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Soft Serve

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Man, was in the middle of writing and essay and damn fire alarm. This is really frustrating.

I think i have my priorties straight, i grabbed my phone, keys, ids, and my gamecube controller.
 

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That's an odd way to spell Cr1tikal.
Please. Shofu GETS criticals like he does *******; easily!
When any other 'Mon personality does this game and makes it worth every bit of time spent:
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When anyone else can make that(admittedly already not badly funny mod) completely worth watching, then comparisons can be drawn.

Shadow is the coolest sonic character, he's got swag written all over him. He's also got attitude.
I dunno about that; Knuckles has all those rap ____ (insert cool thing here; i.e. RAP car RAP bike etc., you get the idea LOL).

you don't know shofu? Allow me to introduce you to the greatest youtuber of all time http://www.youtube.com/user/shofu
Greatest YOUTUBER?
Greatest LetPlayer, too.
No contest.

Neggas ain't got mah swegger
Nah we don't. You right.

Guys I just learned how to whistle omg this is amazing
It really is a profound feeling. I remember when I learned; it was... I can't ascribe any one word to what I felt right then.

Damn I was pretty salty when I got bopped by Rob, but even I wasn't acting like a little ***** about it.

He actually reminds me of my sc2 days
Terrain No Skill! Terrain Op! Zerg Op! Blah blah blab
This is why people should take Ls with as much dignity as possible; you look and sound like kid throwing a tantrum otherwise.

Pff, only? I am disappoint.
Indeed. Canada(not me, but I've heard some BS), Chicago, and various parts of the globe above a certain latitude range laugh at Southerner's intolerance for real adverse weather.

Am I the only one who thinks the roster is perfect as is right now or what?
Nope. Smashers need to quit ******** about GOOD things, sometimes my species(that's right, HUMANS, not any one facet of them) has me feeling ashamed of my own kind.

Thanks for responding.

Semi related thought:
A certain part of me feels like playing PM necessitates playing a new character. I understand that's not the case, but sometimes I feel like playing a Melee top tier is either too boring or a waste of time. Every time I boot the game I want to play someone completely unique to PM, not someone I could play the same in Melee or Brawl. Does anyone else feel this way?
Not necessarily, but I can understand the sentiment; your old Melee main is completely different, they're not as good now, etc., the list goes on..
For me, Donkey Kong and Samus are the same to play, but they're super cheap now(DK Fair is a legitimate move for stuff besides killing. I don't even)

UMVC3 Kappa Kappa Kappa

But at least the game is fun to watch.
I see and agree with what I made visible(Man up and do it visibly next time.)
For the first part, it's a good thing opinions are never absolute, otherwise they'd be facts. We'd be retgone(never existed, i.e. Beast Wars S2 ending if a Big Damn Heroes wasn't pulled) within the minute.
 

Soft Serve

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Edit: smashboards why you make me and mechwarrior double post >.>

double edit: **** it corrected itself

I forgot what I was even going to say in the first place
 
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Soft Serve

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Oh I remember

9K is just waiting until he has around 50 pages of material to like.

The day of reckoning is nigh.
 

Soft Serve

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9k arrives when we talk about competitive Pokemon.

Maybe if we do that we can summon him and beg for forgiveness.
Ill start
Ou is a ****fest

Uu beta on showdown is really fun, now with bisharp ou and staraptor/scolipede in bl i think its starting to settle into stall teams and bulky set up teams with one or two stall breakers that act as good pivot. Darmanitan and victini still wreck since chancy /mega aggron cores are popular, and there isnt a bulky water that deals with both very well. Swampert doesnt have recovery, slowbro and pringles ghost wall darm but get bodied by victini if it runes an electric coverage move. Vaperon covers both well but i dont think it fits well otherwise in the meta, its roles as cleric/wish passer are done better by florges, chansey and umbreon, and it doesnt hit hard enough to be a bulky pivot like slowbro and such.
 

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Ha. The damn Washing Machine WOULD be first and of course Genesect brings up the rear.

Lower tiers than OU might just be worst based solely on the fact that you can prepare for less and the chance of getting gimmicked (which is already wholly possible in OU) goes higher.
 

