Project M Social Thread

[GP&B]

Brawl's loading time is the issue with the transformation time.

 

[Revven]

We can't fix transformation time, it is based on loading. We made it consistent by slowing the startup and making the ending instant so you can act out of it.

 

[trojanpooh]

Gotcha. I guess I just like it better when the long part was when you were safe (of course the melee one was even better). I can't say I'm happy with the change, but I understand the logic and respect your decisions. Honestly I only use Sheik anyways.

 

[Dark Sonic]

2) Some of the new stages musics aren't right. I would look into picking some of the weaker tracks (25m for example) and replacing them with Dream Land 64, Fourside (if its not already in. I can't remember), Metal Mario 64, etc.!

Music is optional <_<.

 

[JCaesar]

Guys, don't know if this has been posted already, but I just discovered that LUCAS CAN USE SPECIAL MOVES AFTER ANY AIR DODGE ANGLED DOWNWARDS BEFORE GOING TO SPECIAL FALL ANIMATION.

You can do nifty tricks with this, try it.

That is a legit bug we need to fix immediately. Thanks for finding it!

 

[trojanpooh]

Music is optional <_<.

That is a legit point, but on the flipside I would argue that if you are making retro stages it would make sense to go all the way and include the music by default. Just a minor quarrel, but no biggie if people disagree.

 

[Brian_Link]

We can't fix transformation time, it is based on loading. We made it consistent by slowing the startup and making the ending instant so you can act out of it.

I wish that there was some more invincibility. I can understand not being invincible the first 5-10 frames, but after that very short instance you should be invincible. I've been punished hard for transforming, and I really wanted to try incorporating more down-B into my Zelda/Shiek matches.

 

[Spelt]

I'm spamming that glitch until someone answers my question about whether or not you are planning on implementing lucas' rising dj aerials trick with tap jump and not only jump buttons.

 

[MK26]

We can't fix transformation time, it is based on loading. We made it consistent by slowing the startup and making the ending instant so you can act out of it.

um, yes you can...add the fitcharacter_xx.pac (i think, might be different ones) files to the sd card and it greatly increases (and mostly standardizes) load times...much better than making down-b unpunishable imo

ask the bbrawl guys what they did

 

[Revven]

um, yes you can...add the fitcharacter_xx.pac (i think, might be different ones) files to the sd card and it greatly increases (and mostly standardizes) load times...much better than making down-b unpunishable imo

ask the bbrawl guys what they did

That doesn't completely fix the issue......... the loading time will still be long.

 

[trojanpooh]

You can still give her some invincibility frames mid way through the animation. As it is right now its not even worth connecting them as characters. It takes so long that you may as well scrap the BV attack and replace it with a brand new attack because transforming is barely possible.

 

[Ulevo]

Guys, don't know if this has been posted already, but I just discovered that LUCAS CAN USE SPECIAL MOVES AFTER ANY AIR DODGE ANGLED DOWNWARDS BEFORE GOING TO SPECIAL FALL ANIMATION.

You can do nifty tricks with this, try it.

We've already found our first Lucas advanced technique.

I'm so proud of you guys. * Sniff *

 

[Strong Badam]

^It's a bug. LOL.

You can still give her some invincibility frames mid way through the animation. As it is right now its not even worth connecting them as characters. It takes so long that you may as well scrap the BV attack and replace it with a brand new attack because transforming is barely possible.

I guess if you never kill your opponent or knock them off stage, yeah.

 

[Solharath]

Full stage homing attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GoTY3gSifQ

This been discussed yet? If it has, let it fade into obscurity.

 

[trojanpooh]

I guess so, but if you're into team matches or free for alls finding the time to transform will be really really hard. Like I said before, I don't really care since I don't play Zelda. I'm just throwing out ideas here.

 

[mugwhump]

I'm pretty sure no characters will be added until all of them are ready, at which point we'll either be playing a true near-final beta or the finished product.

So we'll be waiting about a year to play as the other 65% of the cast?

There are. I wouldn't suggest you do so.

Eh? I was hoping to get the rest of the characters back (in their frankenstein-esque semi-vBrawl versions) by deleting PM's CSS files or whatever. Are you saying the GCT has code in it to cockblock me?

 

[MK26]

That doesn't completely fix the issue......... the loading time will still be long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2YjpJbYS0

 

[Ulevo]

^It's a bug. LOL.

I guess if you never kill your opponent or knock them off stage, yeah.

It's cool though! Lucas can airdodge to down B and it gives Lucas a boost.

Let's keep it!

 

[Mr.Pickle]

I don't want to meat ride you guys to much, but I'd like to let you guys know that playing that demo yesterday was the most fun I've had with smash in a long time, gave me such an adrenaline rush lol.
Ganon to me feels perfect, I like him better than his melee and his brawl+ form.
I think I've tried and enjoyed each character, except jigglypuff but I never liked that character to begin with so not your fault lol, and besides ganon, I think I had the most fun with sonic, taunt canceling is awesome . Quite sure he'll be my second , but yeah fantastic job PM team, the characters, the stages, and just the overall feel of it is just amazing! This is what brawl should have been.

