Doesn't give you perfect lightshield.Or just hold on your shoulder buttons lightly so you don't waste frames grabbing?
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MaxThunder
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or you could just hold z after doing anything... i usually do it after aerials if i gotta shield... and since i l-cancell with z anyawys, it works out so nicely=)...
... and the z shield is bigger than normal light shielding too...
... and the z shield is bigger than normal light shielding too...
SNPR
Smash Journeyman
www.twitch.tv/sniperfox1
P:M all day from socal.
P:M all day from socal.
Cero
Smash Lord
Oh, shi-... You learn something everyday.
Realistically speaking, rarely will you ever see someone purposely use z to grab and go into light shield unless they find the time to do so (marth killer and maybe you predicted an approach from miles and miles away but you won't really find that in high level play). Its just much easier to toggle between hard shield and light shield with your shoulder buttons.
@cero z shielding is only bigger because you're using perfect light shielding.
ValTroX
Smash Ace
What's up with Lucas's super slow pkt? I mean come on guys, it wasn't necessary to nerf its speed.
Supreme Dirt
King of the Railway
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PMBR loves slow projectiles.
Honestly a fast multi-hitting projectile would be kinda dumb imo.
Honestly a fast multi-hitting projectile would be kinda dumb imo.
Cero
Smash Lord
Can you elaborate? I'm not sure what a perfect light shield is.
Mr.Jackpot
Smash Lord
Well you're always looking to improve your stream right?
If you buffer the lightshield using z you won't grab.Or just hold on your shoulder buttons lightly so you don't waste frames grabbing?
Supreme Dirt
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You still have to be doing something before hand. If you're trying to light shield in any other situation (running, walking, standing, etc) you CAN'T DO THAT.
Sneak8288
Smash Champion
If your a good spacies player than you do this alot on platforms... If I get knocked down i roll with my back toward the opponent and buffer lightshield with z and get a free bair when they touch it
Protip: You can buffer Z shield out of anything, even a jab or a landing animation.
I guess I forgot to specify that its not recommended when you're standing. Buffering while you're on the ground makes much more sense.
@cero: perfect light shielding is just being able to use the maximum size of light shield. Your shield size depends on how light you press the shoulder buttons as long as the controller can detect that you're pressing it. But its super hard to get it to its perfect size when you're in the middle of a match while running around.
@cero: perfect light shielding is just being able to use the maximum size of light shield. Your shield size depends on how light you press the shoulder buttons as long as the controller can detect that you're pressing it. But its super hard to get it to its perfect size when you're in the middle of a match while running around.
Cero
Smash Lord
Alright. Good to know.
Never used Z in Melee to light shield. Probably going to start next time I go to my friend's house.
Akuma2120
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Capital idea
That's funny too lol
Lovin the new Lucario, only because of the moveset really, and how the Vegeta import will go well over it, I actually hate any Pokemon after 151
Shadic
Alakadoof?
So good. Link streams are best streams.
Spoon~
Smash Ace
Raqu's link is a beasttttt
Even Ho-oh?
JOE!
Smash Hero
>Hate any poke after the first 151
I despise this mentality.... the 100 from gen2 were actually coded into gen1 (the classic Missigno. comes from data for Scizor I believe) for the most part (some weren't in) and I rarely hear an argument as to why gen1 is the best other than "oh dey's da orignalz!" or "da new onez luk stupid, gen1 wuz the best cus they had **** like Magnemite, who evolved into 3 magnemites! THAT'S creative and interesting!"
bleh
I despise this mentality.... the 100 from gen2 were actually coded into gen1 (the classic Missigno. comes from data for Scizor I believe) for the most part (some weren't in) and I rarely hear an argument as to why gen1 is the best other than "oh dey's da orignalz!" or "da new onez luk stupid, gen1 wuz the best cus they had **** like Magnemite, who evolved into 3 magnemites! THAT'S creative and interesting!"
bleh
rk-9000
Smash Apprentice
gen2=best gen1=2nd best and then it just slowly snowballs into the cluster**** that is gen5
Giygacoal
Smash Lord
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As a hardcore Pokémon fan, I know that many fans of generation 1 are too nostalgic to accept the newer generations... and admit how faulty their own generation is. The complaint that the pokémon of the newer gens have no originality/look bad in comparison to gen 1's holds no water since unoriginal/bad designs existed since gen 1. Voltorb, Electrode, Seel, Ditto, Diglett... not very well thought out characters. Gen 5, like gen 1, has both good and bad designs, but some old fans hate it because it's new.
rjgbadger
Banned via Warnings
generations 1 2 and 3 were all good. 4 was shoddy but i got used to it, but gen 5 sucks ***. they just stopped feeling like pokemon i guess.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Everyone has preferences. Pokemon was intended to be a children's game, so it's understandable for people to have generation preferences. Could we not delve off into that argument, please?