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There's still some lingering "oh god this should be Uber" in OU, being basically Mega Lucario for sure and maybe Genesect (I could go either way on him personally), but aside from that I think OU is shaping up pretty well.
I'm at least enjoying things far more than last gen OU.
 

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Dean gets all of my ups.

There's still some lingering "oh god this should be Uber" in OU, being basically Mega Lucario for sure and maybe Genesect (I could go either way on him personally), but aside from that I think OU is shaping up pretty well.
I'm at least enjoying things far more than last gen OU.
The more I read about the Smogon tier changes, the more it turns me off. It's cool to have strategies and whatnot laid out for their particular ruleset, but the particulars on how it arrived at some of those rulesets are a combination of grimy and scrubby.

Like, I can appreciate trying to make sense of Nintendo's chaotic mess of a battle system, since Nintendo doesn't care much to streamline and optimize things themselves, but going to their forums reading their decision-making process -- gets pretty sketchy sometimes.
 
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The more I read about the Smogon tier changes, the more it turns me off. It's cool to have strategies and whatnot laid out for their particular ruleset, but the particulars on how it arrived at some of those rulesets are a combination of grimy and scrubby.

Like, I can appreciate trying to make sense of Nintendo's chaotic mess of a battle system, since Nintendo doesn't care much to streamline and optimize things themselves, but going to their forums reading their decision-making process -- gets pretty sketchy sometimes.
I'm curious about which decisions you'd call sketchy. I'm not saying you're wrong; I'm just curious.
 

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Dear god the past two pages.... see this is why I should never sleep. I always miss the best stuff
 

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I'm curious about which decisions you'd call sketchy. I'm not saying you're wrong; I'm just curious.
"This Pokemon or mechanic makes the game too centralizing and makes X, Y, and Z Pokemon virtually unviable, but we were totally fine with Stealth Rock for two gens even though every team is will run it while Rock-weak Pokemon, especially those 4x weak, are forced to team up with a spinner just to stay alive."

Manaphy was ridiculous under perma-rain, so it got banned. Thundurus was ridiculous under perma-rain (among other things), so he got banned. Tornadus-T was ridiculous in perma-rain (among other things) and was banned. Keldeo's been suspected multiple times because it's ridiculous in perma-rain. Swift Swimmers were ridiculous in rain, so let's just ban Drizzle and Swift Swim from being used on the same team. Were they really this desperate to keep Drizzle in OU when it was obviously an overcentralizing force by itself? Just ban Drizzle and things like this wouldn't happen. Rain was the most dominant weather, and every team had to prepare for it and/or pack a weather-inducer just to stand a chance. Hell, Gastrodon was only useful in OU BECAUSE of how good it dealt with perma-rain, not because it was a good Pokemon on its own merits. I know it must be hard for them to part with their precious rain-stall team they peaked the ladder with, but if something is toxic to the metagame, you get rid of it, not beat around the bush. Thank goodness GameFreak took matters into their own hands and removed permanent weather, otherwise we'd still be playing Gen 5 OU, guest starring Gen 6 pokes.

I'll agree with Plum though that they've done a solid job with this gen. So far.
 
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The smart thing to do would be to ban legendaries in battles. You know, like Nintendo does.

But oops, I forgot Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing, apparently.
 

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I actually agreed with the decisions with Smogon so far with the pokes got banned all expect the suspect testing of M-Lucario so far. Doesn't matter with me cause I've been playing UBERS for a few days now and most folks are kinda booty.

Edit: Speaking of Gen 5 OU aside from weather everywhere I kinda like it with all of the hard hitting pokes running around that 5th gen gave us. but then again my main team in OU was made a team to deal with weather but smart play of Gliscor and Venasuar made me cry :( .
 
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The smart thing to do would be to ban legendaries in battles. You know, like Nintendo does.

But oops, I forgot Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing, apparently.
Nintendo only bans certain legendaries, not all of them. Even they can see something like Zapdos isn't broken.
 
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The smart thing to do would be to ban legendaries in battles. You know, like Nintendo does.

