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Bambi_
King of the Forest
Man, why does it seem like this forum tries to crunch everything into the minimum possible number of threads. Like the ideology is "if you could talk about this in another thread without everyone going bazerk, you have to, or you get locked." Like damn, it's okay to have a thread that's more specific than another thread.
Case in point
Case in point
Burnsy
Smash Lord
Because no fun allowed, damn it! We're here to talk about a childrens' party game. How are we supposed to do that without strict organization?
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Because redundant threads take up space and fill the board with clutter.
Burnsy
Smash Lord
Yea, as a serious answer, there were tons of "more specific" threads that aimed to discuss particular aspects of the clone and alt engine and it floods the general forum. Another issue is that while these threads may be started with intentions of covering a specific topic related to these engines, they would soon devolve into general clone/alt costume engine talk, and become redundant.
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PSA for those who USB load Project M using CFG
OK so check this out it's awesome. So, those of us who USB load for whatever reason know that you can't use the official PM launcher. And if you're anything like me you also use BootMii so you can get into Project M without needing a Wiimote.
I am an efficient (lazy) person. I was growing tired of loading up the Homebrew Channel, choosing CFG, choosing the game, and hitting Start. That's too many steps if all I want is to load the Brawl ISO every time.
There is a way to make a Homebrew app that straight loads the Brawl ISO (RSBE01) with just one press of the A button and it is very easy to make yourself.
You can just download this zip file I made. Inside the zip file is a folder called pmloader, put that folder into your apps folder on your SD card. Boom, done. This one only works with CFG Loader. There may be ways to do this for other USB Loaders but I use CFG (and so should you) so that's what I got here.
If you don't trust me, or what to do this yourself, or want to know how it is accomplished, read on:
OK so check this out it's awesome. So, those of us who USB load for whatever reason know that you can't use the official PM launcher. And if you're anything like me you also use BootMii so you can get into Project M without needing a Wiimote.
I am an efficient (lazy) person. I was growing tired of loading up the Homebrew Channel, choosing CFG, choosing the game, and hitting Start. That's too many steps if all I want is to load the Brawl ISO every time.
There is a way to make a Homebrew app that straight loads the Brawl ISO (RSBE01) with just one press of the A button and it is very easy to make yourself.
You can just download this zip file I made. Inside the zip file is a folder called pmloader, put that folder into your apps folder on your SD card. Boom, done. This one only works with CFG Loader. There may be ways to do this for other USB Loaders but I use CFG (and so should you) so that's what I got here.
If you don't trust me, or what to do this yourself, or want to know how it is accomplished, read on:
Go into the apps folder on your SD card and copy the USBLoader_cfg folder, the entire thing. Rename it something like "pmloader" or whatever. Go into the new folder and edit the meta.xml file with something like Notepad++ and add the following lines (I chose to add them between </long_description> and </app>
You can change the RSBE01 to any Wii code to launch any game this way. You can keep making copies of the folder and have them all simultaneously too!
I would also suggest changing the icon.png file so you can tell it apart from the regular CFG loader, but that's it. When you select this new app in the Homebrew Channel it will automatically load the Brawl ISO and start Project M. One button!
Code:
<arguments>
<arg>RSBE01</arg>
</arguments>I would also suggest changing the icon.png file so you can tell it apart from the regular CFG loader, but that's it. When you select this new app in the Homebrew Channel it will automatically load the Brawl ISO and start Project M. One button!
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Bambi_
King of the Forest
I love you, man
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
turns out zelgadis lives really close by. should hopefully be able to get practice against fox/falco now :D
inb4 skumbag zelgadis jokes
Nguz95
Smash Lord
Standardtoaster, who do you play? Are you a Sheik main in PM too?
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
I hope you go blind Toaster. For the both of us.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
mainly marth, sheik, fox
so something i've been thinking about:
what purpose is served by super long jump squats? i'm talking about the ddd, ganon, bowser range of jumpsquats.
i understand the 3framers are supposed to be harder to use, since you need to be more precise to get short hops. but, the flipside is you get to leave the ground (and thus, jump oos) earlier, so your aerials can hit earlier, etc... the downside of harder jump cancelled usmash is pretty moot since you can now just run-usmash without the middleman.
and then up to the 5framers, it's much easier to hop, but you have to wait that little bit longer to get your aerials started up and etc...
but, past that, what is the tactical trade off? needing to wait 7-9 frames before leaving the ground just seems absolutely terrible with no real benefit to it at all.
(and i know this isn't the pmbr's fault. i'm just wondering if someone has any good theories about the long jump squats).
what purpose is served by super long jump squats? i'm talking about the ddd, ganon, bowser range of jumpsquats.
i understand the 3framers are supposed to be harder to use, since you need to be more precise to get short hops. but, the flipside is you get to leave the ground (and thus, jump oos) earlier, so your aerials can hit earlier, etc... the downside of harder jump cancelled usmash is pretty moot since you can now just run-usmash without the middleman.
and then up to the 5framers, it's much easier to hop, but you have to wait that little bit longer to get your aerials started up and etc...
but, past that, what is the tactical trade off? needing to wait 7-9 frames before leaving the ground just seems absolutely terrible with no real benefit to it at all.
(and i know this isn't the pmbr's fault. i'm just wondering if someone has any good theories about the long jump squats).
Nguz95
Smash Lord
Thanks for responding.
Semi related thought:
A certain part of me feels like playing PM necessitates playing a new character. I understand that's not the case, but sometimes I feel like playing a Melee top tier is either too boring or a waste of time. Every time I boot the game I want to play someone completely unique to PM, not someone I could play the same in Melee or Brawl. Does anyone else feel this way?
