Official SWF Tier List v8

[Aidebit]

Agreed. PT sucks.

 

[Ghostbone]

Pokemon Trainer is pretty terrible.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

 

[Z'zgashi]

I could see why they'd think Bowser > Ness. Bowser has better mobility, an air grab, and gets gayed even less than Ness.

Not that I think Bowser is better (I don't) I can just see why someone could think that.

I do think Bowser is pretty underrated though, not that he should move up much so much as people tend to think he's more garbage than he actually is (still trash, but not as bad as people usually think). As someone who plays Bowser and Mario, I can tell you from my experiences with the two that I feel Bowser is most definitely better than Mario, even if it isnt by much.

I dont know why I felt like saying all that, but I did, so whatever.

 

[Luco]

I dont know why I felt like saying all that, but I did, so whatever.

I kinda hate how people 'have' to say this to avoid getting "why did you even say that lol?"

Not that i'm annoyed that gashi said it, just that i've always felt like it's a random after-statement that we feel we have to say to avoid people thinking we're weird for saying a lot/a little/etc.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I more meant it as in I went into a little tangent that no one really cares about and has nothing to do with the current topic.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Also, without the disclaimer, this becomes an opinionfest where people that disagree with your idea call you names for not sharing the idea. Even though nobody is right or wrong when it comes to opinions.

 

[Ghostbone]

Also, without the disclaimer, this becomes an opinionfest where people that disagree with your idea call you names for not sharing the idea. Even though nobody is right or wrong when it comes to opinions.

You're wrong about your opinion on the validity of opinions.

 

[Spelt]

Experience has taught me that everyone besides myself is wrong about opinions. And as we all know, experience is the best learning mechanism.

 

[Z'zgashi]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

 

[pidgezero_one]

I think people need to get over the idea that anyone calls you names "just because you disagree with them"

the thought process isn't "i disagree with you therefore you're wrong", it's "you're wrong therefore i disagree with you"

 

[1PokeMastr]

Apparently Teapots, such as myself can not give a valid opinion.

Opinions anyone ? Fellow Teapots are welcome!

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Apparently Teapots, such as myself can not give a valid opinion.

Opinions anyone ? Fellow Teapots are welcome!

I've never understood why you call yourself a teapot.

you're neither short nor stout.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

but dude
when he gets all steamed up

holy ****

 

[Deleted member 189823]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

 

[Thor]

I think people need to get over the idea that anyone calls you names "just because you disagree with them"

the thought process isn't "i disagree with you therefore you're wrong", it's "you're wrong therefore i disagree with you"

*facepalm* The fallacies here are numerous enough for me to laugh then cry...

Let's start with the obvious issue - the thought process is "I have an opinion and yours is in conflict with mine, and since I believe I'm right I conclude you are wrong." The latter in your quote makes the presupposition you are right (rest assured, you're not, or else you would be able to give me proof you had literally never been wrong about anything ever, ever. And the fact that that video with you vs Vinnie posted on this site somewhere means you made at least a few wrong reads and therefore have not always been right).

The former process (the one you state is wrong) is extremely arrogant and also fallacious because it begs the question of a state of always being right, and also that there IS a right answer (I won't say there isn't a right answer [not even going there] but I take issue with the assumption that one is always right which is empirically denied, which means to conclude someone else is wrong because they disagree with you is incorrect).

And yes people call others names just because they don't share the same opinions. Congress is one prime example, but I can also just say "you're stupid for thinking that" and your statement is false. There is however the option to just label the other person an (whatever they called you) as well and move on because it would be entirely reciprocal (yes I just gave you permission to label me stupid and no I don't care).

And if you say I don't have a right to post here or whatever, blame 1PokeMastr - he was the one who welcomed fellow teapots, and when I get steamed up, holy **** [so I probably qualify as a teapot].

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

(yes I just gave you permission to label me stupid and no I don't care).

**** YES I CAN CALL HIM STUPID AND NOT GET INFRACTED!!!!

Right mods? If he gives me permission I can do it right?


Right?




