But oops, I forgot Nintendo doesn't know what they're doing, apparently.
this would be incredibly dumb, though. only a handful of legendaries are actually broken, and in many cases some are flat-out sticking around NU, like Regigigas
 

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this would be incredibly dumb, though. only a handful of legendaries are actually broken, and in many cases some are flat-out sticking around NU, like Regigigas
What? Slow-start is the BEST ability ever. I'm actually sad that Trace can't copy ally abilities. Mega-Alakazam with Slow-Start? OP all day.
 

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regigigas actually has pretty great stats, it's just that you have to set up an entire concept around him for it to work, and god help you if the other team has even one fighting-type move that can laugh through his bulk

he's high input needed for a decent output, in a game with characters that only need decent input for amazing output
 

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What? Slow-start is the BEST ability ever. I'm actually sad that Trace can't copy ally abilities. Mega-Alakazam with Slow-Start? OP all day.
Isn't there a move that allows you to switch abilities with your opponent?

Someone play netplay with me
USA, preferably between Midwest and EC
When I get home from school, we could play a few.

Ok I was trying to come up with a cheesy pun about your name, but I got nothing this time :( I'm sorry I let you down man.
 
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Nintendo only bans certain legendaries, not all of them. Even they can see something like Zapdos is not broken.
Yeah, but legendaries are still just sort of boring, you know? Every legal legendary is good because it has big stats, not because it offers anything unique or interesting to the table. There's also a part of my brain that thinks it's weird when the games imply that there's only one of something, and then you go out, and... your friends all have them, too. Bleh.

I don't think Zapdos is broken, but I'd rather see it banned and see one of many other Electric types take its place on a team.

this would be incredibly dumb, though. only a handful of legendaries are actually broken, and in many cases some are flat-out sticking around NU, like Regigigas
If by many you mean... less than ten percent of them, then yes, I agree. But something tells me you did not, so...

The large majority of the legendary pokemon are powerful enough that they overshadow other pokemon of the same type or purpose. The fact that they're so powerful isn't the problem - it's that they're powerful enough to justify using them in many cases, in which case one has to ask what the point of competitive pokemon playing is if the metagame were to revolve around a short list of suffocatingly powerful pokemon?

I believe that a strategy game, like pokemon, should be designed in such a capacity where you can make almost anything work (this is also why I think it's a bunch of crabapples that there are so many weak pokemon with no redeeming qualities [Beedrill!]), and the game is really boring if it's just a numbers slugfest between the toughest possible dudes.
 

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If by many you mean... less than ten percent of them, then yes, I agree. But something tells me you did not, so...

The large majority of the legendary pokemon are powerful enough that they overshadow other pokemon of the same type or purpose. The fact that they're so powerful isn't the problem - it's that they're powerful enough to justify using them in many cases, in which case one has to ask what the point of competitive pokemon playing is if the metagame were to revolve around a short list of suffocatingly powerful pokemon?

I believe that a strategy game, like pokemon, should be designed in such a capacity where you can make almost anything work (this is also why I think it's a bunch of crabapples that there are so many weak pokemon with no redeeming qualities [Beedrill!]), and the game is really boring if it's just a numbers slugfest between the toughest possible dudes.
1. I used a single worst-case example, try comparing Uber to OU and lower next time
2. lmao if you think any OU legendary is any more overbearing than some mega pokemon
 

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1. I used a single worst-case example, try comparing Uber to OU and lower next time
I don't keep up with Smogon's tier lists, because I'm not a goddamn sperglord.

2. lmao if you think any OU legendary is any more overbearing than some mega pokemon
Mega evolution is a mechanic whereupon you sacrifice a significant thing - held item - for bigger stats and a different ability. It's an interesting mechanic because you have to weigh the pros and cons. You have to strategize. You have to actually think.

Legal legendaries may not have statpools quite as large as some legendaries, but they also get access to those pools at all times, for free - and they're not limited to one per team/battle. They're just Big Numbers, whereas megapokemon are Big Numbers With A Price. I'd much rather see a metagame dominated by megaevolutions than I would one dominated by snoozefest legendaries.
 
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