XtricksterX
Smash Cadet
rob is kinda a middle tier guy, i mean he really can only punch you, flamming backflips, shoot lazers and discs and thats about it.
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ROB in the new tier list
- Thread starter GwJ
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Black Mantis
Smash Hero
You forgot about the gimps.
GwJ
Smash Hero
And that wrecks most of the cast.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
Especially the space animals with their horrible recoveries. The only reason Falco is a hard match-up is because of the chain grab.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
Just look at a gimp in action on fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksn4bMqLBWg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksn4bMqLBWg
GwJ
Smash Hero
Falco has no chaingrab on ROB except at extremely low percents because of ROB's floatiness. However ROB's floatiness is what makes him ******** in the matchup because he gets ***** by lasers. Falco isn't hard, he's just annoying.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
LOL, they combined our topics.
But yea, honestly, the way the metagame is playing out right now, ROB is where he should be, as sad as it is. TL and ZSS are a lot more viable at a higher level of play, IMO. Kirby only has like, 3 bad match ups, so I'm surprised he dropped. Pit... just no.
But yea, honestly, the way the metagame is playing out right now, ROB is where he should be, as sad as it is. TL and ZSS are a lot more viable at a higher level of play, IMO. Kirby only has like, 3 bad match ups, so I'm surprised he dropped. Pit... just no.
^that
Agreed. Apart from Zero Suit(Which there are like two of those who are threatening to ROB) ROB has good MUs on everyone else in C tier. Also some good MUs(when I say good I mean even.) in B(Lucario, advantage vs Pika) and A tier(even with Snake, Ice Climbers, Marth and Diddy)
Sad that someone who is considered one of the best ROB mains being so negative. Maybe we should abandon ship now that he fell in the tier list. There is a lot of potential with this character.(see above response to Mister Eric. It seems for as long as I have frequented the boards ROBs have suffered from "stinkin thinkin." Its like everyone ignore ever good thing he has and rather than recognize the flaws with our character and work around them. We would obsess and john with them.
Honestly how many characters can at least brag an even MU with Marth and Snake? Much less characters in ROBs current Tier. But you go ahead keep thinking ROB is worse than pit. As for MK I am trying to learn Diddy just for MK and DDD. That covers them. Aside from that ROB has a lot of viability.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
I blame MK (just like everyone else)
Trillest
Smash Ace
Guys how bout we actually do something about this share a little more love and info. Use this tier list as a reason to show how awesome rob is. I know it takes effort (which i personally hate) but updating the at's thread and getting some mu's done will srsly help some of us little robs 1 day have a chance at dreaming of being power ranked and making the back room.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Wow you're a dumb*** and anybody else who thinks tier lists decide if R.O.B. is bad. So ridiculous.Holy has to start using ROB moar
on another sad note
OUR CHARACTER IS **** NOW
They are right you know.
I mean it couldn't be the constant negative attitude that is oh-so contageous here. It couldn't be the sedentary MU discussions that have not been updated since last June. Nor could it be inactivity and inaction of everyone here. its because our character is bad because we lose to MK and DDD. So that means we shouldn't try to find ways around it.
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
^^^^^^^
this attitude is why I hesitate to post here.
this attitude is why I hesitate to post here.
Mister Eric: My attitude was Satirical. We can't honestly blame ROBs tier listing solely on MK. Nor can we honestly say he is **** just because of his tier listing now. I was just being sarcastic.
Truth be told we can blame MK and DDD on ROBs tier listing, But we must blame ourselves as well.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
If only MK was banned.........
That doesn't take away from the fact that we ROBs gotta step it up. MK has always been there and we gotta deal with that. Otherwise we'll drop even further. If he gets banned, yay, but we shouldn't hold one character accountable for why he's dropped every tier list.
^I agree entirely.
Black Mantis
Smash Hero
True ROB players do have to step it up. But MK has no bad match-ups. How can you compete against that?
Azuzu
Smash Cadet
I read the "Rob PR" thread when I was drunk and for some reason managed to read "ROB public relations". I think prior to this tier list, we got a lot of "negative hype" for no real reason other than people reading it somewhere and repeating it elsewhere with no ROBs to really counter that sentiment.
