[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!

[kid x]

I still feel that K. Rool should be in more than Dixie. Eh, Black Shadow should be a costume change, not a whole new character with the same moveset as Falcon. I agree with you on Ganondorf, he deserves his own moveset, him and Falcon aren't even from the same game.

 

[Ace Of Flames]

What about Captain Rainbow?

Lol, that would be an interesting moveset to see.

 

[Ace Of Flames]

The Never ending K. Rool vs Dixie Thread/end rant. I think the Blck Shadow should be a new character. Give Gannondorf the respect he deserves and de-clone him. Then give the similar Capt.Falcon moveset to Black Shadow. This would make sense. Since that it is almost his alter ego and trie to out do everything Falcon does.

Good idea.

 

[Ace Of Flames]

I still feel that K. Rool should be in more than Dixie.

Agreed. He played a more noticeable role in the games.

 

[Nick The Potato]

Plus...Dixie...kinda sucks...

*runs away and hides*

I mean she has no personality or originality at all (thats just going off looks and a small look at her game)...I don't see why she's so popular. Of course I wouldn't care if she got in SSB4...

As long as more...originaler charecters get it.

 

[kid x]

Yeah, was she in DK64? If not, she might not have much of a moveset. K. Rool would have plenty of moves.

 

[Kraryo]

Dixie wasn't in DK64, but an expy of her named Tiny was.

 

[kid x]

Oh, well Dixie really wouldn't have much of a B moveset then.

 

[SmashChu]

Plus...Dixie...kinda sucks...

*runs away and hides*

I mean she has no personality or originality at all (thats just going off looks and a small look at her game)...I don't see why she's so popular. Of course I wouldn't care if she got in SSB4...

As long as more...originaler charecters get it.

I wouldn't say that. You could say you think K. Rool has more personality. It's all a matter of perspective.

 

[MasterWarlord]

Dixie has 2 roles in which she displays any personality. K. Rool has countless ones.

K. Rool has far more dialougue then Dixie could ever hope to have.

K. Rool is indeed generic and cliche, but Dixie is so undefined we can't even tell if she's generic and cliche.

Spoiler

Even though it doesn't really matter whatsoever, on the DK cartoon (Which is vastly superior to the other mediocre cartoons despite being mediocre itself) Dixie is by far the least recurring of the recurring characters, having minor roles mostly, and K. Rool has a large role in every single episode.

 

[Nick The Potato]

Dixie has 2 roles in which she displays any personality. K. Rool has countless ones.

K. Rool has far more dialougue then Dixie could ever hope to have.

K. Rool is indeed generic and cliche, but Dixie is so undefined we can't even tell if she's generic and cliche.

Spoiler

Even though it doesn't really matter whatsoever, on the DK cartoon (Which is vastly superior to the other mediocre cartoons despite being mediocre itself) Dixie is by far the least recurring of the recurring characters, having minor roles mostly, and K. Rool has a large role in every single episode.

You are the smartest man on the face of these forums.

You get an A

 

[gantrain05]

why the hell are you people talking about personalities of video game APES? none of them have **** for a personality, this argument sucks.

 

[Nick The Potato]

Hmmmm...so you say that personality doesn't matter?

Personality goes in a lot for brawl. Take Wario for instance. He's kinda a wierd dude, so in turn, his attacks are a little odd, and his movement is a bit strange. A good Personality can really dictate a goid moveset. What if they added a say...regular goomba to the rooster (hypotheticly of course) Not much of anything to go on there huh...because a goomba's Generic with no personality. Now if it was Derek the hypesactive Boxing goomba with a loose tooth from Denver, theres someone with a bit of personality, and has a betrer potential for a better moveset.

 

[highandmightyjoe]

Dixie does glide though, so I'm sure I would hate her, and K. Rool is the superbeast. Honestly, he should have been in back in Melee, for them to have gone this long without him is just foolish.

 

[highandmightyjoe]

From what Nintendo showed at their Fall Press Conference, there are a lot of new franchises coming out. It may be Nintendo trying to make new, disruptive ideas.

