash, especially downloadable characters. It's just that I have a hard time believing something like this, given the rumor-laden atmosphere that has engulfed Smashboards since the DOJO's inception.

I don't recall Serebii saying that Lucario didn't replace Mewtwo at all; I do, however, recall him claiming that he "never said that." We all knew otherwise, but he never (to wit) claimed that Lucario didn't replace Mewtwo. I could be mistaken, but from what I recall, he never denied Lucario's inclusion and Mewtwo's exclusion.

Bottom line: I don't think Serebii has ever outright lied about what is or isn't in the game, he's merely lied about whether he stated something or not. Kind of a semantic issue, but an important point to make in this context.

But Serebii has NEVAR been wrong. If this is true, that'll be the first time. That'd be crazy.

Kind of my feelings. To the best of my recollection, he's never stated something about the game that he knew to be false; instead, he will either refrain from commenting or say something ambiguous about the situation. And maybe he just legitimately doesn't know. It's too hard to tell.

I am typing a very long essay as to my thoughts on this subject. It will take a while to complete, so please be patient.

I can just see it now...

Due to delays in the completion of the essay regarding downloadable characters in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, I’ve had to change the post date of the essay to Sunday, March 9th.

I deeply apologize to the people who have looked forward to reading the editorial for so long and ask that you hold on just a little longer. Thank you for your patience.

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

I have made some amazing discoveries in my research essay about this rumor. I am not sure whether my findings will bolster the chances of this rumor being true or not, but they are outstanding to say the least. The essay unfortunately won't be complete for another several hours.

Excelent, hope it's good news ^_^

 

[Darkslash]

Hmm If DLCs turn out to be true...............All hell will break loose.

If they DLCs don't happen im happy with Wolfy :D

 

[ChronoBound]

The analysis paper is now over two pages long. I am taking my time on it, so please be patient. Many of you are going to be in disbelief, however, I think the GameFAQs community will be in even more disbelief.

 

[BtCE]

The truth of the matter is that the burden of truth is on tfox and he seems to not be greatly motivated to come forth with new information. Now, I know that this was only revealed yesterday/ the day before, but in communities this large [and this includes GameFAQs], you can't leak a small amount of information, regardless of whether it is true, without some more concrete evidence, and then disappear from time to time. Remember all of the "character leaks" ? Now, the ones we could trust were the people who have had a past history of being correct - and nobody can seem to find the leaks that tfox has claimed. I greatly, greatly hope that he is telling the truth and this comes true - but hope doesn't matter here, and I wholeheartedly doubt this until we here what Snakey/ChronoBound has to say or we hear more from tfox. There's just too much doubt surrounding this supposed "leak". So, as fans, let's hope he's right, but using common sense, we need to assume that he is lieing, unless we here further from Sakurai, and maybe him.

 

[MookieRah]

The truth of the matter is that the burden of truth is on tfox and he seems to not be greatly motivated to come forth with new information. Now, I know that this was only revealed yesterday/ the day before, but in communities this large [and this includes GameFAQs], you can't leak a small amount of information, regardless of whether it is true, without some more concrete evidence, and then disappear from time to time. Remember all of the "character leaks" ? Now, the ones we could trust were the people who have had a past history of being correct - and nobody can seem to find the leaks that tfox has claimed. I greatly, greatly hope that he is telling the truth and this comes true - but hope doesn't matter here, and I wholeheartedly doubt this until we here what Snakey/ChronoBound has to say or we hear more from tfox. There's just too much doubt surrounding this supposed "leak". So, as fans, let's hope he's right, but using common sense, we need to assume that he is lieing, unless we here further from Sakurai, and maybe him.

Congrats on what is one of the best first posts I have ever seen.

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

...where exactly is this going to be posted?

 

[ChronoBound]

...where exactly is this going to be posted?

I am planning on posting it in this topic. However, if you guys like it enough I might make a new topic just for it.

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

Okay then, I can't wait to read it ^_^

 

[hectichobo]

Here is a link related to the topic....

http://www.qj.net/Rumor-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl-Wii-Channel-in-the-works-/pg/49/aid/113523

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

That articale has already been proven fake...hasn't it?

 

[Bane84]

That articale has already been proven fake...hasn't it?

Yes. By The Panda himself.

 

[Ricard_the_dragoon]

Okay, I thought so