**Official Titans of Smash (ToS) Crew Thread** We Never Died

[flizzz]

Ok ill bring onion chips with garlic dip. No on is allowed to bring gum of any type or breath freshner NO ONE! (Plus every one must eat tha chips. Those are my terms)

 

[Roxas215]

Wait wtf aztec isn't in ToS is he? I mean i have no problem that he's coming but you can't let him come just cause chibo is doing a pokemon match with him and not let squall and matt come.

 

[The Phazon Assassin]

*cough*freeride*cough*

Ahem, excuse me. His point is valid, though

 

[CT Chia]

aztec isnt in tos and cant come to olympeia.

hes not talking about olympeia though, hes talking about SatS2

 

[flizzz]

sats2? i thought sats2 happend at you crib? wouldent it be sats3? THIS IS BLASPHEMY

 

[CT Chia]

sats2 was scheduled for last year but got canceled. its resurrected (and pretty differ now)

 

[Aztec Avenger]

aztec isnt in tos and cant come to olympeia.

hes not talking about olympeia though, hes talking about SatS2

Yeah, what he said, everything I was talking about was about Smash at the Shore 2. Sorry if I confused you guys.

 

[Jigglymaster]

In Soviet Russia, Jigglypuff beats YOU.

 

[CT Chia]

i should be able to actually house ppl tonight before Olympeia. Absolute last final time smashing at my apartment

However you can't come till like around 8 or so I would think. I'll ask my parents soon what time i think theyr leaving, since theyr coming up today to essentially move everything out.

 

[flizzz]

Well in raciest america zapdos and hippodon beats every thing

 

[Aztec Avenger]

In Soviet Russia, Jigglypuff beats YOU.

Talking about Soviet Russia.............

 

[Turbo Ether]

^ Red Son, I believe.

 

[Aztec Avenger]

Yup, I recently read it,and that book is just too much win.

 

[Bnzaaa]

Why is Wobbefet is so good?

Encore (Repeats same move for 2-6 turns)
Counter (Does double damage when hit with a phisical move)
Mirror Coat (Does double damage when hit with a special move)
Safeguard (Prevents status effects for 5 turns for the whole team)
Destiny Bond (When KO'd it KO's the opponent also)
Splash (Doens't do anything)
Charm (Sharply lowers Attack)

Shadow Tag ability doesn't allow opponents to switch.

With those moves to choose from the moveset would probably look like this...

Encore
Counter
Mirror Coat
Destiny Bond


Encore forces you to use your moves over and over, eliminating the guessing game of phyical/special attack. Destiny Bond is used to take out opponent should Wobbefet's HP be too low to counterattack. With the inablity to switch out and being stuck with an attack, they'll be doomed to their fate. There's a way around this.

I may be wrong about the Destiny Bond thing since Wobbefet has no speed whatsoever. Safeguard would insure that no status effects weaken Wobbefet, but that could be remedied by having a Baton Passer or another Pokemon in your party use that move.

Is this why he's banned?

 

[Turbo Ether]

Yup, I recently read it,and that book is just too much win.

It's good to see people take an active interest in American comics.

Bnzaaa: I think Wobbuffet is banned, because a 1v1 between two Wobbuffets holding leftovers, cannot end. When both Wobbuffets eventually run out of PP, Struggle won't be able to outdamage the healing from the Leftovers, resulting in a stalemate.

 

[CT Chia]

Bnzaaa, you have Encore wrong. Encore makes ur opponent repeat the last move they used 2-6 times, not you.

Wobbuffet is ridiculous.

Also for your set, instead of Destiny Bond use Charm or Safeguard.

There are plenty of sets of pokemon that are used as supporters with no moves that when battling each other can not end. This was however one of the reasons why he was banned back in the RSE generation, because you could send a Wobbuffet in on a Wobbuffet and the game was over since neither could switch. This was fixed in the DPPt generation though as a new effect of Shadow Tag is that if both active Pokemon have Shadow Tag, they are allowed to switch. This doesn't stop him from being Uber though.

