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when did they say they could add more characters? You mean the announcement about the clone engine? the announcement that meant "we can add Roy and Mewtwo", and not "we can add Amy Rose, and give Ganondorf a sword, and all the other ridiculous **** they post about in the clone engine thread"?
In this blog post, we'll go a bit deeper into how we might select future characters as well as the capabilities and limitations of the Clone Engine.
In this blog post, we'll go a bit deeper into how we might select future characters as well as the capabilities
In this blog post, we'll go a bit deeper into how we might select future characters
into how we might select future characters
we might select future characters
Oh and...
Finally to close things out, attentive users may have noticed we mentioned our limit of new characters earlier in this post. That limit as it stands is 7 new characters, it is the absolute max we have the potential to add currently.
 

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Oh and...
when was that announcement made? You didn't properly quote it, so i don't know what it's from. They might have been talking about Roy/Mewtwo at the time, or possibly been still considering Doc/Pichu. At this point, 3 of those are already implemented, and the 4th one is the least likely of them all, but more likely than any of the other nonsense they post about in the clone engine thread.
 

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when was that announcement made? You didn't properly quote it, so i don't know what it's from. They might have been talking about Roy/Mewtwo at the time, or possibly been still considering Doc/Pichu. At this point, 3 of those are already implemented, and the 4th one is the least likely of them all, but more likely than any of the other nonsense they post about in the clone engine thread.
Sorry, I figured everyone read that post.

It's linked here

The post was made after Roy was announced but before Mewtwo was announced.

And you seem to be heavily against any player made suggestions, going as far to write off anything that has been posted there while more than likely not reading all of it.

If the PMBR decided to go ahead and make Issac what would your stance on that be?
Would the stance change if they said that the clone engine discussion thread did not influence their decision?
Would it change if they said that the clone engine discussion did influence their decision?
 

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I don't think the clone engine discussion, tier list speculation, or the stuff on the social thread really has that much of an impact on what the PMBR does.
 

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I don't think the clone engine discussion, tier list speculation, or the stuff on the social thread really has that much of an impact on what the PMBR does.
As the PMBR are developers, I would assume so as well.

something something Artistic integrity.
something something players ideas suck
something something you can't please everyone so do what the team wants.
 

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As the PMBR are developers, I would assume so as well.

something something Artistic integrity.
something something players ideas suck
something something you can't please everyone so do what the team wants.
All that hate is unwarranted. Nobody was clamoring for the PMBR to give Mewtwo a hover, but they did, and it was excellent. At the end of the day, they are the people who call the shots. As there are more than a handful of them, they have plenty of intelligent capable people who can and do provide excellent, sometimes revolutionary ideas. From their perspective, wading through a bunch of crap to find an idea they could have come up with on their own is not very appealing.
 

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The post was made after Roy was announced but before Mewtwo was announced.
That's what I thought. They were hinting at the coming Mewtwo announcement, not a likelyhood of Shadow/Isaac/K.Rool.

If they said they were adding Isaac, I'd think it was dumb. It wouldn't really matter where they got the idea, it's still a dumb idea. Good thing they haven't done that, and certainly haven't hinted at doing it in the future. It would make PM look stupid, like it was made by kids from the smash4 discussion threads.
 

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That's what I thought. They were hinting at the coming Mewtwo announcement, not a likelyhood of Shadow/Isaac/K.Rool.

If they said they were adding Isaac, I'd think it was dumb. It wouldn't really matter where they got the idea, it's still a dumb idea. Good thing they haven't done that, and certainly haven't hinted at doing it in the future. It would make PM look stupid, like it was made by kids from the smash4 discussion threads.
Since when did 7 = 1? They were hinting that there might be more characters, not that they would only add Mewtwo. If they didn't want people knowing that they have the potential to add in 7 more characters (5 now), they wouldn't have said anything about it. Now I personally don't want Issac, but that's no reason to say that PM will suddenly be the equivalent of a group of 12 year-olds with access to Brawlbox throwing things in there at random just because they added new content that I personally did not like.
 
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That's what I thought. They were hinting at the coming Mewtwo announcement, not a likelyhood of Shadow/Isaac/K.Rool.

If they said they were adding Isaac, I'd think it was dumb. It wouldn't really matter where they got the idea, it's still a dumb idea. Good thing they haven't done that, and certainly haven't hinted at doing it in the future. It would make PM look stupid, like it was made by kids from the smash4 discussion threads.
"It would make PM look stupid."

