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It adds a new fighting style to the game. I mean using a lance would be using a LONG weapon which you would have to altar your play style to use from say Marth.
O_oFinal Smash erases all game data.
of course it would go like this he has a move that when used he wins infact all his specials would do that so he wont be god tier he would be sakurai tierNo way ! He would make himself God Tier
And 1 step closer to my Smash Brothers related dream.
So in a way Chibi-Robo would truly make a great WTF character
Marth doesn't have crap compared to Ike!O_o
So in a way Chibi-Robo would truly make a great WTF character
Um just because you have a lance doesn't mean you have an even longer attack. Marth has a very long sword that gives him a big disjointed hit box.
and a lance would be as long if not LONGER than Ike's sword (Ragnell).
Marth and Ike have about the same amount of rangeMarth doesn't have crap compared to Ike!
Call it stirring the pot
Ike's AAA has much longer reach than anything of Marth'sMarth and Ike have about the same amount of range
I'm not saying a lance wouldn't be long. . . .
besides if you have lance that doesn't mean you could use it at max range each attack.
i think this should have been in brawl i hope this gets in the next one if they make itCall it stirring the pot
Anyway. Costumes. Everyone should have one.
Mario -> Dr. Mario
Luigi -> Mr L.
Peach -> Daisy
Bowser -> Dry Bones Dowser
Bowser Jr. -> Baby Bowser
Wario -> Overalls Wario
Yoshi -> Yoshi Jr. (grown up)
Donkey Kong -> Funky Kong
Diddy Kong and Dixie Kong -> ???
King K Rool -> Pirate K Rool
Link / Wolf Link -> Zora Armor Link / Armored Wolf Link
Zelda / Shiek -> Uhhh.... Melee Zelda / Melee Shiek
Ganondorf -> Melee Ganondorf
Toon Link -> Island Link
Tingle -> Another one of the annoying looking *RAGE* 'Faries'
Pikachu -> Raichu
PT (Squ, Char, Ivy) -> Gold PT (Clone Looks from the Movie. That style anyway)
FPT (Jiggs, Pichu, Gardivour) -> Gold FPT (Clone looks from the Movie. That style anyway)
Lucario -> ???
Mewtwo -> Mewtwo in that awesome armor from the movie
5th gen
Kirby -> ???
Meta-Knight -> Galactic Knight
King Dedede -> ???
Ness -> Ninten
Lucas -> Claus
Fox -> Bill
Falco -> Assault look Falco
Wolf -> Assault look Wolf
Marth -> Roy
Ike -> RD Ike
New FE lord -> A girl hopefully
Captain Falcon -> Pico
Black Shadow -> Death Born
Samus/Zero Suit Samus -> Dark Samus/Dark Suit Samus
Ice Climbers -> Play as the other one that they never let you use.
Pit -> ???
Lil Mac -> ???
Starfy -> Starly
Captain Olimar -> Louie
Isaac -> Felix
Ray 01 -> Ray 02
Andy -> Will
ROB -> ???
Mr. Game and Watch -> Mr. Game and Mario
Diskun -> ???
Sonic -> Shadow
Snake -> Old Snake
Megaman -> Megaman Neo
I wouldn't mind seeing a lance user show up, I wouldn't support or be against it. I would just be mad if someone like Nephenee ended up getting in when even Mic would have been a better fire emblem rep. The longest I would want to see a weapon would be as long or just as long as Ike/ Marths sword. Ike and Marths swords are about the same length in brawl. A lance in smash bros might be long, but I would presume his long range moves would have a good amount of lag.
, just look at ROB.
Srry if this is a Double Post...Call it stirring the pot
Anyway. Costumes. Everyone should have one.
Marth -> Roy
Ike -> RD Ike
New FE lord -> A girl hopefully
Ok one of the main reasons everyone puts new fire emblem lord is because no one wants to start the old Lyn/Roy/ Siglud argument again.
Haven't I been over why Micaiah and Ike aren't switchable? They are completely different and RD was mainly about Micaiah and Ike was the other Lord that helped her by kickin some butt.
They are completely when it comes to weapons, stats, and even personality. And micaiah and Ike both shared an equal role in RD.
Did they both fight for their friends?
Sadly yes. . . . . . .Did they both fight for their friends?
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Why have one or the other when we can have both?
☆ Because I haven't seen them fight.... where do I go from here? =P ☆
I don't see anything wrong with that
How did they have an equal role? (no matter what I say I still love Ike as a character) Ike was just continuing his role in PoR, helping people with mercenary work and people that helped/his friends in PoR and
Ike was fighting to save his country, people, and friends. They had identical roles, they were just made to fight each other for opposing view points. Also Micaiah needed Ike to defeat the lats boss, you needed both.
Oh, you just blew it, I'm really tired of this whole argument and I REEEEEEALY don't want to start one about Roy, but Roy just really shouldn't take the place from someone since he's a clone.
