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I doubt anyone has seen the improvements I recently made to the animation outside of the pmbr...
Odds are decent that I'll go.
I disagree so hard. The best characters that can be CGd by her are Ganondorf (whose viability really isn't hurt by the CG as he can CG her back), DK, Pikachu (Who is really hard to CG with Sheik anyway... even the best CGers drop it, and Pika still isn't unviable due to it), DK, and I guess Yoshi. DK and Yoshi are already unviable.
They aren't auto-defeated by Sheik if they don't suck. See: Pikachu, Ganondorf, P:M DK. The reason low tiers are decimated by Sheik is because she outclasses them in every way, not just because of the CG. Those characters would lose regardless, and one match-up does not an unviable character make.
There are two Donkey Kongs in Melee?
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If by CG you mean ftilt, and you're talking about vBrawl, then yes. Otherwise, no, not at all.
This pleases me greatly.
Even if that were true (and strictly speaking it isn't), it's tangential to my point, which is that the cg is centralizing and, to borrow a term, not interactive.
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As I said to be fair alot of characters she beats out are already bad. However their are also alot of potentially good characters that she beats. To show you how good the Dthrow is I suggest you swap Mario's dthrow with Sheiks. Watch what happens. Then do the same thing with Marth. You'll start to see how gay it is
Considering how Ryoko won the PM tournament that JCaesar hosted, it seems like someone around Ryoko's skill level (regardless of whether he's mediocre or really good) is a good indicator of whether a character can be considered viable. Given that Magus was Ike and going evenly with him, it's clear that Ike is definitely a lot better than some people gave him credit for. Ike going even against spacies would further solidify his viability.
.No offense to Kiri, but considering how Magus was going even against Ryoko, it seems like his complaints were unwarranted.
I'm going to make a real effort to come out to more Smash events in Vancouver and you'll have my support for P:M. If people aren't interested then we can have a P:M setup and if the game lives up to the hype then people will be naturally inclined to try it out and hopefully love it.BC scene generally doesn't like project:m.
Most of them are like "yeah, its actually kinda fun.... but it's not melee :/" and one guy i know REALLY hates it. He's all like "Project:m is brawl with an identity problem! If you like melee, play melee- if you like brawl play brawl >:[ :madmadmadmad:"
Not sure how the rest of Canada thinks O:
But you're not trying to prove to the pro-NTSC chaingrab crowd that Sheik is still viable without. I don't believe they care about that. From what I can gather, the problem they have is that the nerf is arbitrary, and contradicts a goal of the project. To prove that it's not arbitrary, that it's a necessary change for the good of the game, we would have to field test it amongst the best of the community, let them see for themselves how powerful it is, gather data of how it centralizes the metagame, and record it all for future reference whenever someone brings up the subject again.
There was a time when people had infinite chain grabs on Lucas back in brawl. P:M elimated it. There are alot of stages where walls supplied infinite chaingrabs. They were banned. The list goes on.
"Brawl isn't melee"
Sheik's CG is not infinite, and it alone does not make any match-up unwinnable in Project M. The end.
I said it makes it unfair. Don't twist my words, don't be that guy.
I'm sorry sir, my problem lies with infinites not with walls.
Ignoring the magic number which I expect is a typo or just a joke.
