Rocky Mafia | Day 7 | Game Over | Roles/Night Actions/Comments up on pg 57/58

[unreon]

We're down to still having no clue about who is and isn't suspicious.

What a downer of a town we are =(

Okay, like Muzga and Luke have said, we need to investigate this moose-toshi-arrow relationship once and for all. Leisha put herself up to bite the bullet if moose's claims are true. This removes her from mafia status as long as she stays put. I will remain firm that he is telling the truth.

In which case, I've decided to vote along with Lord_Bowser and go after a lurker. Vlade has been busting people left and right, but yet to put any real affirmation behind who he deems suspicious. He remains neutral to all parties and yet to commit to any real decision. For these reasons, I have decided:

Vote: Vlade

 

[undead_moose]

Looks like there has been a change of plan

Im going to hop on the band wagon just so this game moves along

If there is a body guard/Doctor in this game protect me and effectivly you will be protecting two people. Powers powers powers and what not... OMG THERE COULD BE A DOCTOR Chris was at rocky... med student...

Im calling it There is a amesteru the town doctor in this game

Also

Vote: Vlade

 

[luke_atyeo]

look if we do wanna go for moose, we should go for toshi because that way we can circumvent dieing and it was when toshi was being targeted that arrow and moose started going ape**** and trying to stop it from happening. (if moose is telling the truth I can understand why he'd go all defensive, but why arrow? he suggested knowing things he shouldnt have)

 

[Vlade]

It looks like people are actually voting for me now

Which means I have a little information to give you guys. Whether you choose to believe me depends on how much you want the town to win.

I am a Paranoid Gun Owner. If you don't know what that is, I'll explain. Each night I must choose to either be 'tense' or 'relaxed'. If I'm 'tense' then anyone who targets me with an action at night will be killed. Yes, this includes Mafia. The downside to this is that doctors and cops can die from trying to heal/investigate me.

What this means is that I am untouchable by the Mafia, and this gives the town power over them because the only way I can be killed is from a lynch (unless I choose to be 'relaxed', which I have never planned on doing).

Believe me, IT WOULD BE VERY BAD to lynch me, merely because I am a guaranteed clear and it's the only way I can be killed. Since I am guaranteed to never be killed (provided I'm not lynched) my vote can be the one that puts the final nail in the coffin of a Mafia. This is a role that is not to be underestimated.

I feel that my actions throughout the game are justified. You guys have seen my strategy (though I do not want to say it blatantly for the Mafia). I do not want to make rash decisions which will ultimately hurt us, much like the no-lynch vote on the first day.

 

[Pete278]

God****it, you guys need to stop starting bandwagons on people you have no real reason to be suspicious about, or do you want the mafia to know every single role in the game? Lurking is not a good reason in a game with multiple people new to mafia, who may just be bored of the game.

 

[Vlade]

I really didn't want to reveal my role so soon for a chance of perhaps killing a mafia but it seems I really didn't have a choice

 

[xXArrowXx]

zzz i believe vlade -.-

i explained why i backed moose, if u read my posts.
it is logical to because the alternate screws town over more.

yeah chris is the doc. but that doesn't help unless we know who chris is... kinda pointless that fact.

if toshi is targetted moose takes the bullet... so no to that idea

also if we all reveal our roles should be fine =P if no one lies.

i dont have anything substansial to vote on. so anything i do will seem sus. and if i bandwagon that seems sus... and if i lurk that seems sus.

 

[xXArrowXx]

btw vlade who r u suspose to be at rocky :S i dont remember guns

 

[Vlade]

Kind of irrelevant, but I'm Kupo

 

[xXArrowXx]

we could make a list of people at rocky.
then tell each other who we are.. i am sure there would be some overlaps

 

[luke_atyeo]

yeah you did explain that stuff about moose, way later...

early on when we were going on about toshi and stuff you defended him in a suss way and said things that I dont think you would have known/said otherwise.

stop trying to get us to all reveal our roles

 

[xXArrowXx]

not your powers
just our names.

i thought it was obvious, i had to explain it in detail later because you people still dont understand.
btw u dont call every bluff its more likily if hes town hes telling the truth. and if hes mafia, evidence will pop up then him and toshi can be lynched easily later.

