Some people make me want to argue. :/
ok guys heres the low down, brawl is a joke with all these stupid *** characters , but the thing is that i love the game.
Honestly, how do you love a 'joke game' with 'stupid characters'? Either you love this game more than you think, or you hate the game more than you think. Or I've misunderstood. Brawl is not a joke. I mean, come on, there are tournaments, communities, vides, memes, etc... all about Brawl. It's serious. And it doesn't make a lot of sense to say that in a smash website.
The new ssb should have zero stupid characters , only cool famous bad *** characters recognized by fans world wide . Who are these stupid characters in the brawl roster? all of them EXCLUDING , Ike , Captain falcon , Link . zelda , sonic * even though in brawl he looks so so stupid and annoying* and maybe zss*yea she looks cool so what?
It is impossible to please every single purchaser of the game. Too bad you hate all but 6 of them. So saying that the SSB4 should have '"zero stupid characters" is impossible because everyone will hate a certain character. Although that is more possible if you use less characters.
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Don't you recognize them? That's seriously dissing what they'd done for videogames and how popular and well known they are. Sorry Metaknight wasn't cool enough for you. Sorry wolf wasn't bad *** enough for you. To bad you think Sonic looks stupid, actually he doesn't. (Although I can't argue annoying...). Oh, sure, ZSS looks cool, but Samus doesn't. Samus just doesn't look right? Hmm, I wonder why?
That said it only leaves these 6 characters to start a new. First of all , the new super smash bros series would be over 9000 times better if it appealed to teens-late teens and young adults instead of children preteens and teens. The reason i love brawl so much is cause of its game play and fluid fighting engine. So with such good characteristics it could be better with actually good looking characters* i will mention some at the end*.
Sorry you haven't noticed, but Sakurai, wanted smash to be a friendly party game. Meaning TO APPEAL TO EVERYONE!!! It has just as much appeal to my 5 year old cuz as it does with my father. Oh, and nintendo only has so many options once you scrap all but 6 characters. Not impossible, but that's a
GIGANTIC blow from losing their main-stream more well known characters.
So the reason you love Brawl is because of the physics? And of course your'e precious cool six characters too. Probably many people who love brawl more than you do hate or strongly dislike the majority of the cast, but don't go off complaining that "Only the cool characters should have made it in brawl. Bowser and Pikachu are not cool, they're kiddy and ought to never be put in SSB4." And it could because of the matchups, but not the actual character!
Dont get me wrong I know that the wii is a younger croud console but it doesnt have to apply to its best selling games and the ones to come. First off IF nintendo played smart and maybe dumb like sony *Sony is basically giving away all of their exclusives , god knows why but they need money probably*, they would sell off the new ssb to other consoles; If and only if the new ssb does a good job of keeping it to a appealing level of teens and up , and by adding nice characters.
Apparently, you're the one who got it wrong. The Wii is or at least is trying too be an EVERYBODY croud console. Also, as I've stated before, Sakurai, the guy who basically made smash, NOT the Wii, wanted and made it a party game. That plus the Wii is advertised for everyone, you can't honestly say that all future new wii game will advertise only for teens. Besides they'd make more money if they appealed to everyone. What about that boomblox game or w/e where in the commercials only KIDS played it? Or Wii fitt, showing adults with teens, but that doesn't count since it's not a game right?
Brawl needs extensive array of cool characters that a older croud could relate to , in other words make the new ssb a non kiddy friendly game . The new ssb roster should look something like from a capcom vs snk vs namco vs nintendo vs sony vs WHAT EVER ( excluding alot of kiddy characters that would only hinder the game) kind of roster. Having everyone from everygame (only the ones cool enough to be mentioned in a really well thought out character list) would be a great idea.
Brawl already has an very extensive array of cool characters that a older (sometimes MUCH older) croud can relate too. It extremely disconcerting and sad that you can't appreciate the character choises.

dude. I can't get my head around how you go dismissing Mario as he is basically Nintendo. He is cool. In fact, in an interview, the maker of Mario Galaxy said to a musician dude that the rough draft music was cute, NOT cool. They're aiming for cool. Characters DO NOT (Although do play a big part in) make a game kiddy friendly. Actually kids suck at this game, even before I was competative I never found any child 11 or younger who could play this game well. How can the Brawl characters in any way hinder the game? Your incredible knowledge on this subject has left me dumbfounded. I must know why.
Well thought out is what the Brawl makers have already did.
Something like this . Characters from:
MEGAMAN series : X , Zero , Bass , battle network megaman, colonel and others.
Conker BFD : CONKER, the grim reaper and heck maybe even the ugabugas.
Sonic series : old school sonic , old school knuckles , metal sonic and shadow .
Fire emblem series : alot of people could be put in here but for now ill put in ;Ike ,Roy , Sothe and Miciah , Greil ,any others im missing that are non phail should be welcome( i admit FE series is not my forte)
CUSTOM ROBO : Ray 1
Zelda series : Teen link , Oni link , Majoras mask kid link , zelda( shes basically the star of the game so she has to be in it)
Golden sun ; basically all the main characters should be welcome here.
Gun star Heroes : Red and blue.
I have no quelms against who you want for SSB4.
these are just a few characters that could easily go into a new ssb since they mostly nintendo related ,BUT the creators could go even futher by adding the coolest of the cool characters from other games and systems . Street fighter characters? king of fighters ? Tekken?Soul calibur? Final fantasy series? Guilty Gear? Dark stalkers? Dragon ball ?Rival Schools?
Think time to create characters, ownership rights, memory space, making smash as a game not feel like smash, or making the characters not feel like themselves.
A street fighter character does not belong in smash, nor does a smash character belong in Street Fighter. Period.
something like this :
KOF ; Kyo , K' , K9999 , Kusanagi , Kula , shermie , mai, Malin , shen .
street fighter : ryu , ken , cammy , guile , sakura, chun li , akuma ,c viper,
Tekken ; Jin kazama , Devil jin , julia , steve , kazuya asuka , lin xiaoyu*sorry for spelling mistakes*
Rival schools ; Edge, hinata , batsu , akira hyo ,kyosuke and others
may i even say Devil may cry series .....
Once again, don't care about the characters.
The thing is that the possibilities are endless and taking in mind that there will be obstacles like , what about the move sets? the copy rights? this isnt really a nintendo game , what about the nintendo characters? the game will cost millions to make , what bout the music? how can these characters be even on the same roster , let alone the same game......... the this and that.Well, that is where a strong and free will comes in. Just take a second to think how a ssb would look in a more mature perspective and im sure you would like it. These are my 2 cents
Well, the thing is that they chose out of those endless possibilities the biggest and baddest roster yet. Oh wait you DID think about that. But that just shows this game did make loads of money to make, does have awesome music, does present itself in a professional fashion.
How dare you say that Smash isn't really a Nintendo game.
Games don't have to make too much logical sence, so complaining about how the characters can be in the same roster or game is stupid. Come on, that's the whole point of Smash!!!
anyone looking to pick a fight i dont care there is nothing to do right now , the frustration is killing me if you must flame remmember this isnt the post to do it, Good night to you all.
Wow, you were expecting it. I don't even get what your last sentence means. I'm not trying to pick a fight. But that was just wrong. So wrong.
Dissing many incredible popular characters. Calling Brawl a joke, immature. Implying that the makers of the game didn't consider everything that is good for the game and put their best into this game. Saying brawl isn't a Nintendo game, saying those characters shouldn't be in the same game together. Saying the Brawl characters hinder the game. Implying that a whole bunch more 3rd party characters would make smash better.
/rant
Well that was uncharacteristic of me...