Or is it left?

 

[thrillagorilla]

Or is it left?

Yes, that's right.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Yes, that's right.

Wonderful

 

[1PokeMastr]

I will not accept someone who blames their rage as them steaming like a teapot.

You're more of a pot than anything.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I will not accept someone who blames their rage as them steaming like a teapot.

You're more of a pot than anything.

Pothead

 

[Thor]

]**** YES I CAN CALL HIM STUPID AND NOT GET INFRACTED!!!![/COLOR]

I will not accept someone who blames their rage as them steaming like a teapot.

You're more of a pot than anything.

Well I wasn't actually raging, more like lamenting (note the word "cry") - the teapot thing was a farce to justify my post [and it was surprisingly successful]. Also say NO to drugs. And I'm tall and skinny (believe it or not).

While you can call me stupid, it in no way improves your single-digit IQ. But I guess dumb people need a sense of self-worth from somewhere. Technically I was giving JitB permission to call me stupid (since I called her stupid) but I don't think you have the brain to grasp those distinctions. And I will admit I'm mildly impressed at your ability to rip things out of context. And ironically if retaliation is the order of the day, because two wrongs make a wronger = right = left, then yes you could at this point. But only because it's a left.

---

Way too long for your brain, so yeah, you can. Whatever.

Let's get back on topic. Pokémon Trainer would look better if someone was able to play all three pokemon at a very high level of skill, or if three people were allowed to team up and change hands of the controller whenever their respective mains were out. But somehow I think that's not allowed.

 

[infiniteV115]

How is this thread even wat

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

you can call me stupid

**** yes permission!

And I will admit I'm mildly impressed at your ability

Glad you find me so impressive bro, it must have been hard to say that.

Way too long for your brain, so yeah, you can. Whatever.

If you're going to insinuate that someone is dumb, you should probably make sure they don't actually have a higher IQ than you do.

Let's get back on topic. Pokémon Trainer would look better if someone was able to play all three pokemon at a very high level of skill, or if three people were allowed to team up and change hands of the controller whenever their respective mains were out. But somehow I think that's not allowed.

THAT WOULD BE SO ****ING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Grim Tuesday]

*facepalm* The fallacies here are numerous enough for me to laugh then cry...

Let's start with the obvious issue - the thought process is "I have an opinion and yours is in conflict with mine, and since I believe I'm right I conclude you are wrong." The latter in your quote makes the presupposition you are right (rest assured, you're not, or else you would be able to give me proof you had literally never been wrong about anything ever, ever. And the fact that that video with you vs Vinnie posted on this site somewhere means you made at least a few wrong reads and therefore have not always been right).

The former process (the one you state is wrong) is extremely arrogant and also fallacious because it begs the question of a state of always being right, and also that there IS a right answer (I won't say there isn't a right answer [not even going there] but I take issue with the assumption that one is always right which is empirically denied, which means to conclude someone else is wrong because they disagree with you is incorrect).

And yes people call others names just because they don't share the same opinions. Congress is one prime example, but I can also just say "you're stupid for thinking that" and your statement is false. There is however the option to just label the other person an (whatever they called you) as well and move on because it would be entirely reciprocal (yes I just gave you permission to label me stupid and no I don't care).

And if you say I don't have a right to post here or whatever, blame 1PokeMastr - he was the one who welcomed fellow teapots, and when I get steamed up, holy **** [so I probably qualify as a teapot].

Well I wasn't actually raging, more like lamenting (note the word "cry") - the teapot thing was a farce to justify my post [and it was surprisingly successful]. Also say NO to drugs. And I'm tall and skinny (believe it or not).

While you can call me stupid, it in no way improves your single-digit IQ. But I guess dumb people need a sense of self-worth from somewhere. Technically I was giving JitB permission to call me stupid (since I called her stupid) but I don't think you have the brain to grasp those distinctions. And I will admit I'm mildly impressed at your ability to rip things out of context. And ironically if retaliation is the order of the day, because two wrongs make a wronger = right = left, then yes you could at this point. But only because it's a left.