One thing to remember is sales may not be the best determiner. The Donkey Kong franchise has been greatly under represented (even at it's peak)

Sorry for double post but I just saw this. Unless I'm reading this wrong you are trying to say that Donkey Kong sold poorly. Donkey Kong Country was the #2 selling SNES game in the U.S.

 

[Drizzt6195]

Need Bowser Jr.

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry for double post but I just saw this. Unless I'm reading this wrong you are trying to say that Donkey Kong sold poorly. Donkey Kong Country was the #2 selling SNES game in the U.S.

DKC came out nearly fifteen-years-ago... hell, DK64 came out nearly ten-years-ago. Since then, it has all been party games.

 

[Xihyon]

I'd like to see some hit stun,... just tiny bit more, you know not pushing my irish luck to its limits.
I'd love to see balanced situations, and tiers no longer applied but thats impossible, compeative people will rail you when your not looking, and throw that list some where.

I have been a fan of golden sun, and would love to see Issac, Felix , in there, even if they were bottom tier quality and control.

 

[trev94]

You think Megaman would get alternate costumes. If so I wonder which ones?

he is not going to be in the game soooo who cares

 

[Jimnymebob]

he is not going to be in the game soooo who cares

1. How are you so certain?

2. The thread is asking what people would like in SSB4, no matter how "far fetched" their ideas are.

3. I could argue that you want De Blob, an unimportant game that has a small fan base and was made by a group of University Students a few years back, whereas Megaman has an extremely large fan base and has been around since the 80's.

4. See 1.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Going to have to agree with jim. Although I hate Megaman. I have to admit he's very popular and is one of the most likely characters for SSB4 along with King K. Rool, Ridley, and Dixie Kong.

 

[trev94]

1. How are you so certain?

2. The thread is asking what people would like in SSB4, no matter how "far fetched" their ideas are.

3. I could argue that you want De Blob, an unimportant game that has a small fan base and was made by a group of University Students a few years back, whereas Megaman has an extremely large fan base and has been around since the 80's.

4. See 1.

they all ready put 2 3rd party charaters in the game. another one would look stupied, and it would start to get out of hand. the only way megaman will get in is if sanke of sonic get takin out. and thats not going to happen.

 

[KingK.Rool]

they all ready put 2 3rd party charaters in the game. another one would look stupied, and it would start to get out of hand. the only way megaman will get in is if sanke of sonic get takin out. and thats not going to happen.

That would be a huge waste of potential. Let's face it, they've opened the floodgates, they're not going to leave it at Snake and Sonic. New character universes are available, and it'd be stupid to ignore huge icons like Megaman in favour of insignificant little characters out of Nintendo franchises.

 

[Jimnymebob]

they all ready put 2 3rd party charaters in the game. another one would look stupied, and it would start to get out of hand. the only way megaman will get in is if sanke of sonic get takin out. and thats not going to happen.

How are you so certain that Megaman won't get in?
Do you have an inside source?

What would be wrong with 3 third party characters- if Sakurai likes the character, he has right to put it in, or not.

 

[trev94]

How are you so certain that Megaman won't get in?
Do you have an inside source?

What would be wrong with 3 third party characters- if Sakurai likes the character, he has right to put it in, or not.

i realy wouldnt mind him being in the game. I am just saying Sakurai is too big of an retart to even think of putting him in the game

 

[SmashChu]

I'd love to see balanced situations, and tiers no longer applied but thats impossible, compeative people will rail you when your not looking, and throw that list some where

Like you touched on, tier will always exist. The game could be perfectly balanced with no character being better then another, but a tier list will still come out. Not sure why the need to rank everything.

 

[BKupa666]

DKC came out nearly fifteen-years-ago... hell, DK64 came out nearly ten-years-ago. Since then, it has all been party games.

*cough*Kid Icarus *cough*

If a character is wanted, age, sales, or quantity of games are unimportant.

 

[Yoshi52]

Maybe someone should make a SSB4 where everything the fans want would get in so we could see how bad some of it would turn out...

More things I would like:

- Downloadable content that can get on the disc either by use of a Shopping Channel-like thing, or an SD card.

- Wolf should have his own victory fanfare song, like Wario and Meta Knight did in Brawl.


Actually, I'm fine with whatever gets put in SSB4. It'd just be nice if what I said would be in...

