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R.I.P. Kjell Anders "Nappy" Peterson.
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Elyssa Xey Hexen
Broken!
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You merely hold the control stick down slightly. not all the way. This is still read by the inputs as down. It saves you a couple frames from having to crouch.
Dair or even Nair marth -> UpB option. Be wary.
Dair or even Nair marth -> UpB option. Be wary.
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
dtilt without crouching is hot
culexus・wau
Purchased premium only to change name ><
pssssssssssssst susa I have oki's number
am I part of the cool kids club.
Also Snakes a really cool thing I like to buffer the no crouch dtilt is just holding down lightly and hitting down on the C-stick.
works same way for utilt too, just hold up slightly :>
it feels easier for me to buffer them this way but then again I have reallllly good control of my Control Stick [2 finger grip!] So idunno how easy this is to do with just your thumb :>
am I part of the cool kids club.
Also Snakes a really cool thing I like to buffer the no crouch dtilt is just holding down lightly and hitting down on the C-stick.
works same way for utilt too, just hold up slightly :>
it feels easier for me to buffer them this way but then again I have reallllly good control of my Control Stick [2 finger grip!] So idunno how easy this is to do with just your thumb :>
Limeee
Smash Champion
can we platform cancel out of cypher?
ZTD | TECHnology
Developing New TECHnology
D-Tilt without crouching is something every character with a D-Tilt worth using should learn. Besides crouching adds like 6 frames...that's kind of huge when you think about any situation you'd every use D-Tilt in.
<3 D-tilt its one of my personal favorite moves with Snake and I know how to use it.
<3 D-tilt its one of my personal favorite moves with Snake and I know how to use it.
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
snake dair should not be used to rack up damage. The only time is when you read the roll to the edge either from a d throw or for whatever reason they are on the ground. To much risk to do it under 40% on most characters not near the edge. Ftilt and re-chase is much safer with about the same amount of damage.
Snake's d tilt needs to be used more. It out spaces ftilt1 and those who know it's spacing you can surprise them.
Snake's d tilt needs to be used more. It out spaces ftilt1 and those who know it's spacing you can surprise them.
Technodeath
Smash Champion
Dat Snake.
Bored. :s
Bored. :s
Hey ive got a question. Alright im THINKING about switching my mains from falco and MK to Snake and G&W just because ive turned from being really aggresive to being really campy all of a sudden. Ive learned that being aggresive isnt everything because if some can predict well enough and camp well enough then im screwed because i cant do anything about it.
So i was wanting 2 characters that are EXTREMELY hard to kill. Im thinking snake and G&W are the best choices just because.. you have al seen how long ally can live and then i know yal havent seen many g&w but his bucket can really keep alive.. sometimes longer than ally's snake.
So my question is.. is there any other character that can live longer than g&w and snake or are them the top 2 survivers?
So i was wanting 2 characters that are EXTREMELY hard to kill. Im thinking snake and G&W are the best choices just because.. you have al seen how long ally can live and then i know yal havent seen many g&w but his bucket can really keep alive.. sometimes longer than ally's snake.
So my question is.. is there any other character that can live longer than g&w and snake or are them the top 2 survivers?
Nicks
Smash Journeyman
i have a question regarding the omnigay.
when the MK on your team has port priority, does it matter if the sticky is on MK or the opponent to kill them? or if the sticky is on MK will it kill him even tho he has port priority?
@ Hot Wings: when i think of survivability, snake, wario and D3 come to mind
when the MK on your team has port priority, does it matter if the sticky is on MK or the opponent to kill them? or if the sticky is on MK will it kill him even tho he has port priority?
@ Hot Wings: when i think of survivability, snake, wario and D3 come to mind
SuSa
Banned via Administration
From what I hear, Falco and MK are really good characters at being campy. But that's just what I hear.
@nicks
Make sure MK has port... er... I forget if it's 4 or 1... I think it's 4? It doesn't matter who has the sticky on them, MK just needs port priority.