The one and only set for Wobbuffet. With little prediction, or none at all if Encore is used, Wobbuffet can guarantee at least one kill. Choose Counter if your opponent is clearly a physical sweeper or Mirror Coat if it's special. If it's mixed, simply use Encore and proceed from there since your opponent can't switch out. Encore can also work to your benefit if the opponent chooses to use a stat up move as this will allow a free switch-in for one of your Pokemon and at least one turn of setup. Encore can also be used to PP stall if it comes down to that. Forcing a Pokemon to repeat a move while preventing them from switching is one of the most sadistic, and effective, strategies in Pokemon. Both Charm and Safeguard can come in handy as your last move. Charm can annoy physical attackers that attempt to set up on you and is particularly effective if they have been Encored. Safeguard is obviously there to prevent Wobbuffet from being crippled by status ailments and can support the team at the same time. The only downside is that Wobbuffet is very slow and will most likely be statused before it can use Safeguard. For this reason Wobbuffet works best with Aromatherapy or Heal Bell support. One of the main factors that prevents Wobbuffet from being a top tier uber is its lack of a recovery move, so having a teammate to support it with Wish can help ensure its longevity. Also, because of the powerhouses that dominate ubers, Wobbuffet will struggle against hard hitters such as Dragon Dance Rayquaza or Choice Specs Kyogre; as such, Light Screen and Reflect support allow Wobbuffet to perform its job significantly better.

Despite its tiny movepool, a lot can be said about Wobbuffet. It jumped straight into the Ubers tier in the Advance generation mainly because of its unique ability, which utterly shatters the concept of switching and countering. Nintendo changed Shadow Tag around in D/P so that two Pokémon with this same ability will be able to switch if both are sent out. This means the dreaded scenario of two Wobbuffet facing each other will no longer end in a draw. However, Shadow Tag is still a ridiculous ability and the abundance of Choice items limiting Pokémon to only one attack makes Wobbuffet's job even easier. The only thing that prevents Wobbuffet from being a complete god among Pokémon is the lack of a recovery move, which can be rectified by surrounding it with Wish support. While Wobbuffet isn't able to take some of the hardest hitters in the uber tier such as Swords Dance Groudon or Choice Specs Kyogre, Wobbuffet's ability to turn the game in your favor by eliminating that problem Pokemon or allowing you free turns of set up should never be underestimated.

Wobbuffet was moved to the OU tier after little data proving that he was actually Uber tier without proper testing. That only lasted a month however, as at the end of June 2008 he was proven to be way overpowered for the OU tier.

 

[Clai]

i havnt even seen inui or kosh, but vex's gdorf >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone.

especially bums lolol

So... nobody's even going to mention my Ganondorf, huh, even when I'm the only one that uses him in standard tournaments (a.k.a. not low-tier only ones)?

You guys suck.

 

[Talwind]

Shadow Tag is broken.

 

[Max Ketchum]

Shadow Tag IS very broken.

Clai, using a novelty character in standard format tourneys doesn't make you better or worth mentioning by default. Inui's Ganon is downright sick, even if he never busts him out against real characters.

You do have a pretty good Ganon, though, and I'd give you some recognition.

 

[Turbo Ether]

My knowledge of the Pokemon metagame is mad stale. I was oblivious to the fact that they fixed Shadow Tag in Diamond/Pearl.

 

[Aztec Avenger]

Ok ill bring onion chips with garlic dip. No on is allowed to bring gum of any type or breath freshner NO ONE! (Plus every one must eat tha chips. Those are my terms)

As long as there art Dip, I shall eateth the chips.

 

[Bnzaaa]

Bnzaaa: I think Wobbuffet is banned, because a 1v1 between two Wobbuffets holding leftovers, cannot end. When both Wobbuffets eventually run out of PP, Struggle won't be able to outdamage the healing from the Leftovers, resulting in a stalemate.

Makes sense. Never thought of that really.

Bnzaaa, you have Encore wrong. Encore makes ur opponent repeat the last move they used 2-6 times, not you.

Wobbuffet is ridiculous.

Also for your set, instead of Destiny Bond use Charm or Safeguard.

Yeah, that's what I meant . Forgot the 'Forces your opponent to repeat the last move used...'

Now that I think about it, I'd probably use Safeguard over Destiny Bond anyway.

