Official E for All Firsthand Impressions DISCUSSION Thread

[kilroy]

For me, the removal of L-cancelling is more worrying because characters may lose their potential to string together great combos and to pressure shields. The Aerial Game and Ground Game seem to be taking heavy hits from the changes.

but isn't this only an issue if the lag remains the same for landing aerials? other reports suggest that lag has been reduced across the board, sorta negating the need for L-canceling, right?

unless i'm misunderstanding something.

*edit* infil beat me to it.

 

[Anth0ny]

I think when people say L-Canceling is removed, they mean that ALL moves are L-canceled automatically, in a sense. They've highly decreased the lag at the end of everyone's moves by default, so there's "no need" for L-canceling in the traditional sense.

That's my interpretation anyway.

Well that would be convinient! Hopefully it's true!

 

[Dynamism]

I think when people say L-Canceling is removed, they mean that ALL moves are L-canceled automatically, in a sense. They've highly decreased the lag at the end of everyone's moves by default, so there's "no need" for L-canceling in the traditional sense.

That's my interpretation anyway.

And that's what I was hoping for

 

[King Axel]

If someone could tell me straight up -- so I've heard the game is slower, a lot of things have been nerfed. Is it worse than Melee?

 

[Byron X]

This is some interesting stuff!

 

[Chepe]

How do we know whether or not Brawl is worse than Melee in the competitive sense? We havent fully played it yet, discovered all its secrets, etc.

People want to jump to conclusions WAYYYY too fast.

 

[Keku]

Well yeah, but even if the lag is smaller, I'd still be happy if there was a way for dedicated players to reduce it even more, thus making more combos available.. Now everyone is on the same line in that respect.

 

[Rarzy]

well that's the worst news i've heard so far- wolf is a costume, which would mean he's not his own character. dear god why?

 

[Heavyarms2050]

remember, i dont remember who exactly, said that you alot of customizable option when setting up matches, i pretty sure there an option that would allow to adjust game speed

 

[flyinfilipino]

well that's the worst news i've heard so far- wolf is a costume, which would mean he's not his own character. dear god why?

Eh, not necessarily true, Mario has a Wario costume.

 

[Somebody]

Noob friendliness.... not cool.

Wonder if you can still wall-tech...

 

[sdhonda]

Being better or worse than melee is rather subjective and ultimaly comes down to opinion.

 

[kilroy]

Eh, not necessarily true, Mario has a Wario costume.

while Wario, oddly enough, doesn't.

 

[Chepe]

Mario's had that Wario costume since the N64 game I believe...

 

[Dynamism]

while Wario