He was a clone, you never know if he will end up a clone again or not. He could end up like a semi clone like Toon Link.
Yeah, you're right, but I'd still like to share my ideas on them w/o going into a 3 pg. argument
Yeah, one thing I hate about this thread, is that ever little thing can be turned into a big argument
Uh...speaking of that...Yeah, one thing I hate about this thread, is that ever little thing can be turned into a big argument
I don't feel that I should go over these types of things too much since they go off topic from what we are actually debating, but while I guess the definition of evil is subjective and what not, Bern is very much a miltary state trying to take over the world, get rid of humanity, and have dragons run the show. He's really not acting like a douchebag, but rather just being insane. (He has reasons for this of course, but that doesn't change the fact that he's nuts)
And? I guess this isn't actually something that needed to be brought up, since its at the core of every main character of FE, so calling this generic is a moot point.
If you say it like that it seems like he lost his humanity there. He is still trying to bring peace though, what with the believing in mankind thing, and trying to stop the dragons from taking over.
Intelligance, like making friends along the way, is a moot point on reconsideration. All the FE mains have to have it, since its indivative to the nature of the game. Thus basing the fact if its generic or not doesn't quite matter I guess. Also I'm curious why you don't think that Sigurd has a chance, since you seemed to be defending him before despite his already used apperance/weilding a sword. If its because he has a outdated game that was only released in Japan, it'd be kind of silly considering your stance on Roy.
I don't want to go all the way back to my original post, but if I recall this was just mocking one of your statements, rather than being serious. <_<
That's still pretty much jumping to conclusions in terms of the personalities though. I guess the problem here though is their depiction in Smash Bros, rather than their depiction in their own games, where Marth and Roy have virtually the same personality. (Where the problem seems to be depicted as more feminine. In any case with the made up personalities, Ike kind of usurped your idea for Roy.
Uh, I wasn't talking about Ike and Marth. I was talking about Ephraim and Eirika, the lords of FE8.
My main argument is that Fire Emblem shouldn't keep on having the same type of character. Its not a want of lances, axes, mages, and what not, its a diswant of another sword users from Fire Emblem, or at least the same type of sword user (Lyn probably wouldn't fight that way...but Lyn's probably not getting in anyways, so disregard this) The series should be expanded, instead of having three characters who are virtually the same, outside some fairly insignificant differences. Quite frankly, I'd be fine if the FE series only stays with Ike and Marth, and doesn't get a new character, since that will still be better than overloading the franchise with more of the same.
I don't think a analogy about a lost dog is quite apt since we can only assume that the girl liked her dog for her special bond that they developed together. It'd be more apt to put in say a doll, since any bond that's generated between the girl and the doll would be more akin to any that a player would generate between themself and Roy. In any case, it still stands that most connections that these average fans have is created by the aethetics of Roy, rather than Roy himself, and thus he can be replaced, since despite your analogy, there isn't that much emotional attachment. Of course some will still complain, but everyone complains about everything in these types of games, since no one's dream roster will be perfect. Plus, its not like there's a overwhelimg majority of people who want Roy, since I'm pretty sure that most of Smash fans don't really care. Its just those vocal few who don't aren't really that big into Fire Emblem, yet still seemed to develop a attachment to Roy instead of being indifferent like most are. Even Mewtwo, who clearly has more people complaining about him, is pretty unlikely, as the fanbase is mostly confined to message boards. Of course this makes me wonder what exactly the Japanese stance on Roy's cut was, since their fan base is almost certainly the one that could push in these types of characters through.
I'm saying if fan demand was high enough, then Roy would have gotten in anyways, since he would have been priority. Look at Falco. He was a clone who had enough fan popularity that he got in despite the fact that there was a new character added. (And it speaks even more for him, since the new character pushed in was a clone as well) Also, while its true that I doubt that many were expecting Doc, Pichu, and especially MC, I do remember what it was like Pre-Brawl, and more people were expecting Geno than Roy, even though Geno's inclusion made no sense. (Heck, near the end, I think the only one who was expected more than Geno was Ridley, and we know how all that turned out.
) ....Wat?
Then it shouldn't matter at all who they include, since the FE game won't matter that much, thus they should please the fans by putting someone who better at expanding the series. It won't bother the average person, since it doesn't matter to them, according to you.
Uh...because you tell him more than "I like Moltres. :3" I guess? That's how those letters went anyways. Plus given that Pokemon is a bigger franchise than Smash isn't that kind of like saying "I like doughnuts :3" and Sakurai not being able to tell if you like the doughnut food item in smash, or the actual food? (Plus, Moltres is pretty bad for a legendary in Brawl. Why would you like him because of his apperance there?
)Again, its not these type of people that the roster should be generated for. Marth and Roy don't even exist in the same universe. Given the total disregard to each of their characters, I don't see the problem at all with cutting one, and adding another, since the people are just generating stuff in their head.
1. Iirc, I haven't even seen you post here that much (if at all).
