Pokemon Black and White (Spoiler Warning)

[M3D]

I have fly on my golem too. Sadly, they gave pretty much every electric type you face from a trainer some kind of dark move to hit him back for SE damage. So you need to overlevel him a little bit to get maximum usefulness out of him. But the Golett/Golurk line is among my favorites this gen by far.

 

[asianaussie]

do you really need to overlevel that much

ive just been sitting my ferrothorn there, cursing a few times and then gyro ballin the crap through everything

helps that they get 5HKOed by iron barbs/rugged helmet

 

[Rubyiris]

I'm doing the same. Omg stop grinding so hard, my team is barely in the teens, besides my Pignite.

I'm not really grinding that hard. Sure, I killed a fill more audinos per pokemon than I normally do since I'm trying to compensate for my bad ivs/natures/abilities, and even then ****'s a little more difficult then I would like.

 

[rhan]

That Golem can know fly?! Holy ****!

New addition for my battle boxes (I have two and a half boxes full of Pokemon I use competitively). I also REALLY enjoyed this game the most. Amazing story!

Also I've grown fond of triple battles. Just to try them out. @_@

I wanna try to put together a team that would be fairly well. But all I seen that works best in triple battles are weather boosting Pokemon.

But as a beginning line up for a triple battle team I have goes.

[collapse=Triple Battle Lineup](Left)

Galvantula
Serious
lvl: 50
@Bright Powder
-Electro Ball
-Electroweb
-Signal Beam
-Gastro Acid
140/91/72/117/70/129

____
(Mid)

Slaking
Lonely
lvl: 50
@Razor Fang
-Slack Off
-Shadow Claw
-Brick Break
-Rock Slide
232/199/119/116/83/132

____
(Right)

Espeon
Brave
lvl: 50
@Leftovers
-Skill Swap
-Psychic
-Helping Hand
-Shadow Ball
145/97/73/151/106/114


Pretty much Gastro Acid to take away Slaking's ability. Helping hand to power Slaking. And Slaking using Rock Slide to strike everything on the other side. Or whatever it pleases. Cuz it's a beast.[/collapse]

Spoiler

I'm newish to competitive Pokemon and such. So I don't know much about how IV's work. And I know very little about how EV's work.

 

[asianaussie]

E4 was hyped up way too much.

all of my pokes were 45-47 and I cleaned up pretty easily, barely any item usage.

In other news, my Reshiram has a SpA+ nature and 28 or 29 in its SpA IV, pretty decent for my first go (I'm not resetting even though it seems to have about 4 IVs in speed/it's Quiet)

most importantly, i caught it in a premier ball - matching colours ftw :D :D :D

that's not a bad lineup but espeon and galvantula want Speed+ natures (or SpA+).

 

[Mic_128]

This is really weird playing this Gen, never felt so doubtful about my team. I'm quite happy with Pignite, Pawniard and strangely, Herdier, but just feel something's missing with Munna and Palpitoad.

 

[Dre89]

I'm doing a bug-type run. I've already beaten the E4 using 4 bugs under level 55, but I want to make a team of 6 competitive bugs to battle friends, wifi etc.

If anyone could recommend which bugs/moves to select (including non-Unova bugs) that would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Rubyiris]

This is really weird playing this Gen, never felt so doubtful about my team. I'm quite happy with Pignite, Pawniard and strangely, Herdier, but just feel something's missing with Munna and Palpitoad.

Herdier is the best in-game pokemon in the game. The stats he has in comparison to the other pokemon and how early you get it make it invaluable until post E4 when he finally starts to be obsoleted.

Crunch, Take Down, and Intimidate by the time you beat the second gym leader? Yes please!

 

[o-Serin-o]

I dunno what to teach my Reuniclus ;____;

Suggestions anyone?

 

[CT Chia]

Recover and Calm Mind

 

[o-Serin-o]

I already have Trick Room, Psychic, Shadowball, and Future Sight.

I'm looking to get rid of Future Sight ._.

