Project M Social Thread

[leelue]

Grim, I don't think that's correct. I could've sworn that I read a thread about brawl port priority that tried to justify the explosion "immunity" (since the benefactor is the one with the latest port, it was perceived as a way to balance the advantage p1 gets)

They may have been wrong, who knows.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I just tested by doing this:

1. Two Dededes facing each other.
2. Pause game.
3. Hold down 'Z' on both controllers.
4. Unpause.

It seemed to be random, unless this method is imperfect?

 

[MonkUnit]

did you do it in frame by frame mode to make sure they grab on the same frame? no, you didnt. you could possibly be off by a few frames that way

 

[Grim Tuesday]

How could I be off by a few frames if they were both buffered out of un-pause? Pretty sure buffering doesn't allow for timing mistakes.

I have frame perfect button-pressing any way, I never screw up the Name Entry glitch in Melee

 

[leelue]

Monk, the method he's using seems solid. Unless there is some hidden variable I don't see, I gotta give it to grim.

 

[MonkUnit]

meh

not like it really matters

EDIT: holy **** its late. why am i still up. nighty night

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Goodnight Monky.

 

[leelue]

it doesn't matter, really. either way I hope grim is right.

I work overnights, and it is nearing 5 am here in ny. I'm used to this time o night. lonely tho. only get to talk to Aussies

 

[Grim Tuesday]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Aussies > Everyone else.

/10racisms

 

[leelue]

lol omg that punch line was classy
just so long as we can agree on a mutual, undeserved frowning upon for Canadians.

I don't know nearly as much as I'd like to about Australia, except I know aboriginal people don't have words for left and right.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Best Melee player in my state comes from Canadia, so I can't agree to that unless I want him to stop tutoring me

All you need to know about Australia can be found here.

 

[leelue]

apparently your culture is the worst of Irish, British and American. I assume this means that you are red headed (bad), have either a girly or incomprehensible accent (worse), and play Mario kart on battle mode(unacceptable).

 

[Grim Tuesday]

But we also have lots of beaches, beer and babes.

It's worth it imo.

 

[Onomanic]

Canadia

C:

I giggled just a bit.

 

[Strong Badam]

But we also have lots of beaches, beer and babes.

It's worth it imo.

yeah but your babes are kangaroos

 

[JCaesar]

It's like teching throws in other fighting games, not really a new concept, and it would be pretty much the same as clanking ground moves.
That's what I understood from what you guys said, but is it worth it?
Port priority has never seemed like a big issue to me, was it in vbrawl?

Port priority is a pretty big issue, yeah. It affects a lot of things, but the things that really stand out to me as detrimental to competitive play are suicide moves and who takes the knockback when both players are hit during a grab. The latter only really happens in 1v1s when there is a Snake involved (or the occasional stage hazard), but in teams it can happen a lot.

 

[ValTroX]

yeah the explosives during grabs are a big issue IMHO

 

[Vigilante]

I wonder if this plays in Ganoncide

 

[JCaesar]

I believe it does. I don't know the exact details though.

 

[Shawn101589]

Glad to see port priority is being looked at :D

 

[Zef]

zef just definitely applied

 

[Vigilante]

And I've responded to your application in the most serious of manners.



Idea just like that. Do you guys feel that reducing the endlag of puting a mine in place (E.g. stick on another character) could be a good thing for Snake? The only reason I'm saying this is that it might make the move less punishable. I don't mean to say that Snake is weak, but I think that this little add-on can add some technical aspects to the character. I'm thinking of a solid wavedash-stick-mine game.

Oh, and the Project M smashmods forum is getting more activity, join in the fun.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

The endlag was ALREADY reduced comparing to Brawl.

Being able to crawl over them and put them away(terminate it without damage) would help, though I can't think that would be feasible to code.

The issue is that you can't rely on the mine in all matchups. Would you EVER rely on the mine for KOs and such against Sheik or a Fox that can Waveshine?

 

[JCaesar]

I believe he was referring to the C4, not the mine.

I think the endlag is fine how it is now. It's punishable, yes, but the rewards for sticking someone are immense. You can get guaranteed vertical KOs at about half the % that you could otherwise.

 

[Spoon~]

Whoever said lucas blows forever ago...yeah right. Lucas is sick haha, I've been toying around with him. Ill post some vids up later on youtube.

 

[Evilagram]

Being able to crawl over them and put them away(terminate it without damage) would help, though I can't think that would be feasible to code.

If you get your timing right, you can run right up to them and perfect shield.

If you drop down towards it from the air and dodge downwards, you'll trigger it in the middle of your invincibility frames. It'll explode, you'll take no damage. And your opponent will be wondering how the **** you did that.

Although it does lose the reference to claymores in the games. At least it's practical for fighting as/against snake.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

What exactly causes the C4 to fall off someone?

 

[JCaesar]

Who cares? It doesn't in Project M.

 

[Zef]

I think if you're +200% it falls off

 

[MonkUnit]

Which is fixed in the patch.

 

[iLink]

I think if you're +200% it falls off

It can definitely fall off at any percent if you are hit, except in p:m now apparently.

 

[Sterowent]

that's the best news for snake i've heard in awhile. imagine the tension of a final match in a set, and he stickies. the suspense would be killer---

HHHNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG

 

[standardtoaster]

It still does in the demo, however, it has been fixed in the patch. The C4 won't fall off unless they're higher than like 700%.

 

[Spoon~]

Which is fixed in the patch.

everything is fixed in the patch lol, we just dont have it.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

That's a great help.

I wish it was safe to sticky from Uthrow, but this is nice.

Still needs a revamped forward B. At the very least please make the missile transcend priority and go through everything for the sake of it's slowness.

Or a new one entirely.

 

[GP&B]

Either make the missile not lose speed when turning, reduce the endlag after the missile explodes or is dropped in control, make it not get deflected, or just do a new one altogether.

 

[MonkUnit]

uthrow sticky doesnt work on spacies?

 

[Spoon~]

Either make the missile not lose speed when turning, reduce the endlag after the missile explodes or is dropped in control, make it not get deflected, or just do a new one altogether.

Agree'd, missile sucks brawls.

 

[Mr.Pickle]

So how many playtesters you guys going for anyway?

 

[EpixAura]

LMAO. Just saw standardtoaster's avater. Happy, happy, happy, curesento!
Anyway, I think sideB turning without loss of speed would be a good idea.