 

[BKupa666]

Maybe someone should make a SSB4 where everything the fans want would get in so we could see how bad some of it would turn out...

More things I would like:

- Downloadable content that can get on the disc either by use of a Shopping Channel-like thing, or an SD card.

- Wolf should have his own victory fanfare song, like Wario and Meta Knight did in Brawl.


Actually, I'm fine with whatever gets put in SSB4. It'd just be nice if what I said would be in...

Character specific victory themes should be the new thing, although I don't really see it happening, as stickers and the chronicle are apparently of higher priority.

 

[SmashBrosMike]

Okay what does the *cough* *cough*

Mean!!!

 

[Deleted member]

An individual winning theme for all characters is a smashing idea, Yoshi. I don't see it happening, but I would fall off my chair and have several heart attacks if it did. A stage a character would also be great.

 

[Black Hole CO]

how about not just victory themes, but individual victory screens, as in the score, and the line up (where you do the victory pose and the losers clap) would be in a place that is associated with whomever won the match: like for example, if Meta Knight won, it would happen on the battleship halberd, if Bowser won, it would happen in his castle, if pit won, it would happen in skyworld, etc

of course that would be a lot of memory space and time to put to such a minor thing, (and would be best spent elsewhere) but i think it would be awesome nonetheless

 

[BKupa666]

how about not just victory themes, but individual victory screens, as in the score, and the line up (where you do the victory pose and the losers clap) would be in a place that is associated with whomever won the match: like for example, if Meta Knight won, it would happen on the battleship halberd, if Bowser won, it would happen in his castle, if pit won, it would happen in skyworld, etc

of course that would be a lot of memory space and time to put to such a minor thing, (and would be best spent elsewhere) but i think it would be awesome nonetheless

Oh God, and instead of clapping, the losers could be attacked by the home stage hazards (like in Mario Party), for example, in Bowser's Castle, they could be burned by fireballs, on Skyworld, they could be chased by Centurions, and on Halberd, they could be attacked by the claw and cannon and whatnot. This would never happen, but would be epic.

 

[kid x]

Both of those ideas would be awesome! Hmm, I like the stage a character idea, there would be a plentiful amount of stages. Also, they should bring back all stages from Brawl, Melee, and Smash 64. There could be five sections, SSB4 stages, Brawl stages, Melee stages, Smash 64 stages, and custom stages.

I think there should be downloadable content from a shop or something, in-game of course. Instead of letting people automatically get a random stage, pic, and replay when they go online, they should be able to download a set amount each day.

That's all I can think of right now.

 

[PrepareYourself]

Tag teams.

Both Teams AND one-on-ones.

 

[Oddler]

Has it been confirmed that there will be a SSB4? Any rumors? Non-Confirmation of it not being made? Anything in the horizon that was revealed in the past about the future of SSB4?

 

[Linkshot]

There's a chance of no SSB4. It all depends on what Sakurai feels like at the time he's asked.

 

[MasterWarlord]

They'll get somebody else to do it if Sakurai says no. I don't care what the interview says. They'd never drop one of their single biggest cash cows.

 

[flyinfilipino]

It'll happen eventually as long as Nintendo's around. Nintendo will churn out more characters, and people will say "Hey, they'd be cool in Smash Bros." Thus, a new game will be necessary. Smash Bros. and Nintendo are like...one.

 

[Kraryo]

Maybe someone should make a SSB4 where everything the fans want would get in so we could see how bad some of it would turn out...

Before Brawl, people wanted a more in-depth story mode. It turns out that in-depth story mode (SSE) Sakurai put in was the biggest waste of time and effort. It also wasn't good.

I'm not saying that there can't be suggestions, just be careful what you suggest.

I said it before, but there should be a limit (let's say three) on how many times you can grab onto the edge without going back on the stage like they did with tethers. Not only that, but you have to be on the stage and not grab on the edge for ten seconds before your ledge grabbing abilities get restored.

If you grab onto the edge, get back onto the stage, and grab onto the ledge again without waiting ten seconds, it will treat it like you haven't gone back onto the stage and that you are on your second grab.

It it will discourage ledgecamping and that is good. If anybody doesn't understand, I'll try to word it better.