 

[xXArrowXx]

1. undead_moose
2. xXArrowXx
3. SummonerAU
4. LeishaChu
5. Sieg
6. Vlade
7. Luke_Atyeo
8. Muzga
9. Unreon
10. Pete278
11. Afropony
12. Lord Bowser
13. I_LAG
14. Toshi

therefore 14 rocky charaters.. these are important characters dont know the true list but i guess it would be like this
1. kupo (vlade)
2. cao
3. shaya
4. tibs
5. sd
6. kas
7. accelerate
8. mic128
9. tedeth
10. corps
11. dekar (the trolling one)
12. ammatratsu (the doc)
13. don
14. atyeo

but yeah if u own up to one of the names.. we can find out the mafia pretty easily

 

[Muzga]

It doesnt make you suss muzga to vote for me

Sad thing is you will die if the vote to lynch me passes

Sad face

Not really you deserve to die for voting me

I wanna vote Vlade but i dont really like basing my lynching opinions on lurking

Vote: Afropony

impossible to know if this is a bluff or not so im manning up and calling it. If i die im cool with it

 

[I LAG]

muzga why would you waste a vote and vote for moose?
he has a neutral role

also i am the only one that sees that sieg and unreon are mafia?

 

[Pete278]

I'm suspicious of unreon, since he's been part of two bandwagons on town recently. Second vote on one of them, as well.

 

[unreon]

Then Pete and ILag you would be wrong my friends. Well, ILag has been going after anyone and everyone, so who knows?

My vote against Nix has been a long time coming. The main reason was that he was so deadset for lynching the moose/arrow combo. After moose's reveal I suspected him of trying to make the town call the bluff and suffer a double hit for that reason. In fact, I started this accusation, and in light of recent events was shown to be wrong. (My bad, Nix). moose and arrow joined in.

I've noticed that Bowser has been hinting at a Vlade vote for awhile now, and after the modkill decided a formal vote. Nobody else had even thought of Vlade as a suspect before this - Bowser knows something we don't and is likely trustworthy. I normally wouldn't vote for a lurker so soon in the game, but I did so trying to see who would jump ship. only moose did so.

I might have been wrong a third time about moose's innocence. Take that for what you will. If we're calling the bluff and Muzga is willing to put his body up as a shield, so be it.

 

[Hobobloke]

I don't know for sure if Vlade is mafia or not, he was just extremely suspicious in my eyes. I'm not quite sure if he's telling the truth about his role, he could've done a bit of mafia research and found such a role to bluff when he was seemingly going to get lynched, I mean it's horribly convenient that he "can't" be killed by the mafia, if he's lying its just means we won't lynch him and obviously the mafia won't kill him.

 

[Hobobloke]

Oh and it's also convenient how he cant be investigated either to prove if he's telling the truth.

I dunno but seems like a perfect role for a mafia to bluff, on the other hand we stand to lose a valuable townie if heis telling the truth.

 

[xXArrowXx]

seems like something kupo would do....
unless someone else claims to be kupo, it seems like a safe role, since kupo wouldn't be mafia...

 

[Afropony]

muzga why would you waste a vote and vote for moose?
he has a neutral role

also i am the only one that sees that sieg and unreon are mafia?

I said that I was suspicious of Unreon and Summoner a few pages ago.
NOw that I think about where is Summoner? I havn't seen him post for a while.

 

[SummonerAU]

I'm just trying to decide who to vote atm. It's because I've been reading posts so much. It totally ISN'T because I was playing Diablo 2 for most of today. Not at all. Moving on.

