Project M Social Thread

[Archangel]

haha, wow, thanks for that Spam_Arrows. Glad to see you have a hold on yourself.

I don't have time for nonsense. I respect everyone as a man. If people aren't going to respect me as a man or want to play the tough guy from behind a computer card I really don't have time for it. Those people can address me in person or not at all.

I apologized for my reactions of late anyway. Seeing as how I posted it after you previously posted it can't be helped. Your right I would love to test play this game. I'm not gonna deny it. I can't think of anyone who's posted in this thread that would NOT want to test play it so what's your point in saying something like that anyway?

Unless you yourself are trying to get some kind of drama started-_-. What's your boggle sir?

 

[I R MarF]

Marth is coming along great but he isn't there yet. I assume it is the physics issues and throws that are holding him back. Because if everything is frame perfect from melee, the visual and sound differences are just mind tricks.

IMO, the entire P:M team should abandon working on characters and completely focus on the unfinished physics aspects (i.e. Landing Detection, DI, Friction). Once the physics are perfected, it will be A LOT easier to test all of the characters out to assure they can be transferred from melee. You can't build a house until you have a foundation.

 

[shanus]

It didn't came out hostile at all, if anything came off great, you always find a way to answer out comments in a respectful way, and it's one of the things that i appreciate the most about you great sir(other than your supreme awesome skills in coding ). Also, the comment was not directed to anyone, but I do admit that we get some hostile responses from some people, many of those times without a valid reason to be attacked

Yeah, there a few PMBR'ers who definitely have a bit of a temper, lol.

 

[Archangel]

Marth is coming along great but he isn't there yet. I assume it is the physics issues and throws that are holding him back. Because if everything is frame perfect from melee, the visual and sound differences are just mind tricks.

IMO, the entire P:M team should abandon working on characters and completely focus on the unfinished physics aspects (i.e. Landing Detection, DI, Friction). Once the physics are perfected, it will be A LOT easier to test all of the characters out to assure they can be transferred from melee. You can't build a house until you have a foundation.

I love you btw. Single? When can we get married?

 

[shanus]

Marth is coming along great but he isn't there yet. I assume it is the physics issues and throws that are holding him back. Because if everything is frame perfect from melee, the visual and sound differences are just mind tricks.

IMO, the entire P:M team should abandon working on characters and completely focus on the unfinished physics aspects (i.e. Landing Detection, DI, Friction). Once the physics are perfected, it will be A LOT easier to test all of the characters out to assure they can be transferred from melee. You can't build a house until you have a foundation.

We only have 1 member of the team who can do Landing Detection and DI, and that is Dantarion. It wouldn't make much sense to try and not gain headway on other items when you have specialties.

 

[Revven]

Marth is coming along great but he isn't there yet. I assume it is the physics issues and throws that are holding him back. Because if everything is frame perfect from melee, the visual and sound differences are just mind tricks.

IMO, the entire P:M team should abandon working on characters and completely focus on the unfinished physics aspects (i.e. Landing Detection, DI, Friction). Once the physics are perfected, it will be A LOT easier to test all of the characters out to assure they can be transferred from melee. You can't build a house until you have a foundation.

Except... DI isn't something any of us can fix, only one man can; same with landing detection. That one man is Dantarion and that man is too busy with clone engine and can do what he wants to do right now (and that is clone engine). So, we're not going to be just sitting here waiting weeks upon weeks doing nothing just so we have some definitive codes from Dantarion that fix these particular issues.

It is better to continue the work we have to do than wait on something that may never come to fruition (landing detection).

edit: freakin' ninja'd by shanus.

 

[Reaver197]

I assume the inequity of such changes (working on characters versus fixing things like the physics and landing detection) is that making animation and smash attack changes is a lot easier to know how to do, and thus, they have more people for that sort of task.

Changing how the physics, detection, and general underlying mechanics requires technical coding knowledge and proficiency, which seems to be a lot harder for them to find. The reality of dealing with a project like this forces a sort of less-than-ideal way of handling it. You can't just say "well fix this first", and expect it to be just that easy.

Just my couple of cents.

Edit: Ha. Whaddya know.

 

[Jay Talbayne]

Marth is coming along great but he isn't there yet. I assume it is the physics issues and throws that are holding him back. Because if everything is frame perfect from melee, the visual and sound differences are just mind tricks.

IMO, the entire P:M team should abandon working on characters and completely focus on the unfinished physics aspects (i.e. Landing Detection, DI, Friction). Once the physics are perfected, it will be A LOT easier to test all of the characters out to assure they can be transferred from melee. You can't build a house until you have a foundation.

