One Piece

[Reizilla]

Inb4 stringers are tougher than steel


Don't forget that Sanji also had no idea what Dofla's ability was. The crew always gets destroyed the first time they encounter an odd DF.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

Yeah, that's how it goes in One Piece; you never win in the first encounter. Hell, Luffy didn't beat Crocodile until the third.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Yea Sanji lost to Doffy really quickly which makes him look kinda weak, but this could be explained by not knowing his devil fruit. But how about vergo? yes i know his body was injured but for sanji to break his leg is kinda just lame and embarrassing. He just seems weaker then he should be when we look at how strong luffy became (sorry if this is a little off but i wrote this really quickly in class)

 

[Reizilla]

I agree with the Vergo thing though. Breaking a leg is a bit much for Sanji. Maybe it was to show off the healing power of his cooking?

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

got a couple of questions about jimbei.

1: do you guys think he can use haki?

2: when he joins the crew will he replace sanji as a member of the strongest 3 in the crew?

 

[strawhats]

Yeah, that's how it goes in One Piece; you never win in the first encounter. Hell, Luffy didn't beat Crocodile until the third.

the problem is that sanji would not win in 3, 4, or even 5 encounters with DD. Doflamingo is a high tier dude in the one piece world...he could probably challenge Aokiji/Akainu in battle(probably would be close to death and lose) but he'd inflict some sort of damage at the very least. Sanji is simply not on Donquixote's level.

just a side note, but I wish that Luffy would've fought Vergo in the previous arc, as opposed to Luffy vs Caesar Clown.

 

[Beat!]

1: do you guys think he can use haki?

Yes.

2: when he joins the crew

He won't. I'm more than 99% certain that, while we haven't seen the last of him, he will never actually join the crew to the extent that he travels around with them. I simply don't see how that could be worked into the story in a good way.



@strawhat
If Sanji's not on Doflamingo's level, he's not on Aokiji/Akainu's level either. They're two of the strongest characters alive at the moment, and while that can be said for Dofla as well, I heavily disagree with the implication that he's a level above the other two.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

the problem is that sanji would not win in 3, 4, or even 5 encounters with DD. Doflamingo is a high tier dude in the one piece world...he could probably challenge Aokiji/Akainu in battle(probably would be close to death and lose) but he'd inflict some sort of damage at the very least. Sanji is simply not on Donquixote's level.

Well duh, of course he isn't. Doffy's gonna be Luffy's enemy while Sanji will get Diamante or one of those other guys. I was just saying that him losing so fast shouldn't be cause for alarm since that pretty much always happens when anyone in One Piece fights someone with an unknown ability. Hell, just last arc Luffy lost to Caesar in their first encounter for that very reason despite how lousy Caesar is.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

He won't. I'm more than 99% certain that, while we haven't seen the last of him, he will never actually join the crew to the extent that he travels around with them. I simply don't see how that could be worked into the story in a good way.

I am not as sure as you are on this, I mean luffy made it clear he wants him in his crew and jimbei made it clear he wants to join so I could see definitely see him joining as a full on travel around crew member. I do see that there are some problems with this such as if he joins what will happen to the sun pirates, but i dont think that thats a huge problem which can't be solved.

The problem with sanji losing so early is that zoro made it pretty clear in the last arc that losing the first fight is no longer acceptable, and until we see this trend continue with other straw hats I am not sure its not a big problem for sanji. (but personally i also assume they will keep losing at the first encounters with major villains)

Also I hope this arc has zoro fight doflamingo and luffy fight the admiral (or if no admiral fights at least have zoro fight doflamingo so we can see him up against some real competition.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

The problem with sanji losing so early is that zoro made it pretty clear in the last arc that losing the first fight is no longer acceptable, and until we see this trend continue with other straw hats I am not sure its not a big problem for sanji.

Zoro also never knows where he's going, so who cares what he thinks.

 

[Beat!]

I am not as sure as you are on this, I mean luffy made it clear he wants him in his crew and jimbei made it clear he wants to join so I could see definitely see him joining as a full on travel around crew member. I do see that there are some problems with this such as if he joins what will happen to the sun pirates, but i dont think that thats a huge problem which can't be solved.

My issue is more with the fact that I'm not sure he'd fit in with the otherwise fairly goofy crew. Aside from Robin (whom many would consider to be the most boring character on the crew), all of them have fairly sizeable comic relief aspects of their personalities. I don't think another 95% serious character would work out all that well.

