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Prof. Oak's Lab: The Q&A Thread - USE THIS
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Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11268448&postcount=558
Doesn't matter right now, though. The server is on hold at current.
Doesn't matter right now, though. The server is on hold at current.
PowerBomb
Smash Master
I see. When will it be back up?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
I just checked. It's back up now.
PowerBomb
Smash Master
Got it to work. Huzzah
We just select B/W from the drop down menu, right?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it. Going under Garydos Test or w/e.
We just select B/W from the drop down menu, right?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it. Going under Garydos Test or w/e.
JOE!
Smash Hero
what is better on Skarm? Roar or Whirlwind?
flyinfilipino
Smash Master
Whirlwind won't be negated by Soundproof like Roar will. However, Whirlwind is an Egg Move while Roar is just a TM.
Charmander
Smash Champion
What happens when a pokemon with Mischievious Heart uses Roar/Whirlwind?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
It gets +1 priority. As in, Whirlwind has like -6 so a Mischevious Heart use gives Whirlwind -5.
Charmander
Smash Champion
Dammit, I thought I had something there >.<
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
That's why you use Rest / Sleep Talk / Roar / Whirlwind Aerodactyl.
Pokemon Trainer1
Smash Apprentice
Powerbomb, you're sig is awesome
And that's a good point Terywj
And that's a good point Terywj
PowerBomb
Smash Master
Hey, does anyone know what server UltiMario was talking about? It was a 5th gen server that wasn't Machamp's Pants. What download do we need for that server?
Pokemon Trainer1
Smash Apprentice
The first post on page 111 made by Wrath has a link to something. That might be it.
JOE!
Smash Hero
would a poke with 95 in every stat be stupidly good?
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
No.
Most Pokes with 100 all around are OU, and Shaymin was even BL. Base 95 all around is pretty bad actually. You lose in speed to base 100s (and newfound numbers inbetween like 97(Ononokusu) and 98(Sazandora)). Base 95/95/95 Defenses are actually pretty good in terms of bulk (assuming you have the typing to use it), but 95/95 Attacking stats are just BARELY usable.
Most Pokes with 100 all around are OU, and Shaymin was even BL. Base 95 all around is pretty bad actually. You lose in speed to base 100s (and newfound numbers inbetween like 97(Ononokusu) and 98(Sazandora)). Base 95/95/95 Defenses are actually pretty good in terms of bulk (assuming you have the typing to use it), but 95/95 Attacking stats are just BARELY usable.
JOE!
Smash Hero
even for a dragon/steel?
As you may have noticed this is for a fakemon concept I have...
which also comes with two signature moves:
Then there'd be an option to also get it with Regeneration (comes with Volt Change)
The concept is that Sliph Co. manufactured a pokemon to be an expert fighter, to sell to trainers in need of extra "oomph" on their team. It can be found in the Physical, Special and Tank varieties based upon how you evolve it's 1st stage.
This stage is pure steel wth 64 per stat, and has Multiscale as it's ability. You get it at level 25 by buying it from Sliph Co., then you must find another Sliph Co. employee once the poke has reached 45 in order to evolve it to the next model. It will always have a neutral nature.
Through breeding the final form, you can obtain it's baby form, a pure dragon wth 33 per stat, and the ability "Imprint", which gives it x2 EVs per fight. This evolves at 25. Through breeding you can also get it a nature.
although the in-game stuff is kindof irellavent, with the typing, abilities and movepool, would the stats make it too powerful/underpowered/etc?
As you may have noticed this is for a fakemon concept I have...
which also comes with two signature moves:
and
However, it only gets 1 based on what ability you get it with:
This makes Ripper do an automatic 37% hp along with being a 112.5 BP attack, and makes attacks like Fury Swipes do a possible 62.5%
This means things like Dragon Pulse, iron Wave, Shockwave and even Vacuum wave can become rather devestating.
Then there'd be an option to also get it with Regeneration (comes with Volt Change)
The concept is that Sliph Co. manufactured a pokemon to be an expert fighter, to sell to trainers in need of extra "oomph" on their team. It can be found in the Physical, Special and Tank varieties based upon how you evolve it's 1st stage.
