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Omis's Unlucky Thirteen-The Game Is Over!

Ronike

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Ok, fine. I'll drop it for now, but I think we ought to come back to it for lynching time. Cause it ain't as simple as you'd think mentos. I haven't even mentioned it yet for good reason, but there have been TWO nights, meaning a third Indy mason exists. I wanted to see who would be most adamant against killing jungle, and that was you mentos, so FOS on you. But we shall see after your "giant post".

As for now, I agree with the Yaya shoot. And I propose we go about this somewhat like a lynch. We all vote, and mac kill that person off, if mac deems it acceptable. In the end, its mac's descion I realize, but may as well go about this in easy to tell way.

Shoot: Yaya
 

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gahh god ****it two mroe tests and a paper sprung up on me

i was a vanilla townie, like rockin said.

i'm going to read these last few pages, and see why ronike wants to use the bullet on yaya

unless someone wants to tl;dr for me :D
 

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Jungle, it ain't my first choice, but given a choice between Lombo, Yaya, Mentos, and Spam, I think Yaya has most reason to go. I'd pick Mentos or you, but I got nothing but an apparently farfetched idea going for the two of you, plus RL johns from you.

Reasons to shoot as I see them:
Lombo = "attacked" me, overly biased list
However, being biased myself, Im going to try and leave him out for now
Yaya = all the reasons Mac said and I said in the past page
Mentos = Done nothing real bad besides being totally against my idea. Save it for later
Spam = Gone strongly after you, but contributes good stuff quite a bit more often than some others.
 

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Ok, I merely wanted to know so I could tell if smashbot had made a lucky guess prior to having enough data, which would make this an even easier situation, or if that theory of his was(finally) broken down. So, now for the information I have that will put us in an extremely good situation. Until I realized how good a chance we had if I did this, I was going to hold off, but I feel this is a perfect situation for this.

I am the cop. Each night I can investigate one person to learn not just their alliance, but their exact role. Night one I investigated Jungle, due mainly to not having any solid suspicions and wanting to test spam's gut. The investigation must have gotten in after your mason action, as I got him as a mason on that investigation. If you need confirmation of me being the cop, I got a copy of the role descriptions, and will be able to post them to confirm they are what you received and verify myself.

This investigation is why I have been against any lynch/kill on Rockin/Jungle since the beginning of day 2. I knew that Rockin must be the other mason(confirmed today) when he stuck his neck out for Jungle, saying he knew he was town. At that point I began my opposition to any push to lynch or kill these two. So, as of now, Rockin and Jungle are cleared as masons, and being town aligned.

Night 2, unfortunately, I investigated Marshy. He is a good enough player I felt he would be one of the harder people to pick up as mafia if he had been. Obviously, the mafia felt the same threat from him as I did, and chose to kill him, so night 2 is a wasted investigation.

So, given this information, let us put together what we know/was claimed:

Our remaining players:
Macman: One shot vig planning to use his shot today.
Lombardi: Unconfirmed/unclaimed
Mentosman: Cop
Spam: Unconfirmed/unclaimed
Ronike: Unconfirmed/unclaimed
Yaya: Unconfirmed/unclaimed
Jungle: Confirmed mason
Rockin: Confirmed mason

Given this information, as I said before, we have four possible anti-town people. Also, as said before, if we assume we were right about a 3 mafia/1 serial killer for the anti-town roles, 3 of those four are our mafia. This gives us a 75% chance of hitting a killing role(50% mafia, 25% killer, 25% chance of hitting wrong) with Macman's shot, and if hit correctly, a 66% chance of hitting a killing role with a lynch. If we shoot wrong, we know the remaining 3 are killing roles and must simply manage to hit the SK to guarantee ourselves a win.

Now, knowing this, we must simply decide the best shot/lynch to use today. I would say my top suspects are Yaya(as Macman pointed out, has had some reason for suspicion throughout), and Ronike(has REALLY been pushing the independent recruiting role idea, despite the fact that it was highly unlikely following the two deaths on n1). I think discussion should focus around these four and who the best shot/lynch combo is so that we can ensure town victory.

