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So far not one of you have done so(not to say you guys are not able to). Im here to either bring it back or keep the sinking ship afloat for a bit longer. Its up to all of you, show up or dont.
Few things:
Going to Whobo won't change much for the Melee scene. Whobo's success is dependent on the success of Brawl, not the success of Melee. At the end of the day, you could care less about how Melee fares in the tournament, and that's why Melee players aren't very thrilled about it. Texas Melee won't survive if it's treated like some secondary endeavor. That condescending tone that you don all the time on when you talk about Melee doesn't help. The whole idea of "We give you tournaments and all you do is complain." Who is "we"? Brawl TO's? The Melee scene doesn't need Brawl TOs planning its tournaments, it can never grow like that, especially when the TOs are people like you who are already predisposed to think that Melee is no longer important. Melee players need Melee TOs. Melee won't thrive as it should if it's under the wing of Brawl organizers.
Ah so your one of those purists. "Melee can only be ran by melee TOs if melee is expected to grow." Not only is that WRONG its just ********. When your ship is sinking you dont have the liberty to be picky about who is trying to help you.
Would you like to follow up with an argument for how I am wrong about that? Because I'm not gonna take it just because it came out of your mouth. Besides I'm making more reference to you personally when it comes to TOs because I know that you are one of the major TOs in Texas and I know that you don't give a damn about Melee. Melee certainly won't grow if you try to run it, because you just don't care about it, and if other TOs are like you, which is the impression I've gotten about Texas in general, then Melee won't grow at all.
Yes, I know exactly who you are. You're a prominent TO in Texas. Congrats for you. But I also know that you hold no regard whatsoever for the game itself and would even drop Brawl the moment a new SSB comes out. I learned that after that big topic you made on gamefaqs begging the Melee board to jump off the "sinking ship." Your fickle attitude prevents you from being good for the Melee scene. You're the perfect TO for Brawl, because Brawl is the newest game out, but when the next SSB comes out you'll drop it as fast as you did for Melee, and then you'll single handedly end the Houston Brawl community and abandon them for the next game. You don't care about Melee, and I'm sure that you don't really care about Brawl, you only care about what everyone is playing and you'll jump the bandwagon whenever you see fit. Sure you hold a lot of power to help Melee substantially, but you've gotta actually care about Melee to help it out. But you treat Melee like it's something whose fate has already been decided, and wouldn't go that extra mile to help Melee recover because you think it's gonna die soon anyway. But you're wrong, games like SF2 and 3, GG, and MvC have survived years of aging, even with new games coming out, and they haven't sunk. The reason why they are still alive is because they have a community of people who are passionate about the game itself, and you are certainly not that kind of person.
No, I don't think you can turn this around. I've already explained why in the previous paragraph. Your constant instance that Melee HAS to be a side event is exactly why you can't turn this around. I live in Louisiana, and Melee is just as strong there as Brawl is. At tournaments, Melee and Brawl are treated with equal importance, and they tend to be pretty successful. But apparently, it doesn't work like that in Texas. So if Texas Melee wants to grow, then Texas Melee players (or someone who cares about Melee and wants to see it grow) need to step up and hold a tournament.
Which is why I said that Melee players should attend Whobo.
You're right,but I think that's why DoH made this thread in the first place. I offered my suggestion. Simply: Melee TOs need to host Melee tournaments.
Read the whobo title and the front page. Melee is mentioned and has its own section for rules and fees. i have also told m2k who has for sure told people. i have also posted the whobo 3 on FB to over 50 people. Trust me, the word is out there but nothing ill happen if you guys dont post and help hype. Stop being lazy and tell your friends. Dont rely just on the TO. If you care about this game and its growth you will attend this at all cost because its not just a simple TYS its a WHOBO.
Too many maybes, most people now dont care about what you did in the past. All the players you mention were good players from before, i havent seen sideeffect for over 2 years, sethlon saw him at IT1 like over half a year ago, gabe just stopped playing (and moved away), and royr has pretty much proved that brawl sucked all his melee skills. In the end everything you did for melee is actually gone.
last weeks tys had 20 melee players, thats the biggest ive ever seen it.
Too many maybes, most people now dont care about what you did in the past. All the players you mention were good players from before, i havent seen sideeffect for over 2 years, sethlon saw him at IT1 like over half a year ago, gabe just stopped playing (and moved away), and royr has pretty much proved that brawl sucked all his melee skills. In the end everything you did for melee is actually gone.
Also we dont really care about what you did for brawl, i would actually be impressed if you were a gran TO for an actual competitive game and not my little pony i mean brawl. No offense but melee and brawl can never be bunched up together in houston because of YOU.
And we dont need melee revival threads because if you havent noticed, melee has so many new players coming in, eventually a new Melee TO will appear, who knows, there might be "a new" UH TO =D
last weeks tys had 20 melee players, thats the biggest ive ever seen it.
its growing in houston.
BOOM!!!!!! READ THIS ****!!!!
You can make the promises you want, but at the end of the day, I have no faith in you because you have no faith in Melee. I'm not gonna just all of a sudden believe that you have sincere feelings about Melee when for years you've been calling it a sinking ship and abandoned the scene that needed you. You haven't convinced me that you're any different, and I wouldn't trust a Melee revival to you because you're very likely to just give up. I'd much rather trust a Melee player, someone who is actually passionate about the game and doesn't think it's a sinking ship, try to bring it back. The issue is getting someone to step up.
Read the OP. DoH quoted someone from the SBR. The reason the community doesn't get along is because both sides think it's better to kill the other. According to M3D the best move for SWF, which is virtually the entire world of Smash, is to kill Melee, and that will never happen without a fight.
Dude if you dont trust me thats fine. While you wait for your "savior" the gallons continue o fill the ship. Im gonna go ahead and do my thing by holding melee at whobo. I hope you will be at whobo.....assuming you still care about melee.
Hes reasoning for "killing melee" runs much deeper than the words he used in his post. Its hard to explain without starting a war so im not gonna bother. All i can say is, what you read isnt all that was meant to be understood. There is much more.
I really like this guy, perfectly describes how the melee community feels. The sinking ship analogy isnt really working out... its 2011and brawl is almost 3 years old and it still cant get rid of melee. I think Brawl is the sinking ship here bro, a very scrubby annoying sinking ship...
Xyro has done more for what? brawl?
Please stop or you will get another 2 point infraction. Brawl has never tried to kill melee. Thats just ********. People have quit or they have moved on. Its simple. instead of siding with people how about you attend and support events that host the game you love sooo much.
With that said, let's see how WHOBO goes....the revival starts there....unless someone else want to get another venue and start a melee tournament/smashfest before WHOBO, be our guests. It'll help a lot.
Seriously stop, you're acting like a child. So stop insulting Brawl, it's scene, it's TOs, all of it. That's not what this thread is about. Either say something constructive or get the **** out. Melee needs to grow, this is what most Melee players want and what D'oh is trying to do with this topic. Your bitter little comments about Brawl aren't helping your scene or your cause to get Melee back on the right track.
Brawl sucks
uh, he's only hosting a melee tourney. its nbd, not like i see anyone else doing that. but apparently its ok to bash him because he's not dedicated to melee and bothers hosting a melee tourney >.>
Melee already won lmao, but that bad game brawl just keeps coming back.
