people think

[XIII ways to die]

ive had a couple of people call BS on what ive been saying about me and pikachu well for those of you who want to see for yourselves call me when your in memphis,tn 351-8423 are code 901. and we can have a match. specificly you axe.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

woah dude stop and calm down your going to get banned, fast. YOu haven't told anyone how, you have insulted pros, heck even I who does it with pichu and master of all his/pikachu's fframe knows your lacking proof. At least chill out man.

 

[AXE 09]

whoa wait a sec dude.

can you explain yourself a little more on the techniques you're trying to describe?

do you have any videos we could watch?


EDIT: oh and... i live in Arizona, so.... i'm a little far away lol

 

[N64]

You should play IHaveSpaceBalls. He plays with Chad relatively often, and Chad's probably top 2 pikas atm, so IHSB should be able to gauge your pika skill pretty well. Also, he lives in tennessee as well, that's why i suggest it, so probably can set something up.

Otherwise, try to get out to tourneys and start ******/proving how amazing you are. Axe did it when I was sceptical back in the day heh.

 

[Stev]

Axe, why are you so legit? Will you have my babies?

 

[AXE 09]

Axe, why are you so legit? Will you have my babies?

LMAO give me some YooHoo and you got yourself a deal!

haha N64, i remember when i first came on to the pika boards, everyone kinda ignored me lol. wasn't my title like... "the pika that got overlooked... but shouldn't have"??? or something like that lol.

 

[Stev]

LMAO give me some YooHoo and you got yourself a deal!.

lol, that's all it takes? You're the cheapest prostitute I've ever met! *await's mom jokes* **** going to the sperm bank!

 

[V3ctorMan]

ive had a couple of people call BS on what ive been saying about me and pikachu well for those of you who want to see for yourselves call me when your in memphis,tn 351-8423 are code 901. and we can have a match. specificly you axe.

EDIT: I put a very rude comment, here but so people don't hate on my dubs partner Axe, I removed it. XIII I wish you luck on your journey to want to play Axe..Sad to say you don't stand a chance, but hey.. you'll find out.

 

[Rubyiris]

Stop feeding the troll, guys. Just report his posts, and be on your merry.

 

[NES n00b]

ive had a couple of people call BS on what ive been saying about me and pikachu well for those of you who want to see for yourselves call me when your in memphis,tn 351-8423 are code 901. and we can have a match. specificly you axe.

Well if you really want to....................

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Heck if you ask me if keeps this up without anyproof and doesn't shut up and goes to the point were he says something like it in his posts temp ban him. I was banned for half a year for less. no johns.

NO axe I read the melee guide and it says" PIKACHU A Pokemon that excels at clever fighting." Sounds like he is only good for mindgames and it says pichu is more nimble. meaning...

But really pikachu is legit and this is the only time anyone will ever hear me say that because he sucks.

But hey thread started guy tell me how are get some video proof I want to hear this down-B thing. I know it has nothing to do with dding,wding, edges, my big toe ,or platfroms.

 

[XIII ways to die]

yah i plan to play chad too i already know he lives here. i play KYO all the time too my neighbor actually.
oh and the the down-b cancle all it is using the enemy attack to stop you from being hit by your thunder then perfect recover tech to another thunder to instantly have another bolt follow right behind the first.
oh and i saw axes vid where he was up b cancling on the edge, it was ok but my up-b cancle goes so much further, i cancle anywhere. though i will say his pikachu is good.

to insane crazy guy you seem to be under the immpression that i am being cocky or somewhat. i would be glad to have a mach up between your pichu.

ill try and work on getting a vid uploaded maybe kyo still has his camera.

 

[NES n00b]

YOU PLAY KYO HAHAHA OH **** THiS IS TOO GOOD. Why haven't you ever went with Kyo to where Chad is?

 

[PikaPika!]

I don't even play this game anymore and I'm still better than this guy talking ****.

 

[Strong Badam]

oh and the the down-b cancle all it is using the enemy attack to stop you from being hit by your thunder

so basically you don't actually cancel anything yourself....



also, pikachu dittos prove nothing. /thread

 

[XIII ways to die]

everyones saying im talkim smack lol yall are talking just as much. so what if i cant cancle the down b myself. its pretty bad if i know how to perfect tech off your move. and the rest yes i can cancle my self. dude just ask Kyo he'll tell you. hes the one ive been praticing with. i had to get my can wooped alot by him before i got good.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I live in IN. there's no way I could drive or get a ride that far for a few matches. You seem better now, but earlier you seemed up in everyones face. I,m glad you findly said what your saying and if you want techical game play pichu is more techical, but that's if your going for the techical thing. Because really there isn't much to be techical with for pikachu.

