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Project M Social Thread
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Cubelarooso
Smash Lord
Every stream from now on.
MaxThunder
PM Support
yup... if someone is able to sing it and record in good quality, then i could handle the rest of the music... just saying...
Archangel
Smash Hero
I would totally do it but it's against the law for me to sing.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
That would most likely be Vist's girlfriend.
JCaesar
Smash Hero
Yup yup.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Random thought of the day: Self-destructs are pretty lame in Brawl. As in they aren't counted if you get hit at all even if you jump off the stage yourself. Am I too assume this ain't something that will be fixed to Melee standards?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I guess it was to prevent players from keeping points away from their attacker, but it completely kills the actual point of SDs. That is, they're penalizations for ****ing up. I thought you got -1 to make up for the fact that you tried to keep a point away in the first place.
It's a minor thing though.
It's a minor thing though.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
"Keep points away from the attacker" is handled easily by making SD's -2.
Stevo
Smash Champion
so many little things in brawl to fix
I read somewhere that DK has been pretty stable for a while now. Is he basically Melee but with better shield, better grab range, and a usable dash attack? I know his Fair is not meteor cancellable.
Is there less lag time after DK's Fair now kinda like Mario's?
I'm envisioning DK dash attacking off the stage into double jump Fair as an awesome combo in P:M but I get the feeling he would die after. I think Dash attacking off a ledge is a neat addition as a side note.
I read somewhere that DK has been pretty stable for a while now. Is he basically Melee but with better shield, better grab range, and a usable dash attack? I know his Fair is not meteor cancellable.
Is there less lag time after DK's Fair now kinda like Mario's?
I'm envisioning DK dash attacking off the stage into double jump Fair as an awesome combo in P:M but I get the feeling he would die after. I think Dash attacking off a ledge is a neat addition as a side note.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I'd be for Kirby getting his Melee dash attack with usable properties since his brawl one seems like an arbitrary change in his moveset.
Hah, I was making sure it was a girl before making a guy with a really girly voice feel bad.
She was really pretty good. I was surprised... I've never seen a girl be any good at smash specifically.
MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Only girls that I know of that are good are DynaDash and tastygoldfish(?)
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
It's not arbitrary at all. His yo-yo breakdance looks awesome and fits way better with his game canon. The fire dash always looked weird and felt wrong to me.
Plus, way too many fire users in the cast right now. The PMBR is taking away fire from characters like Kirby & Samus because it is so prevalent.
Edit: but I agree -2 for SDs would be a great change in the game system because I don't think you have that option to customize right now. But then I'm probably wrong haven't played Brawl in forever.
crush
Smash Master
armada and MacD come to mind.
teczero too.
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Yo-Yo breakdance makes as much sense as Wolf's U-smash as an attack. Burning is in far more Kirby games than Yo-Yo, which is already referenced to by Kirby's Ness hat.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
That being said, Yo-yo is still the coolest ability Kirby has ever had.
Comeback Kid
Smash Champion
Ness hat + breakdance = stronger than Galactic Knight.
I've never met very skilled women in any video game other than World of Warcraft and Call of Duty (I play neither so I imagine they are relatively skilled).
I would actually love to see a girl do well in Smash Bros. just because I like stereotypes being broken.
I would actually love to see a girl do well in Smash Bros. just because I like stereotypes being broken.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
There's a girl professional peach main in Bawlr who's name escapes me at the moment.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Nicole...?
`dazrin
Smash Champion
any streams happening today?
she's posted on this thread on this account quite a bit actually lol
my gf (girl in my avatar) is alright :] she knows how to l-cancel/wavedash and all that lol but she doesn't compete or anything, she just plays for fun
she's posted on this thread on this account quite a bit actually lolWe're talking about real games, not Brawl. But jab aside, we fixed Snake's latching on stage after Up-B to not be stupid, lol.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Milktea doesn't count as a girl?
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To elaborate, Snake snaps on the edge before he correctly equipped the Cypher in Brawl. Not in PM anymore.
Fun fact: Item related SDs in Melee take away an extra point, meaning you lose 3 points if -2 is on.
Stevo
Smash Champion
SERIOUS QUESTION:
has the PMBR considered lowering the amount of invincibility frames you get after grabbing the ledge?
If so, have you come to a decision?
Options I see are:
1. Leave it as Melee. (most likely)
2. Change it to work like 64 (invincibility dissapears as soon as you let go)
3. Lower it from melee to allow invicible actions from the ledge if done quickly. (could be argued)
4. Remove Ledge Invincibility or increase it (not gonna happen)
Speaking of invincibility, should the invincibility after respawning be changed at all?
