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The only reason Chrom is largely not wanted is because most people haven't played his game and he stands in the way of other possible more wanted candidates, this may change once FE13 is released in the West though.
Quoted for truth.
Response to Arcade Logic:
Uhh, there's actually nothing wrong with that... Cutting 70% of the roster and only keeping the leads like in Pic related and adding a bunch of new characters isn't as bad an idea os you make it sound. Especially since Nintendo is an evolving company it also has many IPs which are either dead (Mother) or dying (F-Zero and StarFox).
We've been over this before, there really is nothing wrong with wanting new faces over characters we've already played as before. Likewise with revamping old staple characters so they play differently.
It's funny you should say that because many people consider Alpha 3 and Third Strike to be much better games than any of the SF4 iterations (and I agree), one of the reasons being the roster, and despite the initial disapproval against cutting most of the classics, many people grew to like the SF3 characters and their styles. Also, your argument at comparing Smash to SF4 and the like is very weak, as there are many differences among all the SF installments to make them all play very differently from each other, and no SF sequel ever felt like an "expansion to the last game," not to mention SF4 has many cut characters as well, and is by no means an expansion as you (ironically) claim. It is actually more like what people want for Smash Bros. I can guarantee you when SF5 rolls around, many of the characters from SSF4AE won't be in the roster.
You couldn't trade Pokemon from Gens 1 and 2 into 3, and hacking doesn't count as we can Hack Smash Bros as well.
That still doesn't discredit the fact that a Gen 6 rep is likely just like Chrom is likely.
What if we get Lucario and Gen 6 but no Mewtwo?
Well yeah, of course representing every Gen with playables is absurd. I guess I misinterpreted your post man, my bad.
Mewtwo vs Lucario is proberly the best example of the war of.Chrom will most likely still take priority over Roy though, as well as keeping Ike over Roy. He has literaly no advantages over those two.
Mewtwo vs Lucario is a tough one though...
Lucario is a lot less relevant now though, so both would now be popular / fanbase choices, which complicates stuff even more.Mewtwo vs Lucario is proberly the best example of the war of.
Fanbase/Popular Vs. Revelancy/New...
How would you lot feel about.
Pika
Mewtwo
Lucario
PT
5/6 Gen?
(no jiggs basicly...)
I agree, in fact adding gimmicks to characters is a great way to make them all play very uniquely even if they have some similar moves here and there. BlazBlue does a great job at demonstrating this with the unique Drives each character has, no two characters are anything alike:
Now, as much as I want this to be true, it seems somewhat unlikely, however, if you think about a few things for a little, there is chance this MIGHT be true after all.
I really think there are several more factors contributing to a character's inclusion or exclusion... and relevancy is just one of them. There's recentness, anatomy, who developed their games, and so on.
My gimmick for Duck Hunt Dog involves breaking the fourth wall. The dog points in one way, the hunter (the person playing Duck Hunt) shoots from the fourth wall at wherever the dog is pointing at. Sure, it would look like a magic explosion but it's really a cartoony gunfire explosion. My reasoning for this is that the dog always seem to break the fourth wall by laughing at you (the person playing Duck Hunt) whenever you miss a shot. It's like the dog is aware that he is in a video game and he's trolling us just by being on the roster instead of another popular character.
I thought that Nintendo had all the rights for everything DK related that Rare created... I don't think Microsoft is in position to stop Nintendo from releasing games that are owned 100% by Nintendo themselves. Could be wrong, though...
I would love to see it happen. I want Kamiya to make a Star Fox and Takamaru game
well, if that's true, that should explain it then.
You've earned your title as ManlySpirit in my eyes, as this would literally be the best case scenario. Or as I like to say, the best thing ever!I agree, in fact adding gimmicks to characters is a great way to make them all play very uniquely even if they have some similar moves here and there. BlazBlue does a great job at demonstrating this with the unique Drives each character has, no two characters are anything alike:
Ragna steals health
Jin freezes opponents
Noel changes and links her combos
Tsubaki charges her specials
Hazama uses that chain thing to pull himself/opponents closer
Bullet has auto-grapple combos
Azrael finds and exploits weakpoints
Mu-12 deploys auto-fire guns at a distance
etc...