---

Way too long for your brain, so yeah, you can. Whatever.

TG: omg you type like a tool

Let's get back on topic. Pokémon Trainer would look better if someone was able to play all three pokemon at a very high level of skill, or if three people were allowed to team up and change hands of the controller whenever their respective mains were out. But somehow I think that's not allowed.

disagree because ivysaur is literally the worst character in the game, Charizard isn't very good and yes Squirtle is amazing but you can just time them all out and then they suck due to fatigue

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

disagree because ivysaur is literally the worst character in the game, Charizard isn't very good and yes Squirtle is amazing but you can just time them all out and then they suck due to fatigue

idk about Ivysaur being the worst character in the game. I mean, she has a projectile and fairly good range. And Reflex does some NASTY **** with Ivysaur.

 

[Astronut]

It would be cool if Brawl could function with the Wii microphone, so you could yell out Pokemon Trainer's moves in order for them to actually come out.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

It would be cool if Brawl could function with the Wii microphone, so you could yell out Pokemon Trainer's moves in order for them to actually come out.

"Charizard! Use Rock Smash"

"No Charizard I told you to use Rock Smash not to kill yourself you stupid Dragon!"

"What? It's not even a Dragon type? **** this game"

 

[Grim Tuesday]

looking pretty =/= actually being good
much to the chagrin of low tier mains (lol at all their combo videos and stuff)

her damage output is horrendous, her projectile is meh, there are so many situations where she has no options (like any time she is above you lol)

put her off stage and she dies
wait for like a minute and she is COMPLETELY useless

ivy loses so badly to MK, ICs, Olimar, Diddy, Marth, Snake, Dedede, G&W, ROB
probably more

all imo of course

 

[Astronut]

If Squirtle was a standalone character, where would he be on the tier list?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Assuming no fatigue, somewhere in B Tier.

 

[NickRiddle]

Mid tier.
Because Marth.
And that statement was never said again.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

How is this thread even wat

as an official windrammer i approve this message

 

[Thor]

If you're going to insinuate that someone is dumb, you should probably make sure they don't actually have a higher IQ than you do.

Join Mensa (I did) or whatever equivalent is around you and we can compare IQs, but last I checked mine's above 150. Sorry for assuming I'm smarter than you, but that assumption usually turns out to be right when I'm on video game forum boards (just a trend I noticed).

TG: omg you type like a tool

Would you prefer I make baseless assertions and expect people to agree with me?

Also shouting into a wiimote seems highly unstrategic for mindgames. And what happens if your opponent tries to yell into your wiimote and then punish the lag?

 

[Shaya]

For someone with 150 IQ, you sure have multiple signs of onset dementia.

I know the quality of this thread is poor, and things are being looked at, but you need not tout your emotions on this board. That's what they want.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I'd prefer you treat the people you talk on SWF to like actual human beings behind a keyboard
rather than adversaries and instruments for your autistic delusions of grandeur

 

[Astronut]

Also shouting into a wiimote seems highly unstrategic for mindgames. And what happens if your opponent tries to yell into your wiimote and then punish the lag?

Microphone sabotage is all part of the game. Btw, they should incorporate a ddr pad for movement. The mic is just for attacks.

 

[Thor]

I'd prefer you treat the people you talk on SWF to like actual human beings behind a keyboard
rather than adversaries and instruments for your autistic delusions of grandeur

I'll try starting over [EDIT: I mean a reset on my part of my assumptions of others here], but given that my first introduction to the boards was an ad hom, I'm not sure what kind of results to expect. Here goes...

For someone with 150 IQ, you sure have multiple signs of onset dementia.

Hopefully it's more like delirium.

Sooooo... that post mentioned Pikachu being worse than DK... am I allowed to disagree with that? I mean, the only high-tier MU Pika does worse in is vs Marth... and I guess Jigglypuff.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

last I checked mine's above 150.

Yo really! Me too! 158 here!

 

[Shaya]

This thread isn't about IQs. Let's leave jigglysir's last comment as it is, the last comment.