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Yes, some Ivy wins. I got a little depressed after watching your last video lol
ill post mine too :3c
Just curious, why would you want to see Melee top/high tiers? I would've thought you'd have enough of them after > 10 years of Melee, unless you want to see how well TL stacks against them.Toon Link, Falco, Jigglypuff, Peach.
I don't want to see TL stacked against them, I just want to see them because they're fun and interesting characters to watch, and get very little high-performance representation.Just curious, why would you want to see Melee top/high tiers? I would've thought you'd have enough of them after > 10 years of Melee, unless you want to see how well TL stacks against them.
Also, ending a game with an off-screen Solar Beam kill is the most satisfying thing ever.
I just wanna see you destroy T-Block's Falco againWhat characters would people want to see? o_o
Genesect was a bit overcentralizing. People literally were running less than 31 IV's in a particular defensive stat, JUST to make sure he got the "wrong" boost from Download. That kind of janky stuff, or always tossing on 1 of the 3-4 Pokemon that might do ok vs any of his sets isn't healthy and especially with Uturn it's hard to force him to accept the bad MU. Get the Download boost and you're hitting nearly as hard as CB Scizor (assuming you aren't running the CB/LO set on Genesect, those hit even harder upfront) with pretty solid coverage and fairly solid typing with Rain making Fire less threatening too. Immune to Toxic and T. Spikes, neutral to SR, hits hard with download boost and guessing the wrong set is extremely costly.Genesect is fine, IMO, and why would you ban sun but not sand?
No way, I need Kabutops and Golduck... and Charizard. So much style. Without them, I'm essentially playing a Care Bears game.**** that, Rain is going
Exactly. He's at the bottom of the Troll Speed Tier, so unless he's scarfed (taking quite a bit out of his power), he's easily revenge killed and he's not coming in on common set-up pokes, like Volcarona and Gyarados. Also, Genesect wasn't doing anything to Blissey, or Evio Chansey, or some other tough guys (CB Terrakion comes to mind, maybe Conkledurr as well). I guess a 'BL3 Tier' would be perfect for him...With that said, he's not Uber Max level. If there was a tier under Uber and above OU, he'd probably be in there along with a few other current Ubers. The base 99 speed is honestly the most disappointing thing about him. For the OU metagame though I'm super glad he's gone because it was so mindless.
Why don't you give us something to talk about? I'd gladly chime in. You know we both agree that Ike was hit unnecessarily hard...Oh look a Project:M thread
How can you even say that when Sand has the BEST weather starter, a second very reliable starter, and great abusers of it by the names of Terrakion and Landorus, plus all the great pokemon who don't get chipped out by it (Scizor, Genesect, Reuniclus, Ferrothorn, Forretress, etc). I would even go so far as to argue that more Gastrodons should be aiming to use Sand Force, since everyone expects Strorm Drain and Gastrodon still gets solid boosted coverage with EdgeQuake. Hippowdown, too, can also run very reliable sets with Sand Force to boost its moves.And for the last goddamn time, sand is NOWHERE near as powerful as sun and rain currently are. [sblock]Low level Groudon and Kyogre had been legalized in an early-Plat tourney and were, at that time, deemed to be broken. Through a single slot, one would have access to an intangible component of the game that breaks what would otherwise be tolerable threats; the biggest problem however, was how much weather control, despite how carefully both Pokemon had to be played, affected the OU metagame. This logic can be applied to this generation as well, but obviously to a lesser extent due to the massive power creep. Sand has strict limitations regarding its offensive potential; sand cannot simultaneously provide power and speed boosts to another Pokemon like current sun does. Doryuuzu was banned due to it having immediate access to crazy power, a move that can single-handedly pressure an entire playstyle and the potential doubling of its Speed stat while under a potentially permanent weather condition -- which two Pokemon, with other uses than just providing weather control, could provide. Granted, Stoutland, Sandslash, and Landorus-I are doubtlessly powerful threats, but are all far more easily manageable than a team of Drought + Venusaur / Victini / filler or the infamous, braindead Drizzle + Tornadus-T / Scarfdeo combo -- this isn't based off of my opinion, but rather how current BW2 OU is equipped to deal with said combinations. In comparison to rain, sand falters greatly in terms of offensive -- no, overall benefit. While under rain, every Water-type gets double-STAB, previously risk-reward moves become spammable, and anything weak to Fire or just reasonably bulky (with or without a certain ability) just refuses to die. I don't think that residual damage and the chance to abuse a couple of abilities (there's a pretty good chance that Lando-I, literally the only viable user of Sand Power, will want to use Sheer Force, anyway) can even hold a flame to the burning pile of crap Drizzle brings to OU. Comparing sand to sun or rain is like comparing a Threshold to an entire Halo ring -- they share some traits, but the differences between them are so vast.
Moreover, those who believe that sand will become THE dominant force in BW2 OU if sun / rain were to be banned really need to take a closer look at the current metagame. Deo-D offense and, ****, even DRAGMAG are more likely to shine brighter than sand.[/sblock]
Well I mean, I understand the idea of tweaks, and the changes wouldn't be such a big deal to me if they were planning on compensating for them some how. Like a faster bair, a more usable counter, maybe a whole new counter system would be cool. But PMBR has given no indication that they plan on doing anything but make him worse, using the hotword "tweaks".Why don't you give us something to talk about? I'd gladly chime in. You know we both agree that Ike was hit unnecessarily hard...
lolWhen DF tells you your tangent has diverted the thread, you know shet has gotten bad here.
No it can't come out yet because they aren't done nerfing Ike and they have to release the Samuses stillThe new features look sweet now 2.5 only has to come out plox?