Pokémon Black and White (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[Zook]

Claw Sharpen raises Accuracy, Rockem.

Zoroark comes in as Blissey/Skarmory on a sweeper (both of which are SR neutral), forces a switch-out, boosts up, and rips stuff apart.

 

[Pluvia]

Zoroark's ability wouldn't affect my current team. Weavile with Fake Out, Taunt, Counter and Night Slash as an anti-lead.

It probably wouldn't affect that much people I think.

 

[rockem7]

Claw Sharpen raises Accuracy, Rockem.

Whoops, sorry. For whatever reason I thought it was Attack. And has it been confirmed that the only legit way to get Zoroark/Zorua is through getting the special legendary beasts?

 

[UltiMario]

It's actually Attack+Acc

lol

Also yes.

 

[M.K]

It's both Accuracy and Attack.
http://serebii.net/blackwhite/attacks.shtml
Christ, does nobody use citations here?

^^Exactly.

 

[Zook]

It's actually Attack+Acc

lol

Also yes.

I thought that the Attack boost was implied. My mistake.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Zook's to good to need to be referenced. Anyways.

Imagine your "Salamence" manages to take out its counter before dying of Life Orb recoil. Your opponent is content until several turns later you bring out your Salamence.
Too bad Salamence is a suspect now. LOL.

 

[PowerBomb]

Suspecting that Zoroark has a similar movepool to Salamence?

 

[Z'zgashi]

That would be wierd

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Suspecting that Zoroark has a similar movepool to Salamence?

Suspecting that it absolutely MUST be Salamence?

 

[UltiMario]

What about switching your Mence into SR and it does 12% Damage? :/

 

[RuNNing Riot]

Maybe Stealth Rock just ain't up yet or was spun away already. After all, it's practically necessary to have Mence with a Spinner so it doesn't constantly wipe itself out with SR and LO damage.

Attacking him with an Ice-type move would probably be a bigger indicator, IMO.

 

[UltiMario]

I use Mence all the time without spinners.

All he needs to do is kill something and he's done his job, so he doesn't need to have a lot of survivability.

 

[Pluvia]

For some reason people keep switching Mence's into my Bronzong. 2 Gyro Balls later and it's dead.

 

[The Real Gamer]

A lot of people think they can use Zong as setup bait since a lot of Zongs are used for support and very little offense.

Not something I would risk though.

 

[Z'zgashi]

If they make a pokemon even more broken than wobbuffet, I swear... >.>

 

[CRASHiC]

I want an item that reduces the damage you receive from entry hazards.
I want an item that can change your type to normal (for Trick shenanigans)
I want an item that switches your special defense with your special attack (hello Gallade)

 

[Mewter]

Those sound cool.

How about an attack that reduces a stat in order to recover HP?

 

[M.K]

If they make a pokemon even more broken than wobbuffet, I swear... >.>

Wobbuffet, in itself, is not a broken Pokemon.
Two Wobbuffet in the 3rd Generation literally does break the game.

 

[Fuelbi]

Well at least they let you switch out on Wob now if you have Wob out, though it sucks when the only pokemon left are Wobbuffets... ****, now THAT'S a hell of a stalling match

 

[The Real Gamer]

I want an item that switches your special defense with your special attack (hello Gallade)

LOL CRASHiC I can tell you desperately want Gallade to be usable.

 

[CRASHiC]

To be honest, the only pokemon I'm dying to be usable is Mawile
I do however want the item I listed, and instantly thought of how Gallade would be usable because of the immense Theorymon I've been playing with him. It would also be wonderful for Trick users to stop Blissey.

 

[Fuelbi]

You know what? They need to give Metapod/Kakuna Explosion >_>

 

[The Real Gamer]

I have a good feeling it'll get an evo... Mawile I mean.

GOD I love how LO Starmie's Hydro Pump almost always OHKOs Magnezone with full health... SUCH a good feeling.

 

[CRASHiC]

If you give them Explosion, there would be a chance that Scyther could learn it ya know. Imagine Choice Band Scizor running around with Explosion.

 

[The Real Gamer]

If you give them Explosion, there would be a chance that Scyther could learn it ya know. Imagine Choice Band Scizor running around with Explosion.

And that's exactly when it gets it's *** booted to Ubers.

 

[UltiMario]

Explosion means that CB Scizor will get even MORE ***** by Rotom.

 

[Fuelbi]

If you give them Explosion, there would be a chance that Scyther could learn it ya know. Imagine Choice Band Scizor running around with Explosion.

I like this a lot. I like it very much

 

[The Real Gamer]

Explosion means that CB Scizor will get even MORE ***** by Rotom.

Giving Scizor Explosion would make it too unpredictable, and too many physical walls that should be able to take it 1 on 1 (like Hippowdon) now find themselves in a really rough position.

Plus, we already have enough annoying appliances running around. We don't need to make them mandatory on every team.

 

[UltiMario]

It means nothing on CB Scizor, considering you could completely waste a good Scizor with it.

LO Scizor would skyrocket in usage though.

 

[CRASHiC]

Hey, next gen, don't the Rotom forms go away since they only work in Platinum, just like the Giaratina-O Shaymin-S?

 

[UltiMario]

Everything in Plat made its way into HGSS, and there's nothing stopping Nintendo from making the formes compatible with new games, all you need to do is include their sprites/items/etc and they work.

I see all the new formes getting into Gen V

 

[M.K]

I don't know if it's been reported yet, but "Encourage", Hihidaruma's ability, is an ability that strengthens all attacks of the Pokemon, but negates any possibility of secondary effects.

 

[CRASHiC]

I hope he can learn explosion and claw sharpen.

 

[Fuelbi]

I don't know if it's been reported yet, but "Encourage", Hihidaruma's ability, is an ability that strengthens all attacks of the Pokemon, but negates any possibility of secondary effects.

(This is the ape right?)

If it doesn't learn Will-o-wisp, I see it being useless, or at least less useful

 

[Blaziking17]

(This is the ape right?)

If it doesn't learn Will-o-wisp, I see it being useless, or at least less useful

No, Will-o-wisp will still work because it's main effect is to burn.

Moves like Lava Plume and Flamethrower will be more powerful under this ability, but lose the secondary effect to burn the opponent. That's what Encourage does.

 

[Fuelbi]

No, Will-o-wisp will still work because it's main effect is to burn.

Moves like Lava Plume and Flamethrower will be more powerful under this ability, but lose the secondary effect to burn the opponent. That's what Encourage does.

That's what I was trying to say.

Not all people use will-o-wisp on their pokemon relying on the secondary effect that the other attacks bring. I see people are gonna start using Will-o-wisp more on the ape thing considering that all the other fire attacks lose their secondary effect.

 

[Blaziking17]

I see what you're saying, but I'd rather go for higher damage than a chance to burn; the only good thing about burning is lowered ATK plus gradually HP decrease, and smart people will switch out anyway, so why not go for the KO?

 

[Fuelbi]

I see what you're saying, but I'd rather go for higher damage than a chance to burn; the only good thing about burning is lowered ATK plus gradually HP decrease, and smart people will switch out anyway, so why not go for the KO?

Yeah, but it's not like it's gonna come back anyways.

Anyways, I can see Will-O-Wisp on a lot of sets on the ape

 

[Blaziking17]

Yeah, me too.

Maybe some of the earlier generations will have Encourage. Can't imagine who, though. Any thoughts as to who may likely get it?