@nicks
Make sure MK has port... er... I forget if it's 4 or 1... I think it's 4? It doesn't matter who has the sticky on them, MK just needs port priority.
Technodeath
Smash Champion
@ SuSa and Nicks.
I'm pretty sure that it's port 4. Since you're (Assuming you're doing the uthrow > c4 kill strat) doing the uthrow you'd get the defensive priorities. and wouldn't budge through the throw, while the person you're grabbing will fly away.
While port 1 is attacking priority. Actually, what I've said might be redundant.. A hurr hurr. Both ports probably work. 1 = Attack priority and 4 = defense priority, yeah?
I'm probably wrong, or maybe right. what I've replied with is what I think is right. Someone care to give me clarification?
I'm pretty sure that it's port 4. Since you're (Assuming you're doing the uthrow > c4 kill strat) doing the uthrow you'd get the defensive priorities. and wouldn't budge through the throw, while the person you're grabbing will fly away.
While port 1 is attacking priority. Actually, what I've said might be redundant.. A hurr hurr. Both ports probably work. 1 = Attack priority and 4 = defense priority, yeah?
I'm probably wrong, or maybe right. what I've replied with is what I think is right. Someone care to give me clarification?
Nicks
Smash Journeyman
awsum thanks SuSa and techno.
that means i dont need to worry about listening for that sticky transfer noise
that means i dont need to worry about listening for that sticky transfer noise
Toneh
Smash Lord
I always lose in RPS for the port, i practically live in port 1
Berserker.
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I know that. I just do it randomly for some reason. Bad habit
I like using it from ledge recoveries.
hotwings: meta knight and falco are better at camping than snake, you could just change your playstyle. always ask yourself while playing "am I being enough of a douche?"
also while MK is light and can theoretically die early, he also has some of the best capabilities to avoid KO attacks, he has a great spacing game and he can't be juggle or ledge trapped very well so a lot of common kill setups don't really work on MK
also while MK is light and can theoretically die early, he also has some of the best capabilities to avoid KO attacks, he has a great spacing game and he can't be juggle or ledge trapped very well so a lot of common kill setups don't really work on MK
Toneh
Smash Lord
Dedede is pretty light I wouldn't go with him
Technodeath
Smash Champion
Or Donkey Kong
Ok well none of you have said anything about G&W lol. Ive been paying attention to my playstyle and im actually a mix of aggresion and campy. I just need characters that can survive a long time. I have mained falco for awhile now but.. how about me going to MK and Snake? I do doubles just as much as singles and there both good at both. Snake survives the longest and MK is well... mk. Also i can play defensive with snake and aggresive with MK.
Im really good with G&W but when i got to thinking about it... there isnt a lot of learning room with him, you cant really do anything that great with G&W like you can with snake and MK. Falco is really good and is a mix of aggresion and defensive but i just like the feel of snake and mk better than i do with falco.
So i think im going to go with mk and snake.. what do yal think about my decision?
Oh and dont think im just going to them because there the top 2 characters because i would pick ganondorf if he fit my playstyle, its just mk and snake just fit me the most i guess.
Im really good with G&W but when i got to thinking about it... there isnt a lot of learning room with him, you cant really do anything that great with G&W like you can with snake and MK. Falco is really good and is a mix of aggresion and defensive but i just like the feel of snake and mk better than i do with falco.
So i think im going to go with mk and snake.. what do yal think about my decision?
Oh and dont think im just going to them because there the top 2 characters because i would pick ganondorf if he fit my playstyle, its just mk and snake just fit me the most i guess.