Would it be too much to ask for some Toon Link conversation instead of this?
Would it be too much to ask for some Toon Link conversation instead of this?
JOE!
Smash Hero
I feel like the actual gen4 game was sub par, but the aftergame / metagame was fantastic
Toon Link so far
Likes
-new fsmash, about time a link got his trade mark Jump attack
-kept vbrawl bair, that **** was too good
-bombs are in tact
-n64 links dash attack, if it has the ridiculous long lasting hitbox even better
-hurricane spin up B on the ground
Dislikes
-Up-B(air) in its current state, looks retarted powerful, and makes tl sink like a rock in air
-ylink fire arrows, i think TL vbrawl floaty arrows had more uses.
-dair looks stupid, aestetic problem only, lol
-sex kick, i know it was a stable of ylink, but TL's nair was pretty decent. Eh w/e everyone has a sex kick.
Likes
-new fsmash, about time a link got his trade mark Jump attack
-kept vbrawl bair, that **** was too good
-bombs are in tact
-n64 links dash attack, if it has the ridiculous long lasting hitbox even better
-hurricane spin up B on the ground
Dislikes
-Up-B(air) in its current state, looks retarted powerful, and makes tl sink like a rock in air
-ylink fire arrows, i think TL vbrawl floaty arrows had more uses.
-dair looks stupid, aestetic problem only, lol
-sex kick, i know it was a stable of ylink, but TL's nair was pretty decent. Eh w/e everyone has a sex kick.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
How does dair look stupid?
it always has, it looks even worse now that tlink doesnt rocket to the ground.
Literally i just put link 's fitmotion.pac onto tlink's model and looked at link dair with tL model ported onto it in bralbox, it looks infinately better. tlinks sword doesnt look like a friggin pogostick. Normally i don't like cloned moves, but this is one where i think it looks so much better if tlink uses links animation.
Literally i just put link 's fitmotion.pac onto tlink's model and looked at link dair with tL model ported onto it in bralbox, it looks infinately better. tlinks sword doesnt look like a friggin pogostick. Normally i don't like cloned moves, but this is one where i think it looks so much better if tlink uses links animation.
I don't think dair looks stupid, I think the pogostick look fits tlink, although it looked a lot better with the fast momentum effect. nair on the other hand...yeah
Cero
Smash Lord
How come no one ever gives me an answer on the light shields?
CONSPIRACY!
ClinkStryphart
Smash Journeyman
Now I know that there has been the blog post and streams of the tether LO being in effect and it looks awesome and seems like it works 100% better. Now my question is are you guys ever going to fix/change the tether amount limit? j/w.
hotdogturtle
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MonkUnit
Project M Back Roomer
Shadic posted a pic of Olimar with a sex kick hundreds of pages ago. Lol.
Jonny Westside
S4mus Fiend
Seriously. Why change his brawl Nair? His legs are too damn short..and don't come at me with that "YL in melee had a sex kick". Like who gives a ****, change his Nair back
!!! >.<
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Yeah, that's a sure way to get us to cater to your whims.
L7Junkie
Smash Apprentice
Just droppin' by to say I've played the Closed Alpha. Feels great being able to say that. That is all.
Mono.
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I want to pick up Toon Link but I just can't get used to his recovery, short hop window, and sex kick. I would love for his recovery and nair to return to it's brawl state since they just all seemed better there. I just really don't think taking 12% just to recover from the shortest of distances properly balances things off with that horrible recovery of his. Even with the kill power.
Edit: Had second thoughts on the arrows since I actually can make use of them.
Edit: Had second thoughts on the arrows since I actually can make use of them.
Ecks
Smash Lord
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Most character's bones grow when using certain moves (moreso in Brawl than Melee) so having Tink do it for his nair shouldn't be that surprising. Nobody complains about how big Mario's head looks on u smash or about his arm looks on fair, so why complain about Tink?
You know what? Tink should get Falcon's Dsmash and n64 Fsmash.
You know what? Tink should get Falcon's Dsmash and n64 Fsmash.
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