is there a way to train reaction time? I'm a slow *** *****.
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PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread
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Xyzz
Smash Champion
You probably can't train your physical reaction time too much (there isn't a conclusive scientific answer though), what you can do is working on the time it takes you from reacting to your response.
What I want to say is, that you probably can't do much for the time it takes your eyes to realize something, and your brain to process that information.
What you can do is work on
a) realizing early in the animation what is happening (e.g. catch the roll on the soonest frame with movement in a direction and not only realize what's going on when he's already half through with it).
b) doing your response as soon as you realize what's happening and not wasting time figuring out what to do next. E.g. you see them jumping at you at a spacing what will allow you to dash dance grab their landing, so you go to that instead of looking at them for a split second and then being forced to shield instead because you don't have time to dash away anymore.
c) simply do the M2k and figure out strats that don't require good reaction times.
What I want to say is, that you probably can't do much for the time it takes your eyes to realize something, and your brain to process that information.
What you can do is work on
a) realizing early in the animation what is happening (e.g. catch the roll on the soonest frame with movement in a direction and not only realize what's going on when he's already half through with it).
b) doing your response as soon as you realize what's happening and not wasting time figuring out what to do next. E.g. you see them jumping at you at a spacing what will allow you to dash dance grab their landing, so you go to that instead of looking at them for a split second and then being forced to shield instead because you don't have time to dash away anymore.
c) simply do the M2k and figure out strats that don't require good reaction times.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Shine grabbing is good, but if you never do actual shield pressure, they're just gonna get away with spamming buffered rolls and you'll never get stupid-huge combos by hitting them with dairs or a quick double dair by the ledge. If you feel like you can't capitalize, just look at how they are escaping and start covering that option more. It's as simple as that, really. If they are just holding shield until you drift away, stay on them or cross them up. If they're WDing OoS, use more early aerials and lasers.
Marth is more about patience and baiting than anything else. You can still go in quickly if you want, but you might have to fake a little first since you could run into sword otherwise. You can hang back some, but if you do then watch out for dash attacks and Marth getting more chances to PS lasers. I like patient play at a reasonable distance from Marth, it tends to work well.
Peach: Laser. Did she float before you got there? Top platform fall with laser. Did she take the laser? Hurry and take your stage and pressure her/hit her/grab her before she floats.
Do not fear Nair OOS it can only go backwards and whiffing it is really scary for Peaches.
Don't jab unless you're really confident about it.
Do not panic while offstage.
Not sure what else you might be struggling with so I'll leave it at this for now.
Approach them when they're in lag lol, especially if they moved forward before going into lag.
Puff after landing from Bair so shoot her then and turn her around to start throwing off her spacing and setting yours up. If she shields the laser then you get to approach usually.
i feel like i do everything in smash just a little too slow. **** my life.
TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
I seem to screw up the timing of shffling bairs into shine pretty often, can anyone help me figure out why? It feels like it's just enough to be different from the other aerials that it messes with me.
FrootLoop
Smash Lord
it has more land lag than nair/dair by a few frames, he also wiggles more so maybe you're lcanceling at the wrong time
more info: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=300397
more info: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=300397
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
Thanks. Perhaps I'm trying to cancel it just as fast as the other ariels and that's the problem.
Another question: I was trying to moon walk with falco earlier because I love watching mango do it, but I couldn't do it without like smashing the control stick. I don't want to damage my controller but is this how he does it?
Bones0
Smash Legend
Yeah, you have to slam it pretty hard when you're first learning to moonwalk. lol
Or at least that's how it was for me. I still hit it pretty hard, but not really much harder than a dash input.
Or at least that's how it was for me. I still hit it pretty hard, but not really much harder than a dash input.
Don't ever tell anyone that. You never NEED to be more violent with the controller. Its better to get used to the quick timings than to try to muscle/brute force them. Everything is just a matter of change in stick/button position over x frames.
michael_li
Smash Ace
i tell everyone that! i tell em press it harder to force ur technical out
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
Hmm didn't think about it that way. I guess I should be thinking about how to more effectively manipulate my controller.
Btw is there a channel or something I can subscribe to to see videos of your gameplay or at least some highlights, bones?
I don't think I've ever seen any of your stuff.
Bones0
Smash Legend
youtube.com/Bones0
All of the videos in the My Matches playlist are in chronological order, so you can watch about half of the tournaments I've attended from my third to my second to last.
If you have time to burn, I also have quite a spectacular collection of videos in my Favorites playlist. :D
All of the videos in the My Matches playlist are in chronological order, so you can watch about half of the tournaments I've attended from my third to my second to last.
If you have time to burn, I also have quite a spectacular collection of videos in my Favorites playlist. :D
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
SHWEET, subscribed.