Anyhow, if the tier list degrades into a "vs metaknight" tier list, then maybe we're in the right place. I'd rather my opponents assume my character was week to be honest, but for accuracy, he's too low on this tier list.
Anyhow, if the tier list degrades into a "vs metaknight" tier list, then maybe we're in the right place. I'd rather my opponents assume my character was week to be honest, but for accuracy, he's too low on this tier list.
Do the best you can. No1 said anything about winning against him, because everyone does poor against him. But that's no excuse to why we do poorly against Snake, Wario, Diddy,
PIT
Oh, and what part of MD do you stay at lol?
Maybe. But how many characters feel like they beat ROB easily? Snakes, DDDs, Marths, ect. do. Even the MUs in our own tier feel like they beat us. These MUs we should be going about even with bit they all feel like they beat us. We need to prove them wrong. The tier list is supposed to be accurate but, like they say, step it up and he'll rise. No way we should be where we're at, but we only have ourselves to blame.
http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/R.O.B._(SSBB)
This is what they think of us...
Azuzu
Smash Cadet
Just a fast look over at these boards match up threads will tell you that isn't how these characters feel (they're all listed as even). Just another example of "negative hype".
Zwarm
Smash Hero
To be honest, I've never had trouble with Marths. I've only really had trouble with one Snake, and I just go Pikachu against DDD, LOL.
Silhouette
Smash Lord
ROB is a good character, I've proven that to most of Ohio so far and hopefully getting to some major tourneys soon in MW.
The only MU I consider unwinnable for ROB is MK (assuming both players are of equal skill), he shuts down our game entirely, mainly because he prevents us from even planking.
and there is definitely a need for an attitude adjustment, most ROBs don't come to the forums for tactics and info, its mostly social anymore, I've been considering putting together a vid of somenew AT's I've discovered or been experimenting with. I have not seen any other ROBs use them, and I have incorporated almost all in combat. but I don't have the time to do it with school, so it'll be awhile till i get anything out.
ALSO: Other forums pass new ATs and such IN PRIVATE, they don't post it for the world to see, I've seen Diddy mains do it countless times, they're really freaking secretive, we could look into this too. The downside is that any ROBs who just lurk won't get the info.
I've been meaning to talk with Mr.E and Mr. Eric about this since I see them alot, but I have yet to get a chance. We should try to be more connected about stuff.
I intend to share what info I can to improve all the ROBs.
The only MU I consider unwinnable for ROB is MK (assuming both players are of equal skill), he shuts down our game entirely, mainly because he prevents us from even planking.
and there is definitely a need for an attitude adjustment, most ROBs don't come to the forums for tactics and info, its mostly social anymore, I've been considering putting together a vid of some
ALSO: Other forums pass new ATs and such IN PRIVATE, they don't post it for the world to see, I've seen Diddy mains do it countless times, they're really freaking secretive, we could look into this too. The downside is that any ROBs who just lurk won't get the info.
I've been meaning to talk with Mr.E and Mr. Eric about this since I see them alot, but I have yet to get a chance. We should try to be more connected about stuff.
I intend to share what info I can to improve all the ROBs.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
In terms of shutting down ROBs game DDD is better at that with his ridic grab game. The main time MK ***** ROB is off stage, on stage ROB actually still has a lot of options. But yea, he does restrict ROB's ledge game, which becomes a very bad place for ROB in that matcup.
That's the point I was making lol. They say even but looking at them and their responses it becomes "well I can see 50-50, but it's like 55-45 our way". We should be beating these chars til it starts to sway in our favor.
Sounds like we need a ROB private group...and from lurking I always thought Mr. E and Mr. Eric were the same. Tells you how much I know.
DDD isn't that much of a prob to me actually. I beat Coney in friendlies and he said I know the MU pretty well. And yea MK just hurts wherever we go but on the ground it's not so bad. But most MKs spam air approaches and tornado so...
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
Yeah, I was very hesitant for posting what I did on here but man...R.O.B.'s seem so anxious for something new and we don't have an active backroom (at least I don't think because I'm not invited) sooo I went with it.
But I totally agree, I have a new mix up I'm workin on out of short hop fair that I'd like to talk to you about.
