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Wolf is not a clone... ?
Awh hell nah.
Stopped reading at Waluigi. Come on.
It's more likely and less pleasurable than you think.
Considering how you showed up in Smash Daddy's own Waluigi thread to argue against his chances and express how much you dislike him, as well as confirming your distaste when he made it to the top of your poll, this is incredibly hypocritical coming from you.So essentially you don't want Krystal in smash? Why are you here? Why is anyone who doesn't want or not like Krystal in the Krystal thread? Kind of silly.
Regardless, why make that point against him when you've done the same exact thing?There's a reason you don't see me in there anymore.
Sorry, least the guy has proven to have a Niche and has been in enough games that I enjoyed in my youth.
Wario stuff? Wario has one character, as do Yoshi and F-Zero. That's two less than Star Fox has right now before Krystal is added. If we're going to use Sakurai quotes, can I suggest we use ones from the past few years at least. Anything beyond that, probably have little relevance to current events.
I asked what was unique about those characters. You failed to answer it on all three attempts. Try again and don't dodge the question this time. Maybe I wasn't clear enough though. What was so unique about them that warranted them being playable characters in Smash?Lucas was in Mother 3, released four years after Dinosaur Planet. He was also only the second Mother representative.
Ike was in Radiant Dawn, which is a Wii game. His series only had two characters and one was cut in Brawl.
Both are main characters, which Krystal is not.
Won't even touch on Dedede.
What was your point again?
Originality isn't the only parameter for being a newcomer. Otherwise we'd see all kinds of zany characters like Sukapon and Bubbles being newcomers over Mario. Are you so dense that I have to explain why King Dedede got in over Krystal?
The nazi's have a different opinion than most, and we criticize them for it.
If you haven't noticed, this seems to be the typical Shortie response to criticism.
In all fairness: you compared Starfox Adventures to a good experience.
Being a protagonist does not necessarily mean you are unique. Inversely, not being the main character doesn't mean you aren't unique. Kuma asked about uniqueness, not about "statistics". Plus how many playable characters in a series there already are has absolutely nothing to do with uniqueness. Are you saying if characters like Toad, Ghirahim, or Zoroark got into Smash 4, they wouldn't be unique because their series already has major representation?Lucas was in Mother 3, released four years after Dinosaur Planet. He was also only the second Mother representative.
Ike was in Radiant Dawn, which is a Wii game. His series only had two characters and one was cut in Brawl.
Both are main characters, which Krystal is not.
Won't even touch on Dedede.
What was your point again?
This doesn't really answer why they were unique enough to warrant being playable, it just describes how "uniquely" they played once they were already in the game. Also it proves that every character in Smash would play different from eachother and uniquely, including Krystal, especially if you view character movesets such as Lucas "unique".
If she was a semi-clone of Fox, I would agree that would be fairly boring, although judging by what you consider unique, she would still apply. I do wonder how you could consider a character that would use a staff (a weapon not yet in Smash) as something "boring". If it's just by your personal opinions, then it would be very subjective. Even if you ask somebody (somebody logical) that does not support Krystal if a moveset using her multi-functioning staff would be boring or not-unique, I doubt they would think either.
Starfox Adventures is a good game. It got good reviews, it sold well, it was well received. Like what was said before, alot of purists denounced the game because it was a departure from the previous two titles. Changing the style and genre of a game does not make it bad. Bad gameplay, bad controls, bad graphics (to a lesser extent), bad narrative, etc. make a bad game. Granted, none of these factors in Adventures were the same as previous Starfox games, but they were all decent to good, and none of them were downright "bad".
Firstly, Krystal did not kill off Adventures or the Starfox series. The main protagonists are the characters that sell or do not sell a game, not the supporting ones. Tingle didn't kill off Zelda, Waluigi hasn't killed off Mario spin-offs. What caused Starfox to "die" was the mediocre to poor games, not a supporting character in them. Sure, she has a hatebase, but not one so large it would effect the sales, and more importantly reviews, of a Starfox game.
Every character plays different from each other and fights uniquely, eh? That's a perfectly fine opinion to have.
I was never talking about her chances, I was just proving that Krystal (even as a semi-clone) could be considered unique by Smash Daddy's standards. I don't share the same opinion he does on uniqueness (for example I think that Lucas plays differently than Ness and has several different attacks, but isn't wholly unique). I don't think every character is unique, but I think every character has the potential to be unique.
What you are basically arguing is that any character can have a moveset as you can shoehorn in anything. At that point, there's no use arguing. The only remote difference is 'popularity' which is intangible: it's almost impossible to prove to the point that someone this boring and old is a 'lock.'
That is beside the point. As main characters they are more justified in having a moveset that takes from several aspects of their respective games. Krystal is either Dinosaur Planet rep or yet another spacey.
They're balancing out the roster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of Sakurai's 'points' that a character brings balance to the game? Krystal does not bring anything new to the game.
She cannot be the straight clone of Fox - that's Falco - thus she has to have a new set like Wolf. She may be 'psychic' but every other Star Fox character has some gimmick like that going for them too, she is not special. As I have stated previously, Palutena is a lock and has a staff, so that aspect of Krystal would not be unique. They are also not going to base an entire newcomer around a staff that the character barely uses, was in a game ten years old and is entirely irrelevant now. The problem with your argument is, the logic is so broad, you could make it for dozens of characters from 'cult games' in the last ten years, and I'd bet they have far more potential for a set than this.
Fair enough. It was pretty late at night for me anyways.
every character can have his own moveset. clones only happen when the devs get lazy and uncreative. they should put Fox, Falco and Wolf even more different than each another. and I think Krystal could appear in SSB4 with her staff, it could give an entirely different moveset from the other Star Fox characters.