 

[Scufo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2YjpJbYS0

Seems legit.

 

[Machiavelli.CF]

Full stage homing attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GoTY3gSifQ

This been discussed yet? If it has, let it fade into obscurity.

This is glorious. I hope the PMBR doesnt automatically remove glitches like this.
After all, all I have to point to is "wavedashin" and "L-canceling" Look at every glitch like them and rethink if they deserve to be removed.. or if maybe theres a bit of use to keep them in.

 

[JCaesar]

^ That's not a glitch. When the homing attack actually began (over halfway across FD), he was close enough for it to lock in.

Eh? I was hoping to get the rest of the characters back (in their frankenstein-esque semi-vBrawl versions) by deleting PM's CSS files or whatever. Are you saying the GCT has code in it to cockblock me?

We don't support this kind of thing. Please don't discuss it here.

 

[Revven]

The homing attack distance is on purpose lol.

 

[Machiavelli.CF]

Oh xP ok then, but still maybe take what I said into concideration if ever you run into a glitch in testing.

 

[Solharath]

The homing attack distance is on purpose lol.

I refer mostly to the spinshot'd homing attack gathering enough distance to charge and release the homing attack to cut clear across FD as a type of AT, being that it's actually kinda hard to pull off repeatedly. I know the attack distance is on purpose, I just found that application to be amusing enough to warrant showing.

 

[NeoZ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2YjpJbYS0

How did they do that?

 

[Ulevo]

Once I'm finished doing my music and such, Imma upload a video of Lucas with his airdodge canceled special shenanigans.

 

[GP&B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2YjpJbYS0

Wow, that's a significant difference. That's almost up to par with Melee's.

 

[Problem2]

Does anybody have recorded sets yet? There isn't anything new in the Brawl videos section.

 

[Ugg]

The AiB thing takes about a day or so, iirc.

I used Ganondorf and Marth. Ugg used Falcon. There was a Falco that I friendlied. That's what I know off the top of the head.

My connection with Ugg (my r1) was alright for wifi and I know it had effect on both of us, but I saw them doing a fair amount of tech skill in it. I think online play might need a buffer, though.

(late reply)

I think it's worse with buffer online, and I found it completely okay in terms of WiFi.

 

[ManEg]

Once I'm finished doing my music and such, Imma upload a video of Lucas with his airdodge canceled special shenanigans.

I was thinking of doing that but I don't have the means to record stuff. That bug is really fun isn't it? It makes for an awesome AT xD

 

[leelue]

This is glorious. I hope the PMBR doesnt automatically remove glitches like this.
After all, all I have to point to is "wavedashin" and "L-canceling" Look at every glitch like them and rethink if they deserve to be removed.. or if maybe theres a bit of use to keep them in.

It's 2011 and people still refer to wavedashing and L-canceling as glitches...



Pardon me if this has been asked, but can we set up a place where all the new ATs can be written down? It was suggested to host them on what i'll refer to as the mother site.

 

[Ulevo]

It's really good.

It doesn't have any use with PKT or Power Up, but PK Freeze and his down special really have some utility with it. If you angle it correctly, you can do an air dodge canceled PK Freeze from the air if you time it at the top of your full jump. Lucas will thrust forward and nail it just as he hits the ground. It allows him to approach with PK Freeze, and you can even start combos with it at low %.

With his down special, he gains more distance than he normally would by just short hopping in to the down special, and he can pivot in the air with it as well, which gives him great set ups.

I know its a bug, but I highly encourage the developers to think about this one before removing it. At the very least, wait until the final version is out before you take it out to give some people a feel for using it and see how the Lucas mains enjoy it.

 

[Msingh0]

hey guys, I was using falco, and found that when SHFFL'ing If I fast fall too quick Falco's gun doesn't fire. maybe I'm not pressing B quick enough? maybe its LD? I can pull it off quite consistently, its just randomly.

I can also hear the gun fire, but the laser doesn't come out. maybe its just me.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

So, I decided to play around with Subspace M:essary a little. Two minutes in I was playing as Mario, with Sheik's portrait, and the name tag telling me I was playing Green Alloy.

So basically, weird **** happens.

 

[Ulevo]

I can also hear the gun fire, but the laser doesn't come out. maybe its just me.

This was in Melee. It's just more prominent here because landing detection makes the window for this to happen more open.

 

[JCaesar]

Once I'm finished doing my music and such, Imma upload a video of Lucas with his airdodge canceled special shenanigans.

Please don't. We're removing that glitch as we speak.

 

[Anth0ny]

I tried playing event matches and I couldn't beat the one where you had to get to the end of mushroomy kingdom lol.

 

[~TLK~]

Is there a good place to find people to play this? or should i just stick to contacting friends?

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Just so you know, I'm willing to mod a few event matches so you can play them but only use the available stuff from the demo.

But.........................yeah.

Anyway, that Homing attack from across the stage is legit.