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[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

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>"Solid Snake's Hitbox And Frame Data - by Eternal Yoshi"

Here you go
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258332

 

[PEACE7]

Thank you sooo much man

 

[TwentyTwo]

I'm surprised you didn't mention simply standing up Twenty-Two.

Getting on stage with only 2 frames vulnerability is pretty good. Even over 100% which is only 4 frames vulnerability is still pretty good as well.

You forget a couple of things when you haven't played in months haha.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

You forget a couple of things when you haven't played in months haha.

I forget a lot of things when I do that autopilot thing. Outside of a match, it's easy to see that Falco has quite a lot of options getting off the ledge. ledge hop -> airdodge, double lasers, reflector, aerial, side B; stand-up, attack, roll, jump, Yet, whenever I am in a match, I only ever use a fraction of those options.

Good thing Snake sucks so much on the ledge to only need to mix-up 2-4 things.

 

[MVD]

Guys snake just sucks don't waste your time its sad

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Explosions are what make him the best character.

 

[MVD]

Your funny

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

You know that I meant him to be the most fun character when it was said he was the best character.

So what do you all think of Snake's Dtilt and hurtbox?

Spoiler

Seriously, do you like using Dtilt at all over Utilt?

 

[MVD]

Oh he is fun no doubt lol and I like d tilt more than u tilt sometimes, more range and randomly good

 

[Ralph Cecil]

What does Snake GR Squirtle into? o-o

 

[wendell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yo32E9MLRYw#t=352s
how did razer explode the c4 under the stage without dying like this?it`s timing or luck?if it`s timing,it`s hard

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Possibly a B-Stick? Or just good timing I guess.

 

[Mike2]

What does Snake GR Squirtle into? o-o

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236239

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236239

Hmm... It might randomly be worth knowing the kill percents with Dash Attack for those characters.

 

[F A N G]

Any advice for landing kill moves? I'm awful at it, I can count on one hand how many Utilt kills I've gotten in the past two days.

 

[Gifts]

Any advice for landing kill moves? I'm awful at it, I can count on one hand how many Utilt kills I've gotten in the past two days.

Full hop dair is the answer.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Just work people into various situations. A grab to dthrow set-ups for an Utilt attempt. People having to land is another such position. Either by using Utilt against there aerial landing or simply jab -> utilt when in the air are other good set-ups.

Jab -> ftilt gets roughly -1 to +1 frame advantage. If you can get the move to become fresh, then Ftilt2 is a good finisher at slightly above higher percents than Utilt KOs at. Other times you just have to be tricky about getting the KO such as avoid an opponents attack somehow (roll, dodge, walk, run), then retaliate with Utilt.

There is not really a whole lot you can do if situations never present themselves. You have to make sure you can capitalize on situations where you can get KOs with moves if you use the right one.

 

[Attila_]

The better I get, the more I notice myself killing with bair, nades, and uair.

Utilt is generally too obvious, and can be baited and punished. Gotta be a little less conventional.

 

[F A N G]

Thanks, I'll work on some of that.

Sonic is sooo hard to hit

 

[Gifts]

Thanks, I'll work on some of that.

Sonic is sooo hard to hit

j ab

 

[F A N G]

Sonic is so hard to kill*

 

[Attila_]

jab to ftilt.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Can you powershield Sonic's Jab3? I swear you can powershield it like squirtle, snake, olimar, zss, etc.

 

[XEELT]

Anyone have any tips to playing D3's? I've never played the match up yet, and I know I'll be playing it this friday.

 

[mikeray4]

Anyone have any tips to playing D3's? I've never played the match up yet, and I know I'll be playing it this friday.

throw gernades,grab him when he lands, dthrow,punish with ftilt

 

[Attila_]

Don't try to punish the spotdodge!

It doesn't work...

 

[False]

You can punish spot dodge. I punish D3 spot dodge all the time. However, I usually have to do it after their first one. Once they start spamming it I lose rhythmic focus.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

Do dair not work? o-o

 

[Mike2]

^ I think you just have to get lucky and one of the hits has to hit during the I think 2(?) frames he's vulnerable. I've down aired a DDD and he just spotdodge to spotdodged through the whole thing. -_-

 

[mikeray4]

I meant punish him when he gets up from the dthrow....IDIOTS

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Whether Shmot's statement was in direct response to your "punish with ftilt" is questionable.

The match-up against DDD is avoid being grabbed. You avoid damage and being killed.

 

[B.A.M.]

hey snakes a quick question. when you buffer jab out of dthrow vs MK and he get up attacks, is power shielding it legit? I was talking DSF about it the other day and he said he saw Ally do it awhile back. And the brief testing i did made it seem to work. Im sure you all have done more testing that Ive ever done in regards to dthrow so I wanted to hear all your input. Also it seemed when u dthrow buffer jab Marth if he buffer frolls he gets hit. Just wanted to know if this stuff was legit and if it is written anywhere. I dont see it in the dthrow thread from my boy Susa so.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I don't know about the MK thing, but if the Marth buffers a forward roll you can even f-tilt him out of it I believe.

 

[B.A.M.]

I feel jab is better in that scenario because you get your ftilt +jab damage, as well as the capacity to block a get up attack or shield grab a get up. Plus if they just stay there u could potentially dair them to oblivion.

I would really like some insight on this dthrow buffer jab business on MK tho.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

I think that trying to jab cancel to f-tilt gives Marth enough time to up-b out of it, or at least I remember someone mentioning that before on here.

 

[Attila_]

You can punish spot dodge. I punish D3 spot dodge all the time. However, I usually have to do it after their first one. Once they start spamming it I lose rhythmic focus.

zomg its false!

i thought you deserted us...

 

[MVD]

You can totally hold out jab on spot dodge or what I do is drop a nade in front and roll behind

 

[False]

I have transcended. I am going to **** all of you at Apex.

 

[Ralph Cecil]

o-o Can we full hop dair over anyone's get up attack out of a d-throw without getting hit?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I would expect there is probably someone that would work on. But, would it really be worth using a Dthrow opportunity with that sort of hard read?