 

[choknater]

focus blast

i just beat the e4/champion, finally.

hall of fame:
lilligant - lv 85
emboar - lv 72
chandelure - lv 76
volcarona - lv 73
krookodile - lv 76
hydreigon - lv 71

 

[o-Serin-o]

My first Hall of Fame:

Braviary - Lv.65
Krookodile - Lv.68
Serperior - Lv.78
Zekrom - Lv.57
Haxorus - Lv.71
Panpour - Lv14

 

[rhan]

My first HoF consisted of:

Reshiram - 51
Galvantula - 43
Celebi - 52
Samurott - 46
Gigalith - 46
Zoroark - 47

I'm that good.

 

[o-Serin-o]

My first Hall of Fame:

Braviary - Lv.65
Krookodile - Lv.68
Serperior - Lv.78
Zekrom - Lv.57
Haxorus - Lv.71
Panpour - Lv14

My first HoF consisted of:

Reshiram - 51
Galvantula - 43
Celebi - 52
Samurott - 46
Gigalith - 46
Zoroark - 47

I'm that good.

Uberwhoring is that good.

 

[choknater]

zoro and celebi are nowhere near uber o.o

rhan is that really hall of fame, or the first game complete?

 

[Rubyiris]

Uberwhoring is that good.

Celebi and Zoroark are not ubers.

 

[rhan]

LOL Zoroark is uber?

And I only had him in there for exp share to lvl up. Also it's the Zoroark you get from the Celebi event. Celebi just helped with healing wish. Reshiram you don't get until the end anyway.

It was mainly Gigalith and Samurott doing all the work.

And it's first game completion. SO yeah I messed up that one.

I suck.

 

[Fuelbi]

Uberwhoring is that good.

Celebi and Zoroark aren't Ubers lol. Especially Zoroark. He's nowhere near Uber

zoro and celebi are nowhere near uber o.o

rhan is that really hall of fame, or the first game complete?

Celebi, just like Victini, does have above average stats though so I can understand why he would've pointed Celebi out

 

[choknater]

hahah. i enjoy high levels + no items when beating e4...

but i wonder if there's a record for low level e4 victories

yes fuelbi but high bst's dont have that much to do with how strong a pokemon is. look at slaking and regigigas. victini is mediocre competitively, heck, so is kyurem.

celebi, zoroark, and victini are legendary, mythical pokemon according to the game, and are given unique abilities and high bst's. yet they are all a bit less competitively viable than conkeldurr, a common pokemon


haha this is more directed to serin than to fuel actually

 

[Smasher89]

Zoroark is the best pokemon ever, why you wonder?
In no team preview you can ALLWAYS ask you opponent if Zoroark is on the field, creating another depth into your game (especially if you sometimes actually use zoroark and don't bluff) XD

 

[Fuelbi]

yes fuelbi but high bst's dont have that much to do with how strong a pokemon is. look at slaking and regigigas. victini is mediocre competitively, heck, so is kyurem.

Regigigas and Slaking are easy to use in game if you know how to use them . With Reigigigas you just have to learn how to make due with Slow Start and you just have to be powerful enough to cause massive damage to a pokemon with Truant

 

[o-Serin-o]

Yeah, I realized my mistake now. I was just in a different state of mind where Legendary = Uber.

Sue me

EDIT: Someone AIM me, I feel like battling.

3v3 flat rules, no wonder launcher.

 

[choknater]

that may be true fuel, but it doesnt change the fact that those abilities are in general extremely handicapping. i know slaking can be used well, but regigigas is just attacking fodder sometimes... 5 turns is way too long.









conkeldurr is just amazing.

 

[rhan]

Can't you just Gastro Acid Regigigas and have his ability negated? And even then would that just leave him with cut stats?

If all else fails teach it protect and just protect every other turn. that'll only have it hit twice out of the five times (Assuming that it's a single battle and that the opponent doesn't know Fient).

