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To be fair, MikeHAZE did die for not SDIing the spike.....
Well, on the attacker's side, I guess it's a bit of OCD, but on the defender's side, I think Phantom Hits are ridiculous because it punishes him for having that perfect defensive spacing. You want to be as close as you can while avoiding an attack so that you can punish it as quickly and and as maximally as you can. Why should I be damaged for that? If I didn't receive KB, I wasn't hit. Glancing Blows got it right, IMO.Haha, then yes. Both of them aren't going to do knock-back, the chances are the other opponent is going to punish you for it, it's definitely better to at least have given him some damage.
I can respect OCD but aren't phantom hits just 'objectively' better because they're the same thing, except phantom hits do at least a little damage? It's not great... but it's better.
As I said, I can respect OCD... i'm very much like that myself.
I'll be honest; I really don't like this elitist attitude. Why the heck can't we argue with top/high players just because they're more successful? Yes, they probably know more about their characters, but they don't know everything and they CAN be wrong. If we all assumed that M2K was always right, just because he was the best MK and arguably the best Brawl player, then how dumb would MK's MUs look now?
What's the difference between PSing and regular shielding then?
While true, I would still side with Kain on this one and the SDI stuff.
I honestly thought it was.....
Well, to be fair, just trying out a tech for yourself doesn't really say much (and I believe Alphicans talked to you about this exact same thing). I could find a tech to be really hard for me to perform consistently but someone else thinks it's easy and vice versa. This is somewhat of a problem in our discussions here. What gets labelled as easy enough to be done consistently by all high-level players?
I watched this, and it does indeed show FOW SDIing the spike onto the stage, but during the very next stock, he doesn't SDI it and is placed into a very dangerous position offstage where he's forced to PKT2. So what I'm getting from only this is that the tech is obviously possible and feasible but not necessarily consistent. I just witnessed a 50% success rate out of two consecutive tries (obviously a super small sample size).
Again, if one looks at the stock directly prior to this one, he will see that RAIN fails to SDI the spike and he dies for it from the subsequent ledgehog. Once more, I am witnessing a 50% success rate from two consecutive instances. However, this time, I went back far enough to observe the first stock as well, since this match was extremely short (and it was clear why). RAIN also failed to SDI the first CG spike which led to the exact same death via edgehog. That just reduced the consistency for this set to 33% and the consistency for my total of 5 observed stocks to 40%.
From what I've heard about SDIing Falco's spike onto the stage, I'd imagine that Jebus is right in this case. The closer to the ledge Falco ends his CG, the farther offstage his opponent is and the more difficult it is for him to SDI back onstage.
PSing eliminates shield push and shield damage.
It was actually the exact opposite; I was telling people something was easy because I personally found it easy, and he was saying that people should try it out for themselves and determine whether it's easy for them (ie what I just told Jebus to do) because if it's hard for them and they try it anyway it could cost them.
DIing Falco's spike is easy. Plank u-air punishing is not very viableHe also has videos of characters consistently punishing mks planking. If its so easy to do, how come im having trouble trying to find vids of someone doing it consistently?
Smart dude. A lot of people think you should SDI Falco's spike just because its possible, but don't think enough to realize it's better not to for some characters. I'd rather just use Yoshi's super armor and take the hit rather than sdi onto the stage to get hit again.I don't SDI to the stage because I get hit for it. I only die from the dair when I mess up an input
I think being on the ledge against Falco is much better than eating a free gatling combo on reaction.Even with characters that don't it stops you from being in a bad position.
By shield push, do you mean when you get hit and slide back in shield normally? Because, if I recall, you do still move a tiny bit. It could be the attacker i'm thinking of but I recall PSing on the ledge and then falling and grabbing the ledge.
Can Falco actually adjust the leght of his CG against opponents with, say, over 15% damage?
lol PSC. I am yet to see someone willingly performing it in-game.