And, why I was curious about Jungle's role, is that so far, smashbot's theory had been strangely accurate(every even# death so far has been a vanilla role, every odd number that was revealed before that mention of his role was a power role), despite some miscalculations due to not waiting until there was enough info to go on. If Jungle had been a power role prior to masoning, I would have been able to pin that theory as being somewhat accurate, with Ronike being the SK and two of the even numbers being the vanilla mafia.

Anyway, we need to discuss this and put ourselves as town on the same page for a shot/lynch combo that gives us the best chance of those four to hit two killing roles, as that or a town shot/lynch+sk shot/lynch guarantees our victory at this point.
 

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finally jungle, i look forward to when you are able to contribute. And I agree with ronike about treating this like a lynch. I was going to propose something similar to that idea.

shoot: yaya
 

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My post was before I read mentos's.

Mentos I don't think you should post the roles. Simple because I believe it is cheating whenever someone posts the GM's pms. Even though they can easily be fabricated.

Anyways I'm going to reread the thread to see if I believe mentos's claim.

It is possible that rockin/jungle are indy mason along with mentos. But that is a huuuuuge stretch.

yaya should post, time is running out for him.
 

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Hmm... interesting. Well, though I still think that you could be a third IR member, I do see it as considerably more of a stretch now. I still have my eye on you though. I still think we should be going after Yaya regardless of this revelation though, and see who to go after from there.
 

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Also, as the posts about treating the shot as a lynch popped up while I was typing up my post, I fully agree with a yaya shot, but if we are treating this like a lynch, and Mac agrees with the idea of shooting him, I will hold off putting us one vote shy of having a majority until he responds. And I would prefer not having to post the investigation pms Mac, but if my only way to clear myself to Rockin/Jungle and give us this excellent chance for the town to win, I will do so out of necessity unless Omis says he will not allow it.
 

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I say don't even bother. It doesn't clear things any more than they already are. In my mind, either you are the cop, or you are the third IR member, in which case you can make up the info and your team mate will back you up. So don't even bother semi cheating. I'm still not entirely sure I believe you, but for now, lets just get Yaya and we shall see from there.
 

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in my previous post, i was gonna say please noone hammer vote so we can wait to get a response from yaya. and then i realized lol wtf, i control this ****, so it wouldnt even matter.
 

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Good point Ronike, I didn't even think of the fact that it would only affect Rockin/Jungle's view, as everyone else could say it was faked. And macman, I actually realized the same thing after i said that I didn't want to get it within one of the majority before he defended himself>_< But yeah, as of right now as I said I agree with a yaya shot. As I said, given what I have available knowledge-wise, that shot will(likely) hit a mafia, and if not give us the mafia and SK as the only ones remaining, so it's a risk worth taking.(this of course assuming he doesn't have a good defense that makes it not so)
 

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Yaya was on at 8:22, 40 minutes after he RL johned. So either he was lying, scum tell, or he had time to defend himself IMO. If for some reason, its neither of those, we gots a **** lot of activity right now, and Im afraid if we wait for Yaya to make a defense he may not even make, we'll lose all our activity. Anyone else agree with me?
 

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So for the record I am 90% sure mentos is telling the truth. Simply because he did defend rockin/jungle very strongly. And if rockin was a indy recruiter he should only have 2 members by day 2. So he couldn't have possibly recruited mentos in that time. Mentos has also been fairly consistent with his views which makes me believe he is town

new possibilities: mentos is scum and is tagging along with rockin/jungles claim to make him seem innocent. This imo would be a stupid move because if there was actually a cop in the game they could counter claim.

Ronike I know how you feel. I really just want to let loose on yaya right now, because I'm so curious to see if I was right and because I want to keep this beast activity going. However I want yaya to respond because I want to see him attempt to actually make a post worth something because he has yet to do so all game. And I think it is only fair. Plus I really want to see him fail miserably in defending himself.
 