 

[choknater]

the problem with protect is vs setup pokemon. if you can predict protects, you can just give yourself your own bulkup, calm mind, quiver dance, or god forbid, shell smash.





or in an environment that allows, double team or minimize hahahaha.

protect is still good for pokemon that have abilities that make the best of it... like toxic heal, ice body, moody... i dont feel the same way, though, about slow start

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

My Zekrom:

Adamant

Hp: 20~21
Att: 4~5
Def: 30~31
Sdef: 30~31
Satt: 24~25
Speed: 24~25

My first Zekrom, at that. I plan to use Pokegen if I ever want to use a legend or anything really, so the legends are mere gems for me. This is a beautiful gem, though. Attack is low, but with those great IVs and Adamant nature, it's a beauty.

Go up thar with my Timid 18/31/18/31/20/31 Mewtwo and my Naughty/Modest Jirachi/Celebi. (Those are not Pokegenned)

 

[asianaussie]

I'm doing a bug-type run. I've already beaten the E4 using 4 bugs under level 55, but I want to make a team of 6 competitive bugs to battle friends, wifi etc.

If anyone could recommend which bugs/moves to select (including non-Unova bugs) that would be greatly appreciated.

Volcarona (sweeper, fire coverage and immunity)
Forretress (hazards/spin, it sort of sucks now)
Scizor (go either SD or choiced revenger/scout, almost the same as last gen)
Accelgor (scout with U-Turn, revenger w/o priority)
Heracross (sort of boring)
Yanmega (Tinted Lens to account for resistance)

Spoiler

Bug type Arceus

Maybe put Galvantula in there if you want good electric coverage. It's a bug team, don't expect too much of it. Quiver Dance Tinted Lens Venomoth would be cool if you can nab one.

 

[Mic_128]

Thinking of dropping my Munna for Solosis. Opinions?

 

[Fuelbi]

Good choice Munna is statistically worse than Solosis

 

[o-Serin-o]

Do it x10

It'll work out for you better in the long run with having a Reuniclus rather than having a Mursharna.

 

[CT Chia]

zoroark is such a troll
i just fought someone with a conkeldurr that vomited flames everywhere via flamethrower lol

 

[Wave⁂]

Do it x10

It'll work out for you better in the long run with having a Reuniclus rather than having a Mursharna.

Well, that depends on how far in you are, since the accidentally EV trained Mursharna might have higher stats.

 

[Firus]

Thinking of dropping my Munna for Solosis. Opinions?

I'd definitely do it.

Then again, that's exactly what I did do. Used Munna/Musharna until MK traded me a Solosis and dropped Musharna once I got it.

Musharna worked decently well for me, but Reuniclus is statistically better and...more importantly, cellular-thing > dream elephant.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Thinking of dropping my Munna for Solosis. Opinions?

Go for it I did the exact same did in my white playthrough cause Munna wasn't doing it for me cause it kept on getting criticals on it and getting one shot all the time. The only thing I liked about it is yawn and that's it. If you do get a Solosis, you won't get any decent attack moves till Psyshock and that is around the time it evolves at lvl 31-33 but before then you will have similar problems with Munna but once it fully evolves at lvl 42-43 into Reuniculus you wont regret it and **** pokes especially if you got a modest nature with magic guard like I did.

 

[asianaussie]

I used Sigilyph.

Yep.

 

[o-Serin-o]

I'm still looking for someone to battle Grinding all my pokemon kinda boring.

 

[Mic_128]

checking out the fossils and while Archeo-whatsit is strong, don't really want it on my team. Is Tirtouga any good, or at least better than the water/ground toad?

 

[asianaussie]

Archeops has the most ridiculous movepool...Acrobatics, Crunch and U-Turn without TMs, Rock Slide and Stone Edge...he's basically a super sweeper...

I used Acrobatics on the E4's Cof@grius and lost Defeatist. lulz you can't trade Cof@grius online because of his name, gg Nintendo

The water/ground toad is super mediocre, Tirtouga is slow and rather powerful, sort of like Ferroseed or Snorlax (though not quite as slow or powerful as those two). I would still go Archeops.

 

[o-Serin-o]

Normally, I would agree with Archeops being a better choice, but his ability just literally makes him about as good as Regigigas would be without Slow Start. Take a hit, lose power. Gay ****, and I do not approve.