Dw, I get that a lot. And indeed we are from the same region, maining the same char, with very similar names...kinda annoying XD maybe one day I'll get so beepin good, people won't get us confused cause I will be so leet, and Mr. E will be so beepin scrubby...compared to me... that telling us apart will be cake.
Sounds like we need a ROB private group...and from lurking I always thought Mr. E and Mr. Eric were the same. Tells you how much I know.
j/k <3
Well can someone make the room? I'd make it but I'm not good enough IMO to do so, nor am I well known enough. And lol @ the name.
Mr.E
Smash Lord
Buuuuuuut I beat you last time we played
Silhouette
Smash Lord
Annnnnnd maybe ROBs outside of us 3 would know that if you posted results once in awhileBuuuuuuut I beat you last time we played
besides you guys still have to catch up to me first :smoke:
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
@Nova, I bet SiL will
@ Mr. E,
@SiL, mmmmmmmmmhm!
@ Mr. E,
@SiL, mmmmmmmmmhm!
Silhouette
Smash Lord
I figured I would too, and I'm willing, was just waiting for any comments from Chibo before I did.
Trillest
Smash Ace
@sil son do it the sooner the better :D
Mr.E
Smash Lord
Who the hell cares anyway? I don't!Annnnnnd maybe ROBs outside of us 3 would know that if you posted results once in awhile
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Comments on the what now?
We don't need a ROB back room, if that's what people are talking about. We've made like 4 or 5 now, and every single one has died within a week or so. Plus, I don't get the point of a character back room, we already have the ROB forums here, if we need to discuss stuff we can do it here (and just not pay attention to noobs lolololol).
We don't need a ROB back room, if that's what people are talking about. We've made like 4 or 5 now, and every single one has died within a week or so. Plus, I don't get the point of a character back room, we already have the ROB forums here, if we need to discuss stuff we can do it here (and just not pay attention to noobs lolololol).
Silhouette
Smash Lord
^^^Thats what I was waiting for
but the purpose was to be more private about AT/Tactic discussion, so we're not announcing to everyone what to expect from ROB.
I don't have the authority without the ok from someone like Chibo to make anything as official as a 'ROB Backroom', he's experienced with backrooms and I'm not.
I'll probably still make a smaller, less official private discussion group.
We could use something since our AT discussion is pretty dead.
but the purpose was to be more private about AT/Tactic discussion, so we're not announcing to everyone what to expect from ROB.
I don't have the authority without the ok from someone like Chibo to make anything as official as a 'ROB Backroom', he's experienced with backrooms and I'm not.
I'll probably still make a smaller, less official private discussion group.
We could use something since our AT discussion is pretty dead.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
You don't need approval from me to make it lol *modest*
But like announcing ATs honestly isn't a big deal, how many people out there that don't main ROB are gonna read the ROB forums? Very few people.
And until we actually find out that there are some ATs for ROB to do, theres nothing to discuss in that sense, seriously - we've got glide tossing. That's pretty much about it. And things beyond that like the Speed UpB are variations of it.
Btw I tried using the Speed UpB variation at the ledge a couple times in tourney at VC7, and even though it looks impressive as hell lol, it didn't get me one kill and got me killed once lol. It's mad easy to defend against if your opponent has a reaction time of a whole second or less lol (which is horrible btw).
But like announcing ATs honestly isn't a big deal, how many people out there that don't main ROB are gonna read the ROB forums? Very few people.
And until we actually find out that there are some ATs for ROB to do, theres nothing to discuss in that sense, seriously - we've got glide tossing. That's pretty much about it. And things beyond that like the Speed UpB are variations of it.
Btw I tried using the Speed UpB variation at the ledge a couple times in tourney at VC7, and even though it looks impressive as hell lol, it didn't get me one kill and got me killed once lol. It's mad easy to defend against if your opponent has a reaction time of a whole second or less lol (which is horrible btw).
Mister Eric
Twitch.tv/MisterbeepEric Twitter: @MisterbeepEric
Yuz, it isn't the best but you never know when it could come in handy. I've had some luck cancelling momentum with the down air and spiking a few times in srs matches. And, I feel that doing reverse ledge boosts are a bit safer due to back airs being your primary option.
dangit, im past post 777 now. thx chibo!
dangit, im past post 777 now. thx chibo!
Tin Man
Smash Hero
speed upB?, what is this?