I know the project is trying to keep things similar to melee, but given the fact that you guys have the freedom to change these sorts of things, I think it should be discussed. If something like this were to be changed, P:M is the perfect opportunity to do so.
edges are dangerous in most fighters, as you get backed into a corner, but in melee, things are very different. Not saying it is a bad thing, but is there room for improvement?
These questions also tie into the decision on whether or not to change ledge occupancy as well.
I would like to see the conversation go back to things like this. This thread hasn't really discussed anything important lately imo.
has the PMBR considered lowering the amount of invincibility frames you get after grabbing the ledge?
If so, have you come to a decision?
Options I see are:
1. Leave it as Melee. (most likely)
2. Change it to work like 64 (invincibility dissapears as soon as you let go)
3. Lower it from melee to allow invicible actions from the ledge if done quickly. (could be argued)
4. Remove Ledge Invincibility or increase it (not gonna happen)
Speaking of invincibility, should the invincibility after respawning be changed at all?
I know the project is trying to keep things similar to melee, but given the fact that you guys have the freedom to change these sorts of things, I think it should be discussed. If something like this were to be changed, P:M is the perfect opportunity to do so.
edges are dangerous in most fighters, as you get backed into a corner, but in melee, things are very different. Not saying it is a bad thing, but is there room for improvement?
These questions also tie into the decision on whether or not to change ledge occupancy as well.
I would like to see the conversation go back to things like this. This thread hasn't really discussed anything important lately imo.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
I'm hoping that ledge invincibility decay will be implemented in the next release.
So ****ing cute
So ****ing cute
Stevo
Smash Champion
care to explain it by chance?
Sounds interesting. I must have missed some things in this thread.
Sounds interesting. I must have missed some things in this thread.
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
Over the 2 year span that Project M has started, I've watched the progress on Snake(my chosen main) and he's received some considerable buffs. The streams also provided me with enough intel to determine the positive side of his improvements, while a few of my friends only see the negative(and continue to) in Snake. They think he's broken already because of he has a new up B protection, faster mine placement, fast tilts, and deadly aerials. They think he's broken because he's well...Snake! and still has all of his gadgets. Can anyone explain why Snake is or is not broken to me or to the thread, just in case my friends are reading?
Because snake has poor defenses in air, and is big/heavy so he's combo bait. Also doesnt have the fastest moves and the moves that are fast, dont have that much range, sans fsmash.
his recovery is still extremely free to projectiles and disjointed moves as up b doesnt have any kind of armor anymore.
Only characters with poorly disjointed/non-disjointed moves have issues edgeguarding snake, but im certain every character has a move that can beat snake's up b.
He also doesnt have great run speed nor does he have great aerial mobility, so he can't really combo. He can do okay juggles though.
his recovery is still extremely free to projectiles and disjointed moves as up b doesnt have any kind of armor anymore.
Only characters with poorly disjointed/non-disjointed moves have issues edgeguarding snake, but im certain every character has a move that can beat snake's up b.
He also doesnt have great run speed nor does he have great aerial mobility, so he can't really combo. He can do okay juggles though.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Each ledgegrab = decreased invincibility frames.
It was an idea brought up around the time that ledge occupancy was the main topic of this thread. Though, I don't recall seeing any of the devs posting about it being coded, let alone implemented into any of the builds.
@unholy - Snake only has one nade, his mines become active much more quickly, and double-hit Uair (if that's still being used) is balls. Snake also lost many of his vBrawl traits that made him good, but retained the ones that made him... well, not as good as Diddy.
edit: +what neko said
It was an idea brought up around the time that ledge occupancy was the main topic of this thread. Though, I don't recall seeing any of the devs posting about it being coded, let alone implemented into any of the builds.
@unholy - Snake only has one nade, his mines become active much more quickly, and double-hit Uair (if that's still being used) is balls. Snake also lost many of his vBrawl traits that made him good, but retained the ones that made him... well, not as good as Diddy.
edit: +what neko said
JediKnightTemplar
Smash Lord
I just did. If anyone legitimately wants it, I'll upload it to Youtube.
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Double hit uair isn't being used anymore when I checked yesterday.
At least he has a good WD.
At least he has a good WD.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
Is it still possible to do the psuedo-wavedash thing you could do in Brawl+ where you ran forward then crawled backwards for a split second, resulting in you sliding backwards? Most useful on Luigi.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Craq walking? That was in vBrawl as well. Honestly, though, with the friction increase, and amount of characters that can crawl, I don't see any usable applications of it.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
JCaesar
Smash Hero
I dunno if you're thinking about the same thing. In vBrawl you can't crouch out of run, so you could only get the little slide right as you landed. Or during walk I suppose, but I dunno how useful that would be.
Messing around in training mode: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/project-m---vigilante
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