Semi related thought:
A certain part of me feels like playing PM necessitates playing a new character. I understand that's not the case, but sometimes I feel like playing a Melee top tier is either too boring or a waste of time. Every time I boot the game I want to play someone completely unique to PM, not someone I could play the same in Melee or Brawl. Does anyone else feel this way?
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Dakpo
Smash Lord
Lol forgot about teams. Yea, I did use DDD in teams depending on the match-up. But I only go GnW in Singles.
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Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
I always felt this way especially to characters who were low to mid tier in melee or in brawl like Zelda, Ganondorf and Roy. This was true for me especially for earlier builds of the game cause I refused to play melee mains cause of the physics and landing detection in which the PMBR was still figuring out and working out the kinks.
EDIT: Because of Project M I picked up Ganon just for flame choke and earlier builds it was godlike as well as I was a wi-fi warrior so I couldn't play my Marth or Falco without me messing up my technical stuff due to lag and such.
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Paradoxium
Smash Master
Sorry but i can't agree with that. I find the top tiers interesting, and fun to watch. You see, i loved melee, but hated how half of the cast was obsolete. For me, pm was an expansion of melee, i wanted my mains to be carried over and balanced accordingly because i devoted a lot of time into them in melee. Endless amounts of techs and strategies are within the melee top tiers, erasing all of that just doesn't seem right. And lastly, a lot of people enjoy the playing as them, they all have their own unique move sets. To me they are like any other pm character
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Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
It's a balancing thing to an extent. Bowser can Up-B out of shield; he's not meant to nair out of shield or have other such options because he's designed to be better at some things than others.
I know I don't want Zelda to have a fast Nayru's or death kicks out of shield.
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PMS | LEVEL 100 MAGIKARP
Hologram Summer Again
all I can say is that it makes characters feel fat. Which was probably nintendo's goal when they originally instituted it and nobody has really thought about changing it.
Wolf_
Smash Journeyman
does netplay mess up your tech-skill when you go back to playing on the wii?
Nguz95
Smash Lord
I directed this more toward Melee top tiers. I guess a better explanation of the idea is I find Fox, Falco, Marth, Sheik, Peach, Jiggs, and Cfal bland and uninteresting because their respective metagames are fully developed. Melee vets who have been completely retooled are fascinating to me, as I they have much more unexplored content to mess around with. Ganon and Pikachu are excellent examples of this. While the option to play them the same as their Melee counterparts is available, there is a huge amount of new metagame you can explore. Ganon has a new side-b, more options to approach with, and a more fleshed out bait game than he did in Melee. Pikachu has QAC and new aerials that can drastically alter the way the character acts in neutral. Both of these characters were solid in Melee, but now that they have been altered in PM, playing them is much more rewarding and engaging. In the same vein, Brawl characters are brand new to me, and are equally interesting.
Hopefully I explained my thoughts a little better this time around.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
No, especially not if you use a GCC and an adaptor
But even using an 360 controller isn't too bad so long as you regularly spend time on a FCC to stay fluid
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Paradoxium
Smash Master
Why does everyone think Pikachu is boring? I don't understand! Someone explain this to me!You picked Ganon and Pikachu, aka boring and boring-er.
Lamar Davis
Smash Cadet
Neggas ain't got mah swegger
I understand where you're coming from. I dont think that playing melee characters is a waste of time, there is still things to flesh out ie stages, as well as 41 matchups instread of 7 or 8 . The fundamentals od the characters are certainly advanced, but their imteractions with the rest of the game in unique to pm.
Bambi_
King of the Forest
Too evolved.
TimeSmash
Smash Champion
Can't be sure if this is a Pichu reference or not...
Alfonzo Bagpipez
Smash Lord
Maybe Brawl Pikachu left a bad taste in everyone's mouths...
Haven't people seen Axe?
Bambi_
King of the Forest
Clearly we haven't been acquainted.
TimeSmash
Smash Champion
Clearly not, Stoned Bambi. =P
Nemiak temp
Smash Apprentice
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Netplay will have a minuscule amount of lag compared to in-person play so there will be a slight difference whether it's noticeable or not. Though I'd be curious to try it out.
EDIT: So it may or may not affect your tech-consistancy between on and offline play. Knowing you I'm sure you would notice the difference.
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TimeSmash
Smash Champion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbtPXFlZlHg I feel like 2:53 of this video reflects your views perfectly
Empyrean
Smash Champion
I dunno why exactly, but I just find playing with and against Pika to be incredibly boring, even with QAC, in the same vein people find Zelda to be extremely boring (I don't lol). I don't however have anything to support this boringness, it's just a gut feeling. Maybe because his moves aren't really cool or something?? idk....
Sorry for the late response, but these are it:
ATI Radeon HD 4250 (which is the equivalent of HD 3400, so ya, pretty ****ty)
AMD Phenom II X4 820 processor
6 GB of Ram
Anything else I need to mention?
Alfonzo Bagpipez
Smash Lord
Wolf_
Smash Journeyman
This guy lol, guaranteed I'd notice any miniscule amount of lag, but yeah I might try it out
Adapter? You can plug a GCC into your computer?
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
yeah, with a mayflash usb adaptor
He's not a character that does anything "flashy." You can try to make arguments for QAC but the reality of QAC is that it's not all that good. People have been saying for years now that somebody will break QAC and that will break open Pikachu's game... Yeah, still waiting.
Pikachu just comes down to just doing fundamentals well, and that's just kind of boring.