SuSa
Banned via Administration
200,000 views! Also best quote ever:
a mix of camping and aggro is probably the best way to play this game these days, camp until you see the opening to go in and stay there while you can, then get back out rinse wash repeat
dropping mk for GnW is a horrible decision and you'll regret it and snake is bad
falco is much better than snake and camps harder
dropping mk for GnW is a horrible decision and you'll regret it and snake is bad
falco is much better than snake and camps harder
dunno if I'd say falco is *much* better than snake, but better and DEFINITELY has a harder camp game, getting in on snake is ****ing easy compared to falco
agreed with everything else, that video I linked to is an example of camping maybe a little TOO hard even, you want to space yourself to safety whenever your opponent is on solid ground but stay on them and **** them up as much as possible when you have the opportunities
agreed with everything else, that video I linked to is an example of camping maybe a little TOO hard even, you want to space yourself to safety whenever your opponent is on solid ground but stay on them and **** them up as much as possible when you have the opportunities
the thing is its just more effective to almost use your camping to close in and pressure instead of staying away as much as possible, at least I feel thats the more effective way to play snake, falco too because its not good to get cornered compared to being the one to corner and still stay away
i think u guys will be pretty happy about a discovery i heared from Blub today (germanys best falco)
he told me that it is possible to platform cancle with snakes UAIR
i just tired it and it works!! platform cancle without shielddrop/grenadethrow/dair lag (:
the timing seems pretty tight though
but that has to be a matter of practice (i hope ^^)
* after a little practice i can do it pretty consistently
yay.
he told me that it is possible to platform cancle with snakes UAIR
i just tired it and it works!! platform cancle without shielddrop/grenadethrow/dair lag (:
the timing seems pretty tight though
but that has to be a matter of practice (i hope ^^)
* after a little practice i can do it pretty consistently
yay.
God this is so ******* hard lol. Look at all these characters i really would want to main and bring to tournaments.
MK
Snake
Diddy kong
Falco
Wario
Marth
Ice climbers
Olimar
DDD
Pikachu
ZSS
Lucario
Toon link
Peach
Wolf
G&W
Fox
DK
Shiek
PT
Ike
Ness
Link
Jiggz
See there is only like maybe 4 character that i didnt pick lol. I would say me pick a main or 2 just incase but... if im going to use random then im useing random all the way.
Also i have a question for all of you, how do i get to be ZSS if i choose random? Can i hold down R while going to random and if it picks samus then it will pick ZSS instead of samus or will i never get to be ZSS?
MK
Snake
Diddy kong
Falco
Wario
Marth
Ice climbers
Olimar
DDD
Pikachu
ZSS
Lucario
Toon link
Peach
Wolf
G&W
Fox
DK
Shiek
PT
Ike
Ness
Link
Jiggz
See there is only like maybe 4 character that i didnt pick lol. I would say me pick a main or 2 just incase but... if im going to use random then im useing random all the way.
Also i have a question for all of you, how do i get to be ZSS if i choose random? Can i hold down R while going to random and if it picks samus then it will pick ZSS instead of samus or will i never get to be ZSS?
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
ally isn't even on the poll to win MLG anymore
Technodeath
Smash Champion
∫unk
Smash Master
seibrik vs ally was funny
is that recorded? or anything nappy is talking about? I haven't watched many recent brawl videos, idk, I laughed at him vs M2K at apex but that's because meta knight timing people out is always funny to me(or time outs in general, brawl is such a bad game lol)
idk I feel like ally generally just fights the player in stead of the character, if the person isn't very good he does dumb **** but he saves his best tricks for the better players, he just plays smarter to match their level
I've felt for a long time that that's more or less how you have to play snake, he doesn't have a reliable moveset, you just try to out think your opponent and hope the fact that they're getting a ton of auto-damage on you is balanced out by your weight and power
∫unk
Smash Master
yeah that's why snake is fun though he favors reads and buffering
ally vs seibrik would pretty much support everything you've said the past 2 pages etecoon
ally vs seibrik would pretty much support everything you've said the past 2 pages etecoon
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
Prrrrrrrrrretty much
I theorized that it might be because it was with SBR's ruleset (and therefore, stagelist) was the determining ruleset for the tier list, which iirc Diddy and Falco are a teensy bit more fragile in stage pick than snake is. Other than that, I'm quite sure that he'd drop lol.