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As much as I would love to see it also, I just don't see it happening any time soon. The way he said things, it sounded like it was going to take a while before he is able to come back.

In other news, I really hate to say it because of how scummy it makes me seem, but I honestly cannot shake the feeling that jungle, rockin, and mentos are having us. I know mentos defended them day 2, but I can't shake this feeling. Im going back, let you know what I find.
 

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Ok, I got nothing, but I just can't shake this feeling that I'm right... I honestly don't know what to do.
 

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We don't want ot make another mistake and kill base on inactivity again...agree with the wait

also just because he signed in doesnt really mean he had time to refuse himself...i mean..smashboards is my homepage and everytime i just online i scroll thru my subscribed threads, then i proceed to do wahtever it was i needed to do.

refuse posts take alot of time..though i dont think ive seen him make a refute post yet so...we'll see
 

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sort of. i've read the last two pages. i also read that yaya has parent johns?

so are we really going to wait an unknown amount of time?
 

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...AGHH!!!! I swear, if he is town and just this dumb and unmotivated, ima be pissed...
 

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hehehe :)

i like to sneak around the rest of the boards.

but yeah if hes just apathetic im going to be really really pissed.
 

Ronike

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Bleh, its almost 3 here... time for me to sleep... maybe when I wake up Ill start making sense again...
 

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yes i am aware you were talking about me.
wait are you calling me dumb and unmotivated?
I hope you are kidding, I really do.

If you aren't, yes. You have this page as your homepage, yet you haven't been posting and humongously lurking. You didn't even make up an excuse and now you are just ignoring everything that has been thrown at you... So to recap, yes.
 

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...AGHH!!!! I swear, if he is town and just this dumb and unmotivated, ima be pissed...
hehehe :)

i like to sneak around the rest of the boards.

but yeah if hes just apathetic im going to be really really pissed.
Hey, I don't care if it's a game or not, none of ya call Yaya names. There's life in others that no one else may fully understand.I'm pretty sure he knows the situation of this game and knows that it's active. Cut him some slack yo.

If he doesn't post by tomorrow, then we'll just shoot him.
 

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FOCUS PEOPLE,
yaya is the topic of convo.

and ronike yu seem a bit hyper, which is weird because it is hard to be hyper through the internet. relax
 

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blah sorry its like 4 here. i misunderstood

also. i do have an excuse, i fyou check back on the last page. ive been working on a paper (two actually, one due tuesdaym and one due in about 5 hours) and i also had a test tuesday and one friday. i've been a little busy to read all this shibang.
 

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3 post in one minute.

I think it is funny that we are all on this late talking about nothing.
 

Ronike

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FOCUS PEOPLE,
yaya is the topic of convo.

and ronike yu seem a bit hyper, which is weird because it is hard to be hyper through the internet. relax
3 am. I get kinda hyper when I'm tired.

blah sorry its like 4 here. i misunderstood

also. i do have an excuse, i fyou check back on the last page. ive been working on a paper (two actually, one due tuesdaym and one due in about 5 hours) and i also had a test tuesday and one friday. i've been a little busy to read all this shibang.
BULL****S!!! Ok, you have had more RL johns than I have. I don't believe you, theres only so much that can happen to a person, especially this close after midterms.
 

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3 post in one minute.

I think it is funny that we are all on this late talking about nothing.
So... anyone else watch old school digimon? Cause I am...

God I'm tired, I really should go to bed.
 

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omg I was planning on starting to watch it again, but it would bring back too many memories and make me sad because I miss my childhood.
 

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You really should, its so good... I've gone through season 2 and the two english movies and I'm halfway through season 1. Such great nostalgia...
 

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I'm giving yaya till I go to sleep tonight to atleast make some sort of defense. If he fails to do so I will shoot.
If anyone still has something to say on the matter, please speak up.
 
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