Project M Social Thread

[jalued]

I will take the opportunity to ask the developers about their opinion on Chain-Grab effectiveness.

What do you guys think about inescapable Chain-Grabs that deal a high amount of damage?

Fox example, I don't see anything wrong with being able to Chain-Grab a character from 10% to 50 or 60%, but CGs that deliver higher damage than that make me feel uneasy. Obviously, we could point out to how hard it is to execute the CG, but where the dev-team believes to be the balanced amount?

Personally, I wouldn't like to see CGs that deliver more than 50% Damage, unless there are trustful methods of escape.

you have the same opinion concerning chaingrabs that work on more than 50% of the cast (thinking sheik here)?

 

[BinAly]

you have the same opinion concerning chaingrabs that work on more than 50% of the cast (thinking sheik here)?

Yes, basically. However, let me put something out of the way.

I don't mind CGs that have Mind-Games involved. If there are trustful methods of escape, I don't think they hurt the Gameplay Experience. It's like Tech-Chasing. There is a lot of prediction and presence of mind involved.

My real problem lies on Chain-Grabs that, once learned, rely only on the Grabber's skill, and not the Grabbed's. In Melee there where situations where, once grabbed, you could drop your controller and watch your character receive 60% to 80%. If the Grabber didn't miss, you could do nothing.

 

[Revven]

There is always a chance the person chain grabbing can mess up. There is no reason to give up on DI'ing at any point against Marth's Uthrow or Sheik's Dthrow. If the person chain grabbing has excellent reading, there's no reason to punish them for it. The only character in Melee in which you can say that you could drop your controller once grabbed is ICs and even their wobbling can easily have a mishap occur where the player messed up performing the wobble.

All it means is that if you can't make the chaingrabber mess up by DI'ing in different ways then my advice to you is: don't get grabbed. It's definitely not to the same extreme as vs ICs in vBrawl but if you really don't want to get chaingrabbed then play safer.

 

[Sneak8288]

yea the cg's even if it does work to higher %s aren't guaranteed because of the ability to DI and mindgame the grabber or like falco400 said don't get grabbed or put yourself in situations where you will.

 

[Gust14]

The slogan for PM should be PM: 100% FREE of Tripping, and that alone would atract lot of people

 

[JCaesar]

What smk and Sneak said. Marth's and Sheik's Melee CGs really aren't that bad compared to DDD and IC bull**** in Brawl. At least you are always still in control of your character and have influence on the outcome.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

That and the radical difference in shield stun that changes the number of options available.

 

[nawgui]

What has Dantarion been working on lately?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Real Life IIRC.

Also, more costume slots.

And now I'm worried about the file size limit of common5.pac.

 

[Ecks]

Well stages and characters are separate and both have their own file size so It's not that big a deal. (unless you go overboard of course)

 

[FireBall Stars]

great, today's blogpost was about grabbing people from behind. now I don't have to keep that in secret anymore

herp derp

 

[Slashy]

The slogan for PM should be PM: 100% FREE of Tripping, and that alone would atract lot of people

And be potentially misleading because I don't believe that tripping is being completely removed.

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

And be potentially misleading because I don't believe that tripping is being completely removed.

By that do you mean the PMBR will intentionally leave tripping in the game, or that tripping can still happen even after this most recent blogpost? Because I believe that you're wrong either way.

 

[MonkUnit]

You can only trip with the trip flag now. Such as Diddy's bananas.

 

[shanus]

And be potentially misleading because I don't believe that tripping is being completely removed.

aside from diddy its a true statement

 

[NeoZ]

aside from diddy its a true statement

Does getting hit in the face with a banana trip you?
Or do only the ones lying on the floor trip?

 

[MonkUnit]

Still works like brawl bananas. Hit and on floor cause tripping.

 

[Ecks]

Lucas can still trip whenever he wants to.

Edit: Did Vigilante ever post the recording of his show last nigh? I missed it.

 

[Utterrandomness]

Lucas is bottom tier cause he trips on demand

 

[NeoZ]

Lucas is bottom tier cause he trips on demand

I don't get it.

