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PS with half presses NOOOOOOO
is it possible to get rid of the annoying sensation in melee, where if u try to grab, it lightshields instead? its really annoying and im not sure exactly why it happens. Lightshields should be half press, as should ADing and teching, just like in melee
haha ok, if ur normal shield is so unbelievable useless and doesnt even cover your body at max strength, then yeah lightshielding is useful, but that is hardly a reason for it to be in the game.
<- G&W main in Melee
Marth edgehog?
a glitch that i agree was useful, but still is very situational. I dont understand what the original point of lightshielding was meant to be...
Correction. FULL press PS but not to the click. That is what I meant. However, in this game where PS prob won't be as hard a melee, I guess to click.
Hardly a glitch. :/
Because Marth never winds up underneath the stage.
yes they last longer, but in such a fast paced game, there is no need for such a thing. It was a worse version of the normal shield, and DK/GW will have better shields now anyway... so why is it needed again?
Sorry, I misinterpreted your glitch comment. LSing is on the lower end of important techniques to implement, I agree, but it's still useful even in high level play. While not everyone has a bad shield, if one player is pressuring another sufficiently (not uncommon) then it's handy to avoid shield pokes on your small shield by LSing.
i dont think that is true, there is generally always a better option than staying in your shield: shine, jump, wd out, even rolling. Plus isnt LS in melee slower cooldown than normal anyway?
im always open to being proved wrong
What about the LS next to the edge thing with Falco? Ever heard of that? LS-->get hit-->bair, so sexy. LS helps against chars that shield poke well (Marth for example) and it helps when your shield is small after being hit to much.
maybe im wrong, i just have never seen any real reason for it to exist. seems like a badly thought out nintendo idea to me, rather than a necessity
the theory of LS is ok, it just never seemed to be coded well
. Some people lightshield Fox's nair so that they're out of shine range, as well as lightshielding spacies' dash attacks so that they don't go behind you.
its used against falco's pillaring because it adds more hitlag and hence means the falco doesnt L-cancel? cause u can do that by tilting the normal shield as well...
It is not a worse version of the normal shield. It is a tradeoff. It is better and worse in different ways. It may give you fewer immediate retaliatory options but it also is virtually impossible to shieldpoke and it pushes you out of range of the next attack and thus gets you out of shield pressure better. Not to mention the many situational uses it has.
Watch some recent Melee matches. It gets used.
Don't forget that it also gave more shield stun as well, I'm pretty sure
It very well could just be a way to showcase the new analog shoulder buttons. But it does have a use. One could use lightshielding to prevent shield poking the lazy way. The more skilled way is to angle the hard shield. And as eveyone else said, the light shield can be used to throw off l canceling timing and to give you more space against shield pressure.
I knew you were referring to lightshield edge hogging tech as a glitch but that is completely untrue. There is this thing in the game called ASDI for shields (as well as getting hit) When you light shield against marth's up b, the up b hit imparts Shield ASDI in the direction you are holding the joystick (in this case towards the ledge) Because you are at the edge of the stage, the only place for you to go is to fall off the stage to the ledge. This also works for many many other moves like pills and even attacks.