 

[AXE 09]

wait, lemme get this strait...

you use your down b.... then get hit?

i guess you could call it cancelling your down-b, but i call it getting punished.

we're not trying to bag on you, it's just you kinda came out of no where and started talking without like any videos or anyone hearing anything about you, you know?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

AAAAXXXEEEEEE

i love you.

 

[AXE 09]

AAAAXXXEEEEEE

i love you.

ahhhhh i love you too!! XD

 

[The Irish Mafia]

I now play the 2nd worst pikachu in the world

 

[XIII ways to die]

ok first to insane ... yes pikachu is very tech when used in the ways ive been practicing. i realy do want yall to see thats why im trying hard to get a vid.

and then to axe you call it getiing punished however if you hit me with any move pikachu will stay on the ground where you hit him and be standing back up before your move finishes. if done right you dont get punished. try it when you get the chance dude.

boards my pikachu kick but on.....

yoshi's island
onnet ...not sure if thats spelled right
hyrule temple.... sometimes long drawn out maches are fun
pokemon stadium for sure
FD is cool but no plattforms
poke floats

 

[N64]

If you're talking about smash DIing hits down and then teching in place, then yes that's viable but hardly reliable. It's not used in competative play because, to my knowledge, no one can do it consistently. Also I believe it doesn't work on many attacks. If you did though, you'd probably want to punish with something else other than another thunder.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I will always say pichu is more techical because of up-b differents, wall jump, and a LITTLE faster over all.

down-B cancel works for jigglypuff too and they are 3 ways
1. laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser laser UP-SMASH
2. land in a barrel
3.stock cancel(lose a stock)

jiggly is SOO broken canceling a fast move with insane knockback.

But understand your flaws before you tell me i,m wrong you I can't counter attack you.

 

[XIII ways to die]

If you're talking about smash DIing hits down and then teching in place, then yes that's viable but hardly reliable. It's not used in competative play because, to my knowledge, no one can do it consistently. Also I believe it doesn't work on many attacks. If you did though, you'd probably want to punish with something else other than another thunder.

well its something that im doing pretty often. dude the thunder goes through most moves in the game so how can you say that. thunder cancles the or goes through any arial any smash
and almost all b moves. ive already done it.

but you are right sometimes it is better to follow with something else but almost half the time double thunders are better.

now if you want to talk about the recover the to follow through with another attack. use the down smash after thunde cancle to have the down smash spin hitting you while the thunder is still coming donw on your head at the same time. thats a cool looking multi hit.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

thunder stops needles and bombs and slows arrows. I would really love to play vs you.
Hey how to do people fight you? Because i,ve never heard of anyone that bad to fall for something that slow over and over I mean my little brother is 6 and he can avoid thunder easily or at least hits me another 3 times before I could. I mean maybe once in a long while like a random falcon punch

 

[wool]

I've read this thread over 3 times and I still don't know what is going on. How can you possibly understand what XIII Ways to Die is saying? It sounds like gibberish to me. If someone has the time can they please post here/PM me what the heck this is about in proper english. Would appreciate it

EDIT:
NVM I actually think I got it this time.
But doesn't that require the opp. to attack you while you are doing the thunder...making it only work on noobs/idiots?

 

[AXE 09]

But doesn't that require the opp. to attack you while you are doing the thunder...making it only work on noobs/idiots?

exactly

i dunno who you're playing with, but spamming thunder against any person who even knows the basics of the game is a bad idea

that thunder downsmash thing actually sounds kinda cool though lol. but that would only work on like... very nubby people.

and besides the thunder, you stated something about canceling your up-b without any edges or anything. is that the same concept?

if we all went by your concept, then we could say that ALL attacks in the game can be cancelled. i GUESS you could say that they're being cancelled, but... i'm pretty sure everyone would agree that we would call it getting punished instead lol

 

[XIII ways to die]

im not saying i pull it off all the time but there are oppertunitys that come up and allow me to do it.
i meen yes natuarlly if you dont expect it youll get hit but for someone of skill take a little more effort to do it agiants or alot more effort. but spamming thunder is not a bad idea. just learn your accuracy with it.
and to wool for saying the noob thing. you keep thinkin like that. and your ganna hold yourself back.

and no the up-b thing is diff from my thunder. its just a joystick techniq. that allows me to canle my up-b with out edges or platforms. ok for instance go to final dest. and with out using the edge zip across the ground and cancle yourself. you have to activate the up-b right when it looks like pikachus feet are leaving the ground. then go to right or left. if done right the up-b ibecomes a little faster and cancles out. once i get a cam ill show it to you i can do it almost perfect

yall just dont see what i do in pikachu.