 

[hotdogturtle]

Oh hey, backwards grabbing =)

Now we can do stuff like this again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClTiHce36mg

 

[UltiMario]

Guys these Lucas jokes are really old like really I was making these in november

 

[ManEg]

Loving blogpost #5, hated that tripping.

Oh, and happy Easter guys, the REAL one.
(How we ended up celebrating a bunny with a basket full of chocolate eggs is beyond me...like with Christmas)

 

[Crooked Crow]

I don't get it.

Taunting. One of his animations.

 

[jahkzheng]

You can only trip with the trip flag now. Such as Diddy's bananas.

So tripping has been controlled... But do you guys plan on giving any other move guaranteed tripping like Diddy's Bananas, or is Diddy going to be the only character that can directly trip his opponent? Can't think of anything atm, but maybe you guys will modify a character's moveset with something that could also use this unique effect.

 

[UltiMario]

They're only going to give it to Diddy's Nanners.

 

[NeoZ]

Loving blogpost #5, hated that tripping.

Oh, and happy Easter guys, the REAL one.
(How we ended up celebrating a bunny with a basket full of chocolate eggs is beyond me...like with Christmas)

The eggs are older than Christianity, early Christians adopted them due to their symbolism, they represented rebirth.

Christmas too, a lot of how it is currently celebrated comes from older traditions, see Yule, it was completely absorbed by Christmas as Christianity became more prevalent.

 

[MonkUnit]

Another religion discussion in the Project M thread? Ffffuuuuu

Also, how many people were there for Vigilante's podcast? Did people like it?

 

[Seikishidan Soru]

Oh, and happy Easter guys, the REAL one.)

real < TASTY.

Just imagine if Snake said "real" during his taunt. That would be lame as hell. We don't want that.

 

[Zef]

i was there for about 30 mins
i liked it

 

[NeoZ]

Another religion discussion in the Project M thread? Ffffuuuuu

Also, how many people were there for Vigilante's podcast? Did people like it?

Not really discussing, just clarifying that easter/christmas/other holidays have parts that don't seem to be related to the holiday itself, because those parts usually come from a different religion or culture.

 

[GHNeko]

>talking religion
>P:M thread

god damn it ill infract you all myself and im not even a ****ing moderator

get back on topic

 

[nawgui]

>talking religion
>P:M thread

god damn it ill infract you all myself and im not even a ****ing moderator

get back on topic

agreed, I'm still a little confused on how Pit's Uair works, can anyone elaborate by chance?

 

[Pyrax]

I could've sworn I read something about Luigi being the only who can trip to add to his "clumsiness" but be able to attack out of it.

 

[Spoon~]

agreed, I'm still a little confused on how Pit's Uair works, can anyone elaborate by chance?

Its like shuttle loop from what I've seen

 

[Slashy]

I could've sworn I read something about Luigi being the only who can trip to add to his "clumsiness" but be able to attack out of it.

That's from Brawl Minus, at least the older sets. If you want to see far more canon, or wacky movesets go there.

 

[MonkUnit]

you hold B from uair to go into a glide

you can interrupt the glide with an aerial

 

[Cubelarooso]

(How we ended up celebrating a bunny with a basket full of chocolate eggs is beyond me...like with Christmas)

It's pretty simple, really.

They're only going to give it to Diddy's Nanners.

I believe an uncharged Wario Waft also tripped in vBrawl, was that changed?

Also, how many people were there for Vigilante's podcast? Did people like it?

Didn't catch the original run, but I did listen to it saved. The content was alright, but Vigilante's "Umm"s were distracting, and his guests were difficult to hear.

 

[GHNeko]

I wanna be on a podcast. ;_;

i think im a funny guy

 

[NeoZ]

I believe an uncharged Wario Waft also tripped in vBrawl, was that changed?

I remember seeing Wario trip someone on a stream and when I asked what did it, everyone said stuff like "weakest waft does that".
So either something randomly tripped and people assumed it was that, or that was in at some point.