Project M Social Thread

[Xebenkeck]

lol jump canceling nikitas would be ridiculous, missles would be spamed worse than samus'

 

[ClinkStryphart]

The only bad thing about it currently is besides the slow down on it when turning but besides that the other downfall is if it gets reflected by someone hence theres quite a few snake remains in that position a little too long. You can already cancel the Nikta by using the shield button but that also makes it fall.

overall I say just speed up the move and get rid of that end lag if it gets reflected if possible.

 

[necko kat]

lol jump canceling nikitas would be ridiculous, missles would be spamed worse than samus'

You failed to notice the "when they explode part." If they miss, free punish cause of endlag. Also, they aren't that hard to perfect sheild....

Edit:

if it gets reflected by someone hence theres quite a few snake remains in that position a little too long. You can already cancel the Nikta by using the shield button but that also makes it fall..

You're doing it wrong if it gets reflected

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

It should just explode on contact instead of being able to get swatted away.
Also, it needs to be faster.

I think Mortar is better than Nikita anyway.

 

[necko kat]

I think Mortar is better than Nikita anyway.

10x more love

On a side note, Nikita being conable makes it better for edgegaurding when combined with Mortar

 

[Zef]

wavedash out of startup?

 

[FireBall Stars]

copypaste word for word.

Fireball Stars, your Sonic impressed the hell out of me. I'm taking notes.

Even more exited to head down to Brazil during the next World Cup. Training sessions?

Thank you TH, but, I am pretty sure we'll be about a half country or more away during the world cup, so... maybe not lol

Thanks everyone <3

 

[necko kat]

wavedash out of startup?

If that happens, I'm expecting this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND8B-hiNIZ4&feature=related

 

[Beorn4200]

Thank you TH, but, I am pretty sure we'll be about a half country or more away during the world cup, so... maybe not lol

Thanks everyone <3

Videos? I'd like to see a good sonic.

 

[shanus]

Box OO Nikita IMO.

 

[SothE700k]

Box OO Nikita IMO.

For those who don't know the first thing about coding: Translation please?

 

[shanus]

haha, I was jokingly suggesting you can do his Box Taunt directly out of Nikita - The Nikita Box Cancel

 

[necko kat]

haha, I was jokingly suggesting you can do his Box Taunt directly out of Nikita - The Nikita Box Cancel

Great, I need to cleen my keyboard now....

 

[Vigilante]

NIkita box cancel? XD.

Just saying, smash-related ATs IRL saved me from severe head trauma. Who said video games couldn't be useful?

 

[necko kat]

Just saying, smash-related ATs IRL saved me from severe head trauma. Who said video games couldn't be useful?

like SDIing out of car vs truck?

 

[Vigilante]

like SDIing out of car vs truck?

Nah tech-rolling in a fosset to avoid head damage. And DIing away from metal spikes. And yes, I was on foot and not drunk.

 

[necko kat]

Nah tech-rolling in a fosset to avoid head damage. And DIing away from metal spikes. And yes, I was on foot and not drunk.

FFFFFFFFFFF, all I can do is superslide to the store, wait that OoT tech

 

[Archangel]

Snake's box should have invincibility frames!

 

[necko kat]

Snake's box should have invincibility frames!

Did someone say METAKNIGHT?

Anyway, looking back at a Samus combo video, what plans are for Samus?

 

[MonkUnit]

Samus currently has all melee hitboxes ported but B+ fair and usmash stats so that they link better. Missile and bomb hitboxes are not ported(yet).

If you've seen the streams; bomb jumping, double jump(if you interrupt the DJ with an aerial, it goes the full correct height), up tilt animation doesn't match hitboxes, and other miniscule animation edits are still things that need to be fixed.

Oh, and for those wondering, yes, samus can SWD just like in melee. Same frame window as well.

 

[necko kat]

So, the double jump thing is too much of a buff? Or just plain annoying?

 

[standardtoaster]

Correction, all hitboxes except for bomb and missiles match melee exactly. The double jump and bombs are currently messed up because of the landing detection code. Brawl uses a lot of different methods to check for landing and such in many different places.

 

[MonkUnit]

So, the double jump thing is too much of a buff? Or just plain annoying?

The way the double jump currently works is:
If you normal double jump, you go about 1/5 the actual melee double jump height.
If you do a double jump and then immediately do an aerial, you will go the actual melee double jump height.

This will be fixed eventually.

 

[necko kat]

Correction, all hitboxes except for bomb and missiles match melee exactly. The double jump and bombs are currently messed up because of the landing detection code. Brawl uses a lot of different methods to check for landing and such in many different places.

I love siblings!

The way the double jump currently works is:
If you normal double jump, you go about 1/5 the actual melee double jump height.
If you do a double jump and then immediately do an aerial, you will go the actual melee double jump height.

This will be fixed eventually.

Ok, makes sense. Zair tooo good!

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Does the air jump multiplier influence that???

Peach's Sakurajima daikons has an odd variable that I haven't seen before.

It's La-bit[12].

There are also some unknown commands.

 

[standardtoaster]

The air jump multiplier is not the cause of it. As I stated, it's the landing detection codes.