Moose, you've claimed that you're jumping on the bandwagon just to speed up the game. First day is probably understandable, but second day after a modkill? It would seem to me that a protown player would want more time after a modkill of a town member as it essentially resets the day without the loss of another town member from mafia kills. Mafia or not, someone who doesn't have the patience to vote well shouldn't be signing up for the game.
Thus, Vote: undead_moose

As a side note, I am S.D. I also do not wish to reveal if I do or do not have a role at this point in time. But I WILL reveal that I have a post restriction. It requires me to post one sentence of off topic in my posts. As you may have noticed, some of my posts don't have that. I am on my FINAL WARNING for not following it
It's generally why my posts are longer than I would normally like.

 

[undead_moose]

Im speeding up day 2 because its almost at its deadline.....

 

[SummonerAU]

Then ask for an extension. I sure do love Diablo 2. Vyse clearly said people could do this. As it stands, I see you as either someone trying to pass of suspicion on bandwagons you vote on or that you're not paying attention to Vyse in the game. If you're indeed what you say you are, please pay more attention to Vyse.

 

[undead_moose]

Already had an extension it should be night 2 or hell even Day 3

 

[Vlade]

If you guys want to investigate me tonight, then there is a way, but then the cop will have to reveal himself

I choose 'relaxed'

Doctor saves me from being killed by Mafia
Cop investigates me

This also depends whether I can trust the doctor to save me too.

After just typing that, the potential for mindgames with this role suddenly hit me

 

[SummonerAU]

That's a bad idea Vlade. Sheep can fly. If the cop revealed himself, and the doc was protecting you, who would protect the cop? Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the cop to not reveal himself?

Or was that what you meant by mindgames?

 

[Vlade]

By mindgames I meant I can keep the mafia guessing whether I'm tense or relaxed

 

[Vlade]

Additionally, as of right now the doctor doesn't even know who the cop is, which means he doesn't know who to protect

 

[SummonerAU]

But you said that you would only change status if the cop revealed themself. He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well. For the cop to SAFELY investigate you, you have to tell him when you're relaxed. Which would have to be here where the mafia could read.

 

[unreon]

If we unanimously decide to reveal all our roles, what would that lead to? More or less confusion?

For one, lying about your role is probably much harder if you can't back up your information, or if your actions don't match your assigned role. After all, unified collaboration may work in our advantage.

Downside to this is that there is more information traffic to sift through.

Just throwing the idea out there.

 

[Vlade]

I never said that I would change status if the cop revealed themself

By the first sentence of that post I meant that he would have to reveal himself because he'd have to announce my innocence, thus revealing himself in that manner

It doesn't matter if the Mafia knows that I'm relaxed because the Doctor can protect me for this one night

After tonight if the Cop does his job the Doctor will also know who to protect

Is everyone up for this idea?

 

[Hobobloke]

Is it worth the cop revealing himself and forcing the doctor to protect only him every night from then on?

 

[SummonerAU]

Ah yes, that makes sense Vlade. He's finally back, to kick some tail. If the cop reveals you to be town, it'll be a huge advantage for us going into endgame as you'll be someone that the mafia has to sacrifice a member to kill. At least, I assume so. I don't see why you wouldn't go all tense after tonight.

 

[Vlade]

Actually, the Mafia CAN'T kill me

 

[I LAG]

SRSLY HOW STUPID MUST YOU BE TO VOTE FOR MOOSE???

HE HAS A NEUTRAL ROLE WHICH MEANS HE ISN'T MAFIA OR TOWN.

lets try to lynch someone tonight plz

preferably sieg since he is the most mafia
then unreon
then summoner/vlade/muzga

 

[Vlade]

We need a quick decision whether I should be investigated tonight

 

[Vlade]

In fact, if there's less than 4 responses in the next hour I'm going to go tense

 

[I LAG]

vlade you could destroy town by doing this

the town could lose the doc and cop in 1 night by you tricking them

i say its best just to take your word for it but i will keep an eye on you

 

[Vlade]

Why would I want to destroy town?

The only way I could be 'tricking' anyone is by lying about my role. If I lied about my role, then the fact that I choose to be tense or relaxed doesn't exist, so it's safe for the cop to investigate me anyway.

48 minutes for 5 people to agree with the investigation (I know I said 4 in the previous post but that was a typo)