This stage is pure steel wth 64 per stat, and has Multiscale as it's ability. You get it at level 25 by buying it from Sliph Co., then you must find another Sliph Co. employee once the poke has reached 45 in order to evolve it to the next model. It will always have a neutral nature.
Through breeding the final form, you can obtain it's baby form, a pure dragon wth 33 per stat, and the ability "Imprint", which gives it x2 EVs per fight. This evolves at 25. Through breeding you can also get it a nature.
although the in-game stuff is kindof irellavent, with the typing, abilities and movepool, would the stats make it too powerful/underpowered/etc?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
The issue with base 95 stats all-around is that while your distribution is even, you aren't specifically amazing in a given stat. As UltiMario pointed out, 95 / 95 defenses will be beneficial with a superior defensive typing, but with "below average" attacking stats and decent speed you won't be ridiculously amazing.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
Yes, even for Dragon/Steel.
Combining the two best types in the game doesn't mean it makes a great type. I guess those are some pretty OK resistances, but 95 all around just means it's one of the slowest, weakest, and STILL not the bulkiest Dragon.
Combining the two best types in the game doesn't mean it makes a great type. I guess those are some pretty OK resistances, but 95 all around just means it's one of the slowest, weakest, and STILL not the bulkiest Dragon.
JOE!
Smash Hero
are you comparing it to psuedos/legends?
as it's meant to be not one of those...
sides, the point is that while it may not be as bulky as X, fast as Y or tough as Z, it then has other stats that are better or equal to all those examples...
that and buffing it to all 100's would be boring
EDIT:
as for bulk, lets compare it to the other dragons:
Dnite: About Equal, Dnite has 5 more spec def, but 5 less hp... much less resistances and the ice achilles heel. Dnite is tougher for the 1st hit probably, but with entry hazards multi scale doesnt work <.<
Altaria: 10 more spec def, but 5 less def and 20 less HP, see Dnite for resistances.
Mence: Same HP, 15 less defenses. Mence has more defense on the switch, but only for that poke, and has the resistance/weakness issue as the others
Latias: 15 less HP, 5 less Def, but 35 more spec def...5 weaknesses vs 2
Latios: 15 less HP and Def, 15 more specdef. 5 weakness vs 2
Chomp: 13 more HP, same def, 10 less special. Achilles heel in ice, only 3 resists...
Kingdra: Same except 10 less HP, 3 resists...
Flygon: 15 less all, and see Chomp.
Sazandora: 3 less hp, 5 less defenses. Has levitate, but doesnt resist SR
Ononokuso: 19 less HP, 5 less def, 25 less spec def. Only 4 resists
Crimgan: 18 less hp, 5 less defenses. See Ono.
Soooo...outside of ubers, Dnite with no hazards, and Mence on the switch....it seems my guy is actually OVER-ALL bulkier... it also gets REGENERATION
Edit 2: It's actually tougher than Rayquaza, but the other uber-dragons outclass it completley
as it's meant to be not one of those...
sides, the point is that while it may not be as bulky as X, fast as Y or tough as Z, it then has other stats that are better or equal to all those examples...
that and buffing it to all 100's would be boring
EDIT:
as for bulk, lets compare it to the other dragons:
Dnite: About Equal, Dnite has 5 more spec def, but 5 less hp... much less resistances and the ice achilles heel. Dnite is tougher for the 1st hit probably, but with entry hazards multi scale doesnt work <.<
Altaria: 10 more spec def, but 5 less def and 20 less HP, see Dnite for resistances.
Mence: Same HP, 15 less defenses. Mence has more defense on the switch, but only for that poke, and has the resistance/weakness issue as the others
Latias: 15 less HP, 5 less Def, but 35 more spec def...5 weaknesses vs 2
Latios: 15 less HP and Def, 15 more specdef. 5 weakness vs 2
Chomp: 13 more HP, same def, 10 less special. Achilles heel in ice, only 3 resists...
Kingdra: Same except 10 less HP, 3 resists...
Flygon: 15 less all, and see Chomp.