 

[Jigglymaster]

So... nobody's even going to mention my Ganondorf, huh, even when I'm the only one that uses him in standard tournaments (a.k.a. not low-tier only ones)?

You guys suck.

Inui did mention you in a later post on the tier list discussion topic.

 

[Clai]

Clai, using a novelty character in standard format tourneys doesn't make you better or worth mentioning by default. Inui's Ganon is downright sick, even if he never busts him out against real characters.

You do have a pretty good Ganon, though, and I'd give you some recognition.

Actually I put that in there because Vex states himself that I'm a better Ganon than he is (more specifically, I'm more skilled at Ganon than he is; Vex wins in the mindgame department). I'm just surprised that nobody even gave me recognition even though just about everyone in ToS has played and complimented my Ganon.

I've never played Inui in a ditto, nor have I seen him use Ganon, so I can't comment on that.

 

[Beat]

Let's talk about how amazing Brawl+ is.

 

[Jigglymaster]

Give your Puffball some extra encouragement when you play on Jigglypuff's New Stage.

I introduce to you, my first texture hacked stage...

Jigglypuff Stadium!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emPul_Pz610

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emPul_Pz610

You can download it here. http://rapidshare.com/files/238725193/Jigglypuffstadium.pac

I can put any picture in that circle, it fairly easy too. So, for those who can texture hack if you want your own pokemon stadium level please make a 256x256 picture and I can include it in there for you.

 

[Clai]

Jiggly.

I'm going to purposely mess up my thunderstomps on that stage just so I can get the satisfaction of stomping Jigglypuff's eyes over and over and over again. Plus Volcano Kicks just so Jigglypuff will suffer more. How can Jigglypuff warrant her own stage? It's unbelievable.

 

[flizzz]

Clai I liked your old avitar better. That purple sun guy is just gay

 

[KayLo!]

Clai I liked your old avitar better. That purple sun guy is just gay

And a Zapdos plushie is.......?

<3

 

[Roxas215]

And a Zapdos plushie is.......?

<3

I was going to say the same thing.

 

[Benny The Jet Rodriguez]

Actually I put that in there because Vex states himself that I'm a better Ganon than he is (more specifically, I'm more skilled at Ganon than he is; Vex wins in the mindgame department). I'm just surprised that nobody even gave me recognition even though just about everyone in ToS has played and complimented my Ganon.

Yeah, you can make that specific compliment, but in the end what matters as far as having a good <character> is whether or not you win and by how much. That's why (and this is not directed at you) people learning all the ATs for, say, Link, a character with a lot of them still can go into tourney, do badly, and get remembered as a bad Link.

 

[The Phazon Assassin]

I bet you were.....

 

[Aztec Avenger]

Yeah, you can make that specific compliment, but in the end what matters as far as having a good <character> is whether or not you win and by how much. That's why (and this is not directed at you) people learning all the ATs for, say, Link, a character with a lot of them still can go into tourney, do badly, and get remembered as a bad Link.

I think that depends sometimes, cause if you don't use the characters like their suppose to, then people will just think you know their fancy tricks, but if you pull out some nasty combo's then people will be like "A link can do that?". or whatever character you're using. Then again I'm a scrub, so maybe it's more about winning.

 

[flizzz]

Hay! zapdos is a god among pokemon. putting him into a plushie form, makes it easier to understand the kind and caring heart behind this awesome creature.

 

[KayLo!]

Hay! zapdos is a god among pokemon. putting him into a plushie form, makes it easier to understand the kind and caring heart behind this awesome creature.

@.@ wut?!?!?

Also, Brawl is getting boring for me, guys. To the point where I haven't wanted to play for the past week+ or so....... help me.

And no, I won't pick up MK.

 

[Steel]

same, play melee

OR THIS

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[The Phazon Assassin]

You should try and go out to play Brawl.

With other people.

Offline.

 

[KayLo!]

You should try and go out to play Brawl.

With other people.

Offline.

Ha ha, you're funny. /sarcasm

The game itself is boring me. Everything.... about it, not just wifi. But if you think you can rearrange my schedule to make more time for me to play it offline, I'll PM my next week to you so you can try.

 

[Deleted member]

no show

 

[KayLo!]

:embarrass

(How the f is that an embarrassed face??)