 

[Ocho(*8*)]

^ I think he means using up-b when you're a little off the ground so that you land with less lag.

 

[N64]

That's not really cancelling. It does bring down lag from just doing it without leaving the ground, but that's common knowledge by this point. Also, still has more lag than ledge-cancelling it.

 

[wool]

That's not really cancelling. It does bring down lag from just doing it without leaving the ground, but that's common knowledge by this point. Also, still has more lag than ledge-cancelling it.

This.

And spamming thunder IS bad because since you rely on it so much, any decent player will try to bait you into doing the move then punish after. Accuracy isn't the problem here. It's the mindgames.

 

[AXE 09]

^ I think he means using up-b when you're a little off the ground so that you land with less lag.

which is what i described to him before, but he said you could land with ZERO lag, which i have yet to see

and i definately agree that spamming thunder IS a bad idea. all the stuff that you're explaining sounds like everything you can do in brawl

 

[XIII ways to die]

uh no there is no diff in lag compared to the leg cancle if done right.pikahu never realyleaves the ground when done right. it looks as if he is tipytoeing to the up b.
oh i havnt even played brawl pluss yet but from what i heard pikachu would own so hard in brawl pluss.


and i dont rely on the thunder. but i do tech chase the heck out of it when the chance arises. and spamming it all the time is bad yah i know that. but spamming it in combos with other attacks is not.

i guess i just have good b skills. lol yall see eventually.

 

[wool]

it's not possible to fully cancel the lag on the up-b without ledge canceling it.
that's a fact.
you can reduce it a lot but its not 0 lag.
if you can post a vid on what you are doing it would stop these arguments and one of us would stand corrected.

 

[XIII ways to die]

uh yes it is and thats a fact. you can cancle fast enough to where it wont let you do your second zip.
put it this way i can cancle right behind to an instant down smash or up smash whatever and you cant do anything about it. there is absolutly zero lag when done right.
just as fast as you can leg cancle to a move you can do the same thing on flat ground

 

[V3ctorMan]

*sigh* i'm like 3 seconds away, from giving up all hope you in you.. "oh wait" I did already... I don't even play Pikachu, and I can tell you that statement is False, but do as you will and TRY to explain something is possible, when it's not..

BUT. maybe you're right, I SEVERELY doubt it.. but maybe..

Axe Pikachu is FREAKING rapesauce! His Pika is a world phenomenom!! <3 Axe <3
DID You know? Mewtwo is Above Top Tier in melee!? I bet you didn't... Yep.. EVEN over Axe's Pikachu!.. now that's somethin! lol <3 Jeff <3

 

[XIII ways to die]

like i care what you think about me. lol simple minded so bad it ticks me off.

 

[Kyo Kusanagi]

Ok Listen up everyone I've been playing since 1999 hardcore, been to tournys beat Darkrain etc.. Yes Pikachu and Pichu can cancel their Quick attack specials only few people in the world know this or have even seen it. and for the record specialists are the other type of fighters that aren't that known nor are seen that much so don't doubt that something can't be done because it's already happened.

Kyo has spoken. Bloodline members - Kyo, Ichigo, Edward, Poop, And XIII ways to die.

Kyo Falcon Kicks Himself.

 

[N64]

wait wait

wait wait wait

i'm in darkrain's crew. I used to play him like once a week. I've never heard of you, or any of the 'bloodline members'. Neither does anyone I've been able to contact so far that regularly plays with / attends tourneys with Darkrain. I don't necessarily doubt that you have 'been to tournys beat Darkrain etc.' I just doubt that you've beaten him in any serious setting.

That aside, the quick attack stuff was kinda gone over already. Unless you've got something tangible to, well, show us this it kinda just sounds like the two ways you're 'cancelling' it are: 1) getting hit or 2) jumping right before you do it. The first is kinda dumb/situational and only really works for clinking with stuff and sliding across the ground super fancylike. The second has been generally known since like 2001, and it isn't really useful for pikachu anyhow as it still has lag.