Sazandora: 3 less hp, 5 less defenses. Has levitate, but doesnt resist SR
Ononokuso: 19 less HP, 5 less def, 25 less spec def. Only 4 resists
Crimgan: 18 less hp, 5 less defenses. See Ono.
Soooo...outside of ubers, Dnite with no hazards, and Mence on the switch....it seems my guy is actually OVER-ALL bulkier... it also gets REGENERATION
Edit 2: It's actually tougher than Rayquaza, but the other uber-dragons outclass it completley
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Then what's the point of making an essentially weaker state?
Buffing the base stats to 100 would also make it better
JOE!
Smash Hero
Making it all 100's would make it just another Pseudo...
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
Except you're Ground and Fighting weak as well as Fire Neutral. You lost one of Dragon's most important resistances and gained horrible weaknesses.
Or alternatively you could stop sucking and give your fakemon a different spread. Maybe one with like 120 Defense to take all that (mostly physical) **** thrown at it.
Something like 70/120/120/55/100/105, BST 570. Yeah. That's more like it.
Or alternatively you could stop sucking and give your fakemon a different spread. Maybe one with like 120 Defense to take all that (mostly physical) **** thrown at it.
Something like 70/120/120/55/100/105, BST 570. Yeah. That's more like it.
JOE!
Smash Hero
that renders Power Boost rather moot....
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
You know. We could be helping you a lot better off if you actually explained what Power Boost is.
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
I like how Joe edited that one post making us look like idiots even though we weren't idiots then.
Also Razor Edge would be a broken ability even if he had a base attack stat of 1. I'm completely serious. 37% damage JUST by attacking is rediculous. With even a 95 Attack stat with an ability like that, it means you OHKO or 2HKO a good chunk of the game because it's not hard to do the other 63% damage.
Also Razor Edge would be a broken ability even if he had a base attack stat of 1. I'm completely serious. 37% damage JUST by attacking is rediculous. With even a 95 Attack stat with an ability like that, it means you OHKO or 2HKO a good chunk of the game because it's not hard to do the other 63% damage.
JOE!
Smash Hero
it's only with Ripper, which is then resisted by all waters, steels, etc...
But thats also a reason I wnat to keep the stats "tame" comparitivley, the abilities are just awesomesauce
also, i edited at a time when you all could have seen it prior to your first post after it...
But thats also a reason I wnat to keep the stats "tame" comparitivley, the abilities are just awesomesauce
also, i edited at a time when you all could have seen it prior to your first post after it...
JOE!
Smash Hero
now do you agree with the rather "stale" stat spread?
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
This guy@Choice Scarf
Jolly/Razor Whatever
4HP/252Atk/252Spe
Multi-hit Steel whatever
Filler
Filler
Filler
You outspeed most of the game, then you just about 2HKO the most game as well, if not OHKO.
Jolly/Razor Whatever
4HP/252Atk/252Spe
Multi-hit Steel whatever
Filler
Filler
Filler
You outspeed most of the game, then you just about 2HKO the most game as well, if not OHKO.
JOE!
Smash Hero
yet you said it got screwed over in speed and it cant hit hard 
UltiMario
Out of Obscurity
That was before you made it so that it dealt 37% Minimum every hit, and 74% every two hits, with a move strong enough so even Skarmory can't even avoid getting 2HKO'd.
A +0 Resisted Physical move Skarmory gets 2HKO'd by with lefties.
NO.
A +0 Resisted Physical move Skarmory gets 2HKO'd by with lefties.
NO.
JOE!
Smash Hero
instead of flipping out, just turn the 1/8th to 1/16th. turns the 37% to 18.5%
or you could just swap in heatran or Infernape and kick it's ***
or you could just swap in heatran or Infernape and kick it's ***
JOE!
Smash Hero
on the other hand, you act like its amazing to be able to 2HKO Skarmory, that and you forgot that its a steel attack thats resisted PER HIT with 25 BP and only backed by 95 attk
M.K
Level 55
The closest thing I can think of that has those kind of stats is Kingdra. It's hard to attribute it's usage to it's stats when it has other things going for it (Great typing, workable moves, etc.).