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But surely with the new bair, QAC and generally better hitboxes, pikachu would be much better. Why isnt the pikachu dthrow just made like melee? It didnt guarentee any upsmash followups but was still very useful.
I did that after the first time I saw it, actually.
There were people trying to argue over a brawl tier list before the game was released, if I remember correctly. Theorysmash isn't a fun game.People complaining about balance in a game that is not finished and they never played, amazing. Maybe wait to play the game first
Also whats wrong if some characters become top tier level? As long as the rest of rhe cast is still viable this doesnt seem like an issue b/c it seemed obvious to me some characters would be better then others.
Melee Pikachu isn't good because he has one of the worst grab ranges, one of the worst shields, bad damage output on his aerials (making him susceptible to crouch canceling), mediocre horizontal range on his attacks, and limited tech options (standing tech had 2 frames of vulnerability compared to the standard 6, but tech rolls were very short and visibly slow). He has a cool moveset, but the above limitations severely inhibit his overall viability.
UAir out of shield is really good too. But regarding Pikachu:M...
Besides these changes, does Pikachu have a better shield and grab range now? (The improved grab range is implied by "better hitboxes," but I just want to be sure.) Also, I asked on a stream whether Pikachu has his Melee frame data for tech rolling and was told that he still has it; out of curiosity, why did you guys choose not to make his teching frame data like the rest of the cast? I personally think it's a little silly to have a single fantastic option with only two frames of vulnerability versus three viable options.jalued said:But surely with the new bair, QAC and generally better hitboxes, pikachu would be much better. Why isnt the pikachu dthrow just made like melee? It didnt guarentee any upsmash followups but was still very useful.
Confused and saddened by this news
You can make anyone sound like a terrible character if you point out only their Negatives. Positives of Pikachu: Strongest Upsmash in the game, Auto-canceling Nairs, one of the top gimping characters in the game(top 5 I'd say), Can fully recover from Spikes until really high %, Super Wavedash, 5th Fastest character in the game, 4 jumps(counting double upB), Quick attack cancels and chains ground and aerials together as good as anyone in S class.
bro, my bad bro.Dude dont u know that mario is the standard unit of measure
pretty sure we were talking about melee, so no qac.
Its cool man, just next time look in the back of your notebook, it has all the standard units right there.
Lol wtf? This isn't Melee 2.0... it's a totally different game altogether. You say it like you're implying people who play Melee will naturally switch over...
Falco's Shine makes him a league above everyone else it's true. Aside from him you have Fox and Sheik and below them probably Pikachu. Marth and Falcon mostly use aerials or grabs into aerials.
It's basically a Teleportation glitch. Involving his Neutral B and Quick attack.
The double up B is technically split into two sections. If you don't press another direction after the first UpB then you will not go anywhere(making it 3 jumps) if you do press another direction you move again (making it 4 jumps.
)Yeah but if you read what was being said we weren't exactly talking about combos per sue. It was about a specific kind of combo style in which case Combos go from ground to air and possibly back to ground. Puff, Falcon, and Marth specifically are better at using grabs or Aerials to do combos. Exceptions being Marth and Puff's Utilt and Falcon's Side-B. He can Dtilt some characters into combos as well. Pikachu can do pretty much the same things against character in multiple weight classes.
Every sentence in this post is incorrect.
Pikachu's grab range is a quaternion.
You're thinking of vBrawl, you sad child.
Holy ****, this was amazing. I felt like I was watching a released game with years of players' experience. Definitely the best P:M video I've ever seen. Some of the combos were pure Melee.
lol. u got me
Along with Jesus suit Samus, it will be a roster to remember.
umm no...zss was not in the trailerShe was in the vid, must of missed her but ether way mad hype for zoot suit samus