 

[Ulevo]

If you guys ever want to filter out any redundant discussion, just put up a note that says that for every correction a PMBR member needs to make to a general poster, the Project M release will be held back a day.

 

[necko kat]

Does Snake's box taunt go through attacks yet? And can I have a .gif of Fux SHDL?

If you guys ever want to filter out any redundant discussion, just put up a note that says that for every correction a PMBR member needs to make to a general poster, the Project M release will be held back a day.

Won't that mean the Wii2 will have a new Smash game before us?

 

[Ulevo]

Sakurai is not allowed to make any more Smash games. He's lost his privilege.

 

[GPDP]

Ok, let's say you guys go through all the blogposts you plan to make (and then some, adding a few and adjusting for inevitable discoveries in between). Now, let's say you run out of discoveries to cover, and then some time passes without anything significant coming up. Would you consider releasing the patch then? How long would you be willing to wait between the last "covered" discovery and release?

 

[shanus]

Ok, let's say you guys go through all the blogposts you plan to make (and then some, adding a few and adjusting for inevitable discoveries in between). Now, let's say you run out of discoveries to cover, and then some time passes without anything significant coming up. Would you consider releasing the patch then? How long would you be willing to wait between the last "covered" discovery and release?

Hard to say. I'll go with the expected line "we'll release it when its done."

 

[necko kat]

Sakurai is not allowed to make any more Smash games. He's lost his privilege.

He lost his privledge, when he made MK. Now CAPCOM will be making the Smash games!

Hard to say. I'll go with the expected line "we'll release it when its done."

At least we have melee.

 

[ManEg]

He lost his privledge, when he made MK. Now CAPCOM will be making the Smash games!

MvC = Smash64
MvC2 = Melee
MvC3 = Brawl

Hmm, no a good idea...

 

[GPDP]

Hard to say. I'll go with the expected line "we'll release it when its done."

Saying "when it's done" implies you have certain goals in mind for the patch, though. It says to me there's an established minimum standard for what the patch must contain before it is considered ready for release. Obviously, if that is the case, no one outside the PMBR knows what that standard is, what discoveries you're waiting on, or what "discovered" mechanics need tuning up before they are considered ready.

Unless, of course, none of that is the case, which would then mean the patch release depends on one day looking at your progress and arbitrarily saying "mmmmmmk I think we're good for now."

Not trying to pressure you guys or anything. I just want to know more or less the mindset of the PMBR on what "done" means.

 

[necko kat]

MvC = Smash64
MvC2 = Melee
MvC3 = Brawl

Hmm, no a good idea...

You mad at dat Phoenix

 

[shanus]

Saying "when it's done" implies you have certain goals in mind for the patch, though. It says to me there's an established minimum standard for what the patch must contain before it is considered ready for release. Obviously, if that is the case, no one outside the PMBR knows what that standard is, what discoveries you're waiting on, or what "discovered" mechanics need tuning up before they are considered ready.

Unless, of course, none of that is the case, which would then mean the patch release depends on one day looking at your progress and arbitrarily saying "mmmmmmk I think we're good for now."

Not trying to pressure you guys or anything. I just want to know more or less the mindset of the PMBR on what "done" means.

We have goals in mind, yes. However, these goals do not come at the tradeoff of time. For example, landing detection has a bunch of subtle bugs in gameplay, like certain moves will land two times over. Things like this obviously need to be fixed.

We aren't going to rush this, we have made a lot of progress, but also have a lot of tidying up to do. In an ideal world we would have the engine entirely done. How feasible that is though, is a different story.

 

[ManEg]

You mad at dat Phoenix

lol nah, I'm mad at dat easy mode. The game's fun though.

 

[GPDP]

We have goals in mind, yes. However, these goals do not come at the tradeoff of time. For example, landing detection has a bunch of subtle bugs in gameplay, like certain moves will land two times over. Things like this obviously need to be fixed.

We aren't going to rush this, we have made a lot of progress, but also have a lot of tidying up to do. In an ideal world we would have the engine entirely done. How feasible that is though, is a different story.

As you should. Like I said, I am in no way trying to rush you.

What I was trying to get across was, once all the currently-implemented mechanics are tuned up and bug-free, all the discoveries made are then revealed through blogposts, and no new discoveries are made in the mean time, would you be willing to release then, or wait a little more time in case something desirable, such as tethers (that is, of course, assuming you haven't already fixed them and haven't told us yet), comes up?

 

[necko kat]

lol nah, I'm mad at dat easy mode. The game's fun though.

lol Deadpool too good!

Anyway, did mang0 play this yet?

 

[shanus]

As you should. Like I said, I am in no way trying to rush you.

What I was trying to get across was, once all the currently-implemented mechanics are tuned up and bug-free, all the discoveries made are then revealed through blogposts, and no new discoveries are made in the mean time, would you be willing to release then, or wait a little more time in case something desirable, such as tethers (that is, of course, assuming you haven't already fixed them and haven't told us yet), comes up?

Kind of case by case basis there. If something seems feasible, I would likely wait. However, if it seems hopeless, wouldn't make sense then. Sorry the answer isn't really an answer, but it's impossible to say really.