Yea i feel you on that, Without the physics it will feel off. its probably easier to update characters vs working on the physics.. isnt it?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

The characters can be done in BBox and PSA. DI and Landing detection is actual coding.

 

[Pen_island]

What happens when snake taunt cancels? Does a box just randomly spawn out of nowhere? That would be awesome if it did. Same question goes for kirby too. In 64 if you taunt canceled while wearing a hat the star would come out of kirby. Would the same thing happen in this game?

 

[Jay Talbayne]

The characters can be done in BBox and PSA. DI and Landing detection is actual coding.

Figured as much.. how far has that gotten anyway? dont mean to bother yall, but by looking at the videos the physics seem pretty much dead on.

 

[JCaesar]

The physics are dead on. The data was ripped straight from Melee.

 

[Rikana]

I just watched Shadow Claw 4. I really hope Mewtwo won't just be Taj tier. I'm really looking forward to playing Mewtwo in P:M. I attempted to play Mewtwo before but its just so hard to achieve that kind of level of play.

Actually, regarding that. Because you guys are porting over physics and Mewtwo is going to be included.. will you guys keep him as light-weight? Mewtwo's physics just never really went through my mind in Melee.

Spoiler

Mewtwo should have float cancel. lol no lies that'd be so sick.

 

[ManEg]

Please explain why Dantarion is the only one capable of deciphering landing detection AND DI? Not enough coders with his skills?

 

[NinjaFoxX]

not enough actual coders. as in, is he actually programming this stuff?

 

[Archangel]

I think Mewtwo should be resized. It doesn't make sense that he's as big as bowser.

even if his moves have the same reach. Hell he could even get Marth's grab imo. At least it's justifiable for M2 to have a grab range that long. Marth and DDD idk how they do it.

I think what they are trying to say is Dantarion is not only by far the greatest programmer involved with the project. He's also the greatest to ever live.

 

[Rikana]

I think its cause its an area where Dantarion is most familiar with.

 

[kaizo13]

i think...ur all thinking too much

can't wait to play this.....Oct. 16th here i come!

 

[Stevo]

lol mewtwo with float cancel. That would be kinda cool (and would make sense, seeing as he can float).

It would be worth a test drive at least I think

 

[Revven]

Please explain why Dantarion is the only one capable of deciphering landing detection AND DI? Not enough coders with his skills?

not enough actual coders. as in, is he actually programming this stuff?

USB Gecko + ASM = Dantarion.

Seriously, ASM isn't easy to understand at all. And yes, there aren't any other hackers out there with his skills.

If you don't know what ASM is, I suggest you look it up.

 

[Mr.Pickle]

I think Mewtwo should be resized. It doesn't make sense that he's as big as bowser.

even if his moves have the same reach. Hell he could even get Marth's grab imo. At least it's justifiable for M2 to have a grab range that long. Marth and DDD idk how they do it.

Lol I like the way you think.

 

[Sora-kun]

I noticed the Marth thing too but it's best not to complain. I hate when my parents tell me how something isn't done when i haven't gotten to it yet or i'm working on it. Seriously. It annoys me beyond reason. So i can imagine the devs in a similar mood when people complain about stuff that they're still working on or haven't had a chance to get to yet.

NO COMPLAINING UNTIL THE FINAL PRODUCT IS OUT!!

Then you can ***** at them all you want :D

edit: **** this post was late.


so mewtwo's going to be made heavier right? is his nair going to have some priority?

 

[Stevo]

lol mewtwo with float cancel. That would be kinda cool (and would make sense, seeing as he can float).

It would be worth a test drive at least I think

lol imagine floating with mewtwo across the stage using his neutral air

would be so awesome.

the more I think of the things he could do, the more I would like to see this happen.
wouldnt take away from any strategies he had in melee either, would only add.

ok im done now

 

[Plum]

Sadly most Brawl hackers are just gone for various reasons.
If anyone here was around in the beginning (omg wavedashing in Brawl!!!111!!1!1!!! and the dreaded 256 line limit) we had so many people willing to explore Brawl. Brawl is one of, if not the most deeply hacked console games out there and it's all because of those early hackers like PW, Spunit, and more. Whether their equipment broke, or they got bored, or got too busy to mess with video games, or moved on to new games (screw Super Mario Galaxy ) they left the Brawl scene. Now we have Dantarion. He's a wizard, and he has done things that NOBODY has ever been able to do with Brawl but he's only one man.

Gosh I remember the glory days... New discoveries were happening on a daily basis it seemed... But that was years ago.

 

[ManEg]

USB Gecko + ASM = Dantarion.

Seriously, ASM isn't easy to understand at all. And yes, there aren't any other hackers out there with his skills.

