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Question of the Day: [4/3/09]
- Thread starter Rosedemon
- Start date
LOL
10ch
10ch
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
Opportunist
-2000
rudeezy
Smash Journeyman
no R 4 U
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Egoclapper
Smash Apprentice
i don't get any of the last couple of posts
Lovage
Smash Hero
they're the bonuses you get in melee
Egoclapper
Smash Apprentice
what about the will you clap for my ego thing
besides the extremely obvious
or am i overthinking it
besides the extremely obvious
or am i overthinking it
Lovage
Smash Hero
the latter, fatter
RelaxImAProfessional
Smash Lord
poser poser
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
im hilarious, rudeezy kind of ruined it
i also saved a lot of face
fyi
i also saved a lot of face
fyi
embracethe12
Smash Lord
The Greater Leon
Smash Hero
alan i forgot to say hi to you at mango juice :/
DanteFox
Smash Champion
One of them would definitely have to be fox, the other could either be another fox or jiggs or maybe sheik.
LooksLikePit
Smash Ace
focks and flaco
Fox and Peach no doubt.
PC Chris+Cort, M2K+Vidjo, both are Fox and Peach and ****!
PC Chris+Cort, M2K+Vidjo, both are Fox and Peach and ****!
Rosedemon
Smash Champion
- Joined
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Grunt
Smash Master
Fox and Peachy.
otherwise, 2 foxes.
otherwise, 2 foxes.
AzN_Lep
Smash Champion
Fox + Mango
pockyD
Smash Legend
fox / peach
RelaxImAProfessional
Smash Lord
fox peach or fox jiggs
Lovage
Smash Hero
hmm i dont think i ever teamed with a good shiek before
jiggs + fox
Egoclapper
Smash Apprentice
fox peach obv
killer tofu
Smash Lord
Jigglypuff and Fox.
WhatIsFear
Smash Ace
- Joined
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- 509
double ganon
Egoclapper
Smash Apprentice
questions that just involve black and white answers with no explanation = bad questions to ask
San Diego Reaper
Smash Journeyman
fox jiggs
fox's speed and killing power
jiggs>peach, cuz shes got better recovery, better potential saves, holds stocks just as well if not better than peach, and decent knock back from her arials.
fox's speed and killing power
jiggs>peach, cuz shes got better recovery, better potential saves, holds stocks just as well if not better than peach, and decent knock back from her arials.
DanteFox
Smash Champion
^ exactly. that plus all the potential for rests.
The nubs say their piece lol
puff needs a lot of time to do her damage. In the meantime that puts a lot of pressure on the fox not to get ****ed up. Peach racks up damage very quickly and can hold her own if need be. Other characters need to space properly against her, but her high priority makes it easy for her to enter the fray.
in teams puff and peach have equal recovery. Neither can be edgeguarded.
Puff also can't kill outside of fsmash and rest, and at higher percents neither of those is going to happen. Peach has nair.
Another thing is peach can disrupt a team much more easily than puff. one dash attack can mess them up, with puff there isn't an easy option like that. it takes puff awhile to get over and help her partner.
This is what usually happens:
example:
fox1 / puff vs fox2 / peach
they are positioned like this on the stage:
puff --- fox1 - fox2 --- peach
fox 1 upthrows fox2
peach runs in and dsmashes twice, racking up ~40%
example 2, same position
fox2 upthrows fox1
puff runs over to space a fair
OR
Puff tries to run over and grab
both take a lot of time, and do significantly less damage
and no, the grab doesn't mean a rest, if the fox is any good he'll see the puff coming to interrupt and DI it well ahead of time
not to mention the peach could follow up the first dsmash with a dash attack (because most likely it won't be teched) to grab or an aerial. but 2 dsmashes takes the least amount of skill so i put that up there.
If the rests come then the team looks amazing, but a really good opposing team will keep that to a minimum. Plus rest is weaker when your teammate is grabbing them, they have to be at least 40%, and anything over 90% renders rest useless as an Fsmash would be about as efficient but with less risk.
puff needs a lot of time to do her damage. In the meantime that puts a lot of pressure on the fox not to get ****ed up. Peach racks up damage very quickly and can hold her own if need be. Other characters need to space properly against her, but her high priority makes it easy for her to enter the fray.
in teams puff and peach have equal recovery. Neither can be edgeguarded.
Puff also can't kill outside of fsmash and rest, and at higher percents neither of those is going to happen. Peach has nair.
Another thing is peach can disrupt a team much more easily than puff. one dash attack can mess them up, with puff there isn't an easy option like that. it takes puff awhile to get over and help her partner.
This is what usually happens:
example:
fox1 / puff vs fox2 / peach
they are positioned like this on the stage:
puff --- fox1 - fox2 --- peach
fox 1 upthrows fox2
peach runs in and dsmashes twice, racking up ~40%
example 2, same position
fox2 upthrows fox1
puff runs over to space a fair
OR
Puff tries to run over and grab
both take a lot of time, and do significantly less damage
and no, the grab doesn't mean a rest, if the fox is any good he'll see the puff coming to interrupt and DI it well ahead of time
not to mention the peach could follow up the first dsmash with a dash attack (because most likely it won't be teched) to grab or an aerial. but 2 dsmashes takes the least amount of skill so i put that up there.
If the rests come then the team looks amazing, but a really good opposing team will keep that to a minimum. Plus rest is weaker when your teammate is grabbing them, they have to be at least 40%, and anything over 90% renders rest useless as an Fsmash would be about as efficient but with less risk.
pockyD
Smash Legend
resting a grabbed opponent isn't really "risky", unless you're really fearing that 2% that it takes to wake you up
and who's dying from an fsmash at 90%? (west coast DI?)
i still think peach/fox works better because of the damage-racking (like you said), plus the fact that peach controls the space she's actually in a lot better than jiggs (who relies on controlling the space adjacent) and how peach lives much better than jiggly on most stages
and who's dying from an fsmash at 90%? (west coast DI?)
i still think peach/fox works better because of the damage-racking (like you said), plus the fact that peach controls the space she's actually in a lot better than jiggs (who relies on controlling the space adjacent) and how peach lives much better than jiggly on most stages
Lovage
Smash Hero
yawwwn, need a new question
DanteFox
Smash Champion
Jiggs can gimp certain characters very well though, so that gives her another option.
pockyD
Smash Legend
no it doesn't
if they're at like 80 and over, you're not carrying them off the stage for sure (which is what i assume you're referring to); and if it's just getting out there and landing a single hit you're talking about, peach does it just as well
low percent gimps are nice and is certainly something jiggs does better than peach, but it doesn't apply to the argument of KO power
if they're at like 80 and over, you're not carrying them off the stage for sure (which is what i assume you're referring to); and if it's just getting out there and landing a single hit you're talking about, peach does it just as well
low percent gimps are nice and is certainly something jiggs does better than peach, but it doesn't apply to the argument of KO power
DanteFox
Smash Champion
gimps = kills