You are implying that if they added a character that hasn't been in any other smash brothers game made by the original developers, it would be a recipe for criticism and disaster.

That's a really big double standard since they've added stages, rules, items, final smashes, and changed characters entirely to fit a new game. Why would them putting in a character that hasn't been in a different iteration of smash be a bad thing?

It doesn't make any sense to me because if Smash 4 announced Issac with a full moveset and the PMBR just copy pasted that and adjusted it to fit project M you would probably say "Oh that's okay because it's official."

Please correct me if I am interpreting this wrong.
 
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"It would make PM look stupid."

You are implying that if they added a character that hasn't been in any other smash brothers game made by the original developers, it would be a recipe for criticism and disaster.

That's a really big double standard since they've added stages, rules, items, final smashes, and changed characters entirely to fit a new game. Why would them putting in a character that hasn't been in a different iteration of smash be a bad thing?

It doesn't make any sense to me because if Smash 4 announced Issac with a full moveset and the PMBR just copy pasted that and adjusted it to fit project M you would probably say "Oh that's okay because it's official."

Please correct me if I am interpreting this wrong.
I would not think isaac is fine for PM if he was in smash4. I think it would be dumb if they added megaman, or villager, or wiifit trainer, and those are already announced. PM already has what, 41 characters? How many more do you want? At a certain point, it gets ridiculous.
 

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I would not think isaac is fine for PM if he was in smash4. I think it would be dumb if they added megaman, or villager, or wiifit trainer, and those are already announced. PM already has what, 41 characters? How many more do you want? At a certain point, it gets ridiculous.
So you're on the side of "We have enough characters."

From that statement alone though, I can assume that you don't care what the character can bring to the game, but rather that the character doesn't come at all.

I'll leave it as that as it's your opinion.

We also had a discussion about specific people's cutoff points for characters. I'm a guy who likes more variety and having a great amount of variety is not a bad thing to me. 50 is my cutoff point, but I am not complaining if they stop at 41 either.

I thought that the HRC glass wall was removed in 3.0?
I don't have it on 3.01. Not sure about 3.0
 
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All that hate is unwarranted. Nobody was clamoring for the PMBR to give Mewtwo a hover, but they did, and it was excellent. At the end of the day, they are the people who call the shots. As there are more than a handful of them, they have plenty of intelligent capable people who can and do provide excellent, sometimes revolutionary ideas. From their perspective, wading through a bunch of crap to find an idea they could have come up with on their own is not very appealing.
You know I misinterpreted that post like 7 times when I kept reading it.

Now I realized that the first statement was directed at me. I was just providing some potential reasons of why people might think that player ideas might not be a good thing.

As for the that last statement, inspiration can come from a lot of different things in life, whether it be from a beautiful mosaic painting or a homeless man sleeping in an alley. Not to say that everyone's ideas are good, but it wouldn't hurt to just look and see if there is anything interesting.

I am sure they do this though. Them taking any of it to heart is a different story.
 
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Personally, I like the idea of going up to 45 or 46 characters. I don't need more than that, and I'd be fine if we don't get any more. But part of the excitement that came with updates to Project M since I started playing with 2.0 was "Oh sweet, they're adding in new characters".

Minor changes, bug fixes, etc are nice. But won't get people as excited as new stages, costumes, and characters unless it was something gamebreaking.
 

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Sonic isn't as cool as Shadow. If an alternative costume were to also switch out the running animation (to the super cool hover boot scating), then It would pry effect hurtboxes to be thus either better or worse compared to Sonic's as well as the speed might have to been changed to look normal. Is this possible? It's not asking for that much. Everything else would just easily be more awesome with black/yellow trails for moves and Shadow's sound effects.

I thought that the HRC glass wall was removed in 3.0?
Why was it intended to be removed?

I did a down-b on smashville with CF and I somehow cancelled it quickly into a roll, I thought only Ganon had something like that?

Also Roys jump noises are annoying, how bout he only makes that sound if you hold taunt when you jump lol
 
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Roy's sounds are part of his metagame. Their optimal use is to annoy the living **** out of your oppenent as you juggle them for days with shffled uairs.

Oddly enough, it seems Roy mains hardly notice his welps when they play him until someone points it out.
 
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