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
Btw, I'm going to go to my first tournament this Saturday!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=328234
Any advice/stories about your own first tournies?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=328234
Any advice/stories about your own first tournies?
Bones0
Smash Legend
I got destroyed by Vist, a great Luigi player, and felt horrible because I was losing to a low tier. Then we played laser tag (cause that was the venue, and we had to purchase a game in order to use the party room). lol
Advice: Stay away from Luigi mains. Nothing good can come from it.
Advice: Stay away from Luigi mains. Nothing good can come from it.
FrootLoop
Smash Lord
got destroyed in all my pool/bracket matches
did ok in friendlies
had fun
advice: ask everyone for friendlies
did ok in friendlies
had fun
advice: ask everyone for friendlies
stabbedbyanipple
Smash Master
my first tourney I went 2-2, beating my training partner who i thought was better than me but then losing an 18 minute best of 3 set vs a kirby player lol
my advice: ask for advice from anyone better than you, don't be afraid to ask good people for friendlies, try to find TVs with no/small rotations so you can play more, HAVE FUN and don't sweat the short term results because it's all about improving in the long term.
my advice: ask for advice from anyone better than you, don't be afraid to ask good people for friendlies, try to find TVs with no/small rotations so you can play more, HAVE FUN and don't sweat the short term results because it's all about improving in the long term.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Always good to know the matchup and then you can combo even luigi! =D
How do I follow-up an upthrow against fast fallers? Low percentage, high percentage, how the lasers from the throw affect their trajectory/stun, etc. I usually jump up with a shine to catch them and that sometimes works but I also want to know when I can shffl an aerial at them and when I have to fullhop with a bair or dair.
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
I'd say it all depends on the di. At low % is when you can follow up with a shine or a shffl. It is just hard to tell which way they will go. If you get a quick throw off at low % and they aren't expecting it, I believe the default direction is forward. That's why you can jump forward and usually catch with shine. You have to read which way they will di though. At higher % is when you will fullhop bair or dair.
Try u-throwing at the beginning of the match and mixing your follow up, this will allow you to gather your opponents reactions while not giving away too much of your own. Then you can make predictions on where they will di later.
One more thing, If you are u-throwing someone and there are platforms, always look for the tech, they will probably di to the platform and roll away. This is another opportunity to full hop bair/dair.
Bones0
Smash Legend
I actually took a game off of him at the last tournament we played at. It was cool to see the fruits of my progress from my first tournament getting wrecked to my 30th or so tournament and taking a game. Next step is to win, ofc. ;D
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
Who won laser tag
Bones0
Smash Legend
crush
Smash Master
wow step ur lasering game up bonezero
Bones0
Smash Legend
I was helping some little kid the whole time (which was actually pretty cool). lol
My first few tournaments were pretty awesome.
First tournament I went 18-10 in round robin full sets. Got a better controller from a friend and beat 7 of the 10 people I lost to in money matches.
Second tournament I went 2-2.
Third tournament I got 4th out of 30 people. :3
First tournament I went 18-10 in round robin full sets. Got a better controller from a friend and beat 7 of the 10 people I lost to in money matches.
Second tournament I went 2-2.
Third tournament I got 4th out of 30 people. :3
Bones0
Smash Legend
No one cares about first tournaments if you play with other tournament players all the time. That's lame. lol I legit played only one friend (Ganon main that didn't L-cancel or WD) and computers before my first tournament.
Mahone
Smash Champion
I got 2nd at my first tourney, beating the TO and he turned to me and said "You're actually terrible at this game, but you're gonna win because of jigglypuff." and a bunch of other awful stuff... and the guy who won 6-1d me in gfs and said a bunch of awful things about me as well
then i didn't go to a tourney for a while...
and i think the last 3 tournies i went to were in 3 different states and i got 2nd at all of them... so not much has changed
always the bridesmaid never the bride
then i didn't go to a tourney for a while...
and i think the last 3 tournies i went to were in 3 different states and i got 2nd at all of them... so not much has changed
always the bridesmaid never the bride
Lanceinthepants
Smash Lord
Wow mahone that story made me so sad.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Who was the TO?
Keep fighting, Mahone. You were born to catch that bouquet.
Keep fighting, Mahone. You were born to catch that bouquet.
Squirt
Smash Apprentice
YES, up to a few weeks ago, I've been playing cpus and scrub sisters that got pissed every time they played. (for the past year)
Mahone
Smash Champion
lol, the only to in nova, who do u think it was?
tarheeljks
Smash Lord
At the first tournament I entered Boback slapped luninspectra lol and the cops came shortly thereafter
flaw
Smash Apprentice
retreating under platforms, good idea or bad? i do it a lot vs falcon, fox and sheik, is this an ok strategy or should i be fighting more for mid-stage?