If you don't know what ASM is, I suggest you look it up.

Heh, I see you guys weren't kidding about that wizard thing, geez...

Edit: Suddenly, Dantarion: The Game seems to make a lot of sense

 

[jahkzheng]

I like Mewtwo's size alright... he's supposed to be a big pokemon. He should just have nice priority to compensate. Mewtwo should also definitely have ridiculous DDD-esque grab range... he's psychic after all. Couple that with his awesome throws and you got a throwing monster xD. Throws should still be his primary killers.



Edit: It's too bad Dan can't teach some of the devs or maybe pmbr members that have less to do and are interested, how he does what he does. But that would take even more of his time away... so, atm, he's the man.

 

[Deleted member]

i think...ur all thinking too much

can't wait to play this.....Oct. 16th here i come!

You going to Tipped Off 6?

 

[Archangel]

Lol I like the way you think.

that's an EXTREMELY rare post. Thanks

Sadly most Brawl hackers are just gone for various reasons.
If anyone here was around in the beginning (omg wavedashing in Brawl!!!111!!1!1!!! and the dreaded 256 line limit) we had so many people willing to explore Brawl. Brawl is one of, if not the most deeply hacked console games out there and it's all because of those early hackers like PW, Spunit, and more. Whether their equipment broke, or they got bored, or got too busy to mess with video games, or moved on to new games (screw Super Mario Galaxy ) they left the Brawl scene. Now we have Dantarion. He's a wizard, and he has done things that NOBODY has ever been able to do with Brawl but he's only one man.

Gosh I remember the glory days... New discoveries were happening on a daily basis it seemed... But that was years ago.

I kinda remember. I joined because someone told me I they were hacking brawl to play like Melee. I showed up expecting Project Melee but i got Brawl+. Which was fun for awhile.

 

[CheeseBurger]

lulz will there be a stream anytime soon?

 

[Archangel]

lulz will there be a stream anytime soon?

2 things.

1 I just ate 2 of your name.

2. Your profile pic looks like a busted, diseased, hairy, asian ******. WTF

 

[Sneak8288]

obviously tryin to get banned

 

[I R MarF]

We only have 1 member of the team who can do Landing Detection and DI, and that is Dantarion. It wouldn't make much sense to try and not gain headway on other items when you have specialties.

Except... DI isn't something any of us can fix, only one man can; same with landing detection. That one man is Dantarion and that man is too busy with clone engine and can do what he wants to do right now (and that is clone engine). So, we're not going to be just sitting here waiting weeks upon weeks doing nothing just so we have some definitive codes from Dantarion that fix these particular issues.

It is better to continue the work we have to do than wait on something that may never come to fruition (landing detection).

edit: freakin' ninja'd by shanus.

If this is the case then I guess your reasoning is justified. I just hope Dant gets around to fixing all of it.

EDIT: WHAT IS WITH CHEESEBURGER'S PROFILE PIC?

 

[Plum]

lulz will there be a stream anytime soon?

Blue Waffle is disgusting.

Spoiler

I have friends who are regulars on 4chan... they showed me Blue Waffle. If you really want to know you can look it up yourself

I hope you get banned so I don't have to look at you're avatar anymore. :V

 

[Archangel]

*pukes* I hate you plum

It's exactly what I thought it was lol. Todays lesson in short....

DON'T GO DOWN THERE JEFF!!!!!!

 

[CheeseBurger]

2 things.

1 I just ate 2 of your name.

2. Your profile pic looks like a busted, diseased, hairy, asian ******. WTF

lololol

obviously tryin to get banned

they see me rolling, they hating

Blue Waffle is disgusting.

Spoiler

I have friends who are regulars on 4chan... they showed me Blue Waffle. If you really want to know you can look it up yourself

I hope you get banned so I don't have to look at you're avatar anymore. :V

looolz

blue waffles is so hot, gets me off every night when i beat my meat

 

[Archangel]

"stay up there jeff! Don't go down there!!!!! Go back up!!!! There u go!!!!"

 

[ConnorTheKid]

idk about you guys but Marth still seems pretty Marth-ish; especially on the ledge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJstuVH1Dw

 

[Sora-kun]

...So much wtf <_<
@the cheeseburger guy

 

[JCaesar]

I'm hopefully gonna get a livestream going on Saturday from a Melee tourney, with special guest commentary by the infamous Jason.

 

[Archangel]

idk about you guys but Marth still seems pretty Marth-ish; especially on the ledge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TJstuVH1Dw

interesting match. Still yet to see a Fair>Dair combo. However some made cute setups though on snakes part. I'm glad to see Marth can Uthrow>Utilt still.