Anyway, on a slightly different topic, I know we've talked about this before, and I may be a bit slowpoke here, but I've heard this rumor that I just can't seem to ignore.
You want an unexpected left field character that would be as surprising for most to see as Snake? There is only ONE character that can do that at this point:
[COLLAPSE="Yep..."][/COLLAPSE]
Anyway, I keep hearing rumors that Nintendo was negotiating with Microsoft to try and buy Rare just for the sake of earning rights to the Banjo IP. Well, I did some digging up and this is what I came up with:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-japanese-video-game-market-one-ip-at-a-time/
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/c...negotiate-its-way-into-ownership-of-banjo-and
Now, as much as I want this to be true, it seems somewhat unlikely, however, if you think about a few things for a little, there is chance this MIGHT be true after all.
First and foremost, there's the fact that Retro is supposedly working on a game that "everyone wants them to work on." Now I find it unlikely that it's Banjo Kazooie, but nowdays, people do consider Retro Studios the spiritual successor to Rare, and with how Nintendo treats them, there certainly is a resemblace. In fact many old Rare devs are working at Retro now supposedly. There is also this little tidbit about the old Banjo team wanting to make a spiritual successor for the series: http://gamerant.com/spiritual-successor-banjo-kazooie/. So, what if? What if Retro was working on a 3D platformer similar to Banjo, and Nintendo just decided to try and buy rights to the game in hopes of having a stronger name to stand on?
There's more though, a couple pages back, we talked about that supposed Diddy Kong Racing game supposed to be in development for the WiiU. We talked about how Monster Games would have to find ways to replace beloved Rare characters like Banjo and Conker and Tiptup with other IPs. But, if Retro was working on a title like what I suggested, then Nintendo would now have TWO reasons to try and make those Rare IPs 1st party Nintendo IPs.
Now, with Rare being M$'s Kinnect team, it's very unlikely they would sell the studio to Nintendo and tbh, Nintendo's better of without them, as they're Rare only in name nowdays. However, considering how poorly Rare did with the past generations, and how M$ doesn't seem to have any interest in either working with the Rare IPs, nor letting Rare make any more games. It is possible they might sell the rights to "dead" IPs for some quick cash. Think about it, as far as M$ cares, Banjo Kazooie was a failed project, and even Rare voiced their opinion on how "modern gamers only wanna shoot stuff." So what if negotiations DID indeed happen and Nintendo earned the rights to the Rare IPs and may even bought a couple employees? As mentioned in the forbes article, Nintendo DID buy Monolith Soft, and they've been very focused on getting their hands on exclusive IPs for their WiiU, so it's not too much of a stretch really.
Maybe I'm just grasping at straws because I REALLY want this to be true, but picture this:
@E3 2013
-Nintendo showcases a new trailer and demos for Pokemon "Coldplay."
-People are excited, but it's expected.
-Then a trailer for the new DKR, the trailer has many of the expected faces, and it's similar to how we remember it, suddenly, we catch a glimpse of a notorious Bear with a pesky Bird nagging him about his poor piloting skills, then we see Conker and even Tiptup.
-Fans cheer at this unexpected reveal and figure M$ allowed them in, or something.
-Then, Reggie comes on stage and talks about how "WiiU won't only let you race with familiar faces, but also fight with them."
-And fans cheer at the announcement of the new Smash 4 trailer.
-The trailer comes up, and we see the expected stuff, Mario, Link, Pika, Samus, some new faces, maybe Saki, and Ridley, and the Gen 6 Pokemon. Finally, when things begin to slow down in the trailer we see a glimpse of our new Namco 3rd party be it Lloyd or Pacman.
-People cheer as the screen goes dark.... but WAIT!
-Suddenly we hear the sound of wind... Followed by the squawking of some bird as words appear on screen beside the face of a familiar Breegull, telling her partner how he got them lost again. Then, "Gu-gugu-gu-gu-gugu" as the bear replies "it's better to be late than never." All of this as the strings of a Banjo begin to intensify in a familiar Jingle as the screen begins to pan to the ground and the music speeds up, then we see a bear's foot leave a Blue Footprint on the ground followed by the classic "Gu-huh!"
-Only on WiiU Summer 2014
-Throughout all of this fans are dead silent as they cannot BELIEVE what they've just seen. "How?" "What?" "There's no way!!" " A rival 1st Party IP in Smash Bros?" And then, people begin to cheer, it echoes so loud that cheer can be heard across the planet.
-"But wait, there's more!" Reggie says as he comes on stage.
-"The promise of an old enemy, 'Just you wait until Banjo-Threeie.' That's right our very own Retro studios and the old banjo Team have come together to bring you the game you've always wanted. Banjo-Threeie, exclusive to WiiU."
-And the titles to the game appears behind him with the WiiU logo.
And then, at that moment, thousands of fans die due to increased blood pressure caused by the excitement of that day. E3 2013, the day the internet imploded.
Well, I can't see why Nintendo wouldn't want such a deal really. It would greatly benefit them, and their current trends tend to imply that they would attempt such a move.I would love to see it happen. I want Kamiya to make a Star Fox and Takamaru game
I think that Rare rumor is fake, since Zelda Informer often posts any rumors they get emailed for hits. But if the one about Monster Games making Diddy Kong Racing is true, and Nintendo did buy back the DKR cast (excluding Conker and Banjo) than that would at least give me hope for them considering to get Banjo back one day.
Well the rumors about Nintendo buying Rare came out around July of 2012, and the VC takedown was late 2012, so perhaps they're related somehow...
If that's the case, then I don't think Microsoft will sell those former Nintendo IPs. Come now, what benefit would they get from selling those to a competing company? Unless they think they haven't got anything to lose, I doubt they will sell the IPs.
I'm tempted to think the same thing as well.
Personally, I think Microsoft would be more than willing to sell Rare's IP. I think Nintendo is reluctant to give money to Microsoft (my reasoning for this is that Microsoft,Rare,and Activision were all in an agreement for Goldeneye HD, and Nintendo was the one who wouldn't agree to it). But even so, I think purchasing Rare's IP would be worth it alone for the VC purposes. Nintendo fans love Rare's old work, and Microsoft would be getting free money through Rare (they'd be getting a cut since they were the developers) and it's essentially a win win.
You playing with my emotions right now my n!gga.I agree, in fact adding gimmicks to characters is a great way to make them all play very uniquely even if they have some similar moves here and there. BlazBlue does a great job at demonstrating this with the unique Drives each character has, no two characters are anything alike:
Ragna steals health
Jin freezes opponents
Noel changes and links her combos
Tsubaki charges her specials
Hazama uses that chain thing to pull himself/opponents closer
Bullet has auto-grapple combos
Azrael finds and exploits weakpoints
Mu-12 deploys auto-fire guns at a distance
etc...
Anyway, on a slightly different topic, I know we've talked about this before, and I may be a bit slowpoke here, but I've heard this rumor that I just can't seem to ignore.
You want an unexpected left field character that would be as surprising for most to see as Snake? There is only ONE character that can do that at this point:
[COLLAPSE="Yep..."][/COLLAPSE]
Anyway, I keep hearing rumors that Nintendo was negotiating with Microsoft to try and buy Rare just for the sake of earning rights to the Banjo IP. Well, I did some digging up and this is what I came up with:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkai...-japanese-video-game-market-one-ip-at-a-time/
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/c...negotiate-its-way-into-ownership-of-banjo-and
Sony dropping out of the console making business is a reality getting close, unless Sony puts a trump card into play and blows the competition, which is very unlikely. The PS Vita should be more than proof to how Sony isn't being able to keep up with Nintendo in the handheld market.