Then again, as I'm writing this I'm realizing that I may be overstating the issue. Perhaps he will join the crew. I will remain doubtful for the time being, though.

 

[Beat!]

Rebecca with that M2K status.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

I don't think Jinbe's gonna join either, what dream could he possibly have? He seems like he's got everything covered. Also, he's fat.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

hes not joining, he'll be an honorary member like vivi and whoever else they befriended up to this point who are all gonna show up to help the strawhats in the final battle

 

[PureYeti]

what you have against fat people huh? >:o

Robin turn out to be a fine addition to the crew later on and she have own comic reliefs being shown. I can see Oda will fit in Jimbei with no problem. Jimbei did state he will join after he finish whatever business he got to do. His dream is probably get a good relationship with fishmen and humans

 

[:mad:]

Lot of interesting stuff this chapter. The newest toy revelation is pretty unnerving and I'm looking forward to seeing Rebecca in action.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

So a lot of people are wondering who luffy will give Ace's fruit to assuming he gets it and its really Ace's fruit. I am thinking it could be interesting if he doesn't give it to anyone and keeps it on the ship for a while.

 

[theeboredone]

What happens if he just dumps it in the ocean?

 

[:mad:]

What happens if he just dumps it in the ocean?

The ocean is now fire.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

I would read that
edit: also now the ocean would be unable to stay afloat in itself...

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

double post. so how long do you think this flashback will be? I normally don't mind flash backs but so far this one hasn't really shown anything new.

 

[:mad:]

One chapter at most. He may just end it there to kind of imply what happens next.

 

[ぱみゅ]

At least until half of next chapter.
We'l have to see exactly what happened, what did Doflamingo achieved while King and how much does the King hate him.

 

[theeboredone]

Oh wow...there is no way you survive something like that.

 

[Phoenix Lord']

I don't know, this is One Piece we're talking about.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

he most likely will survive, but who knows maybe the rules change in the new world and people will be able to die outside of flashbacks (and the war)

 

[Hot_ArmS]

luffy survived a big hole through his chest im sure law can survive a bullet

 

[asianaussie]

aizen will save him with his neverending luv

 

[theeboredone]

luffy survived a big hole through his chest im sure law can survive a bullet

Looked like multiple gunshots if I read/looked at it correctly. Oh and how's Ace doing?

 

[asianaussie]

ace isnt really a good example because logia and bullets

haki sure, but point stands

 

[Metalbro]

Tenryubitos and their pistol executions...

 

[Hot_ArmS]

if law dies luffy is gonna try to recruit bear to his crew

 

[Phoenix Lord']

Nah, Bepo would have to become the new captain of the Heart Pirates.

 

[:mad:]

Bepo's a mix of Chopper and Nami and they're both better at doing their jobs.

On the real though, I doubt Law will die. Until I see a headshot, he's alive.

 

[Rutger]

No way is Law dieing just as he thinks of someone's name that we have never(?) heard of.

It's just time for his flashback.

I feel that Law is safe, so I'm more interested in what happens with Bellamy, I doubt his loyalties will last after what just happened. I want to see what role he will play in this arc.

 

[theeboredone]

That kid Bellamy was talking to scares me. Obviously he is uber powered.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

Dofy must think highly of him if he sends him to get luffy

 

[theeboredone]

Might we see a bit of Zoro vs Doflamingo?

 

[ぱみゅ]

It's just time for his flashback.

This is the most likely option.

Regardless, Law is still alive because reasons.

This will very probably ignite Luffy's flame against Doflamingo and will lead him to win.
Which is funny because it has always been stated that Luffy's weakness are blades, and apparently, Dofla's strings are very sharp.

And Bellamy's tale will cook apart:
Option 1: Bellamy fights that kid because he doesn't really want to kill Luffy, and will win even if really costs him a lot.
Option 2: Bellamy doesn't want to kill Luffy, and the kid either injuries or "kills" Bellamy.
Option 3: Bellamy sneaks on Luffy, but Strawhat notices him so he can't kill him, and the kid will do something about it.
Option 4: Luffy begins his fight against Doflamingo, confusing everyone else.

 

[theeboredone]

Someone made an interesting point in another forum...apparently the two characters to die in present time, their eyes were drawn differently. The way Law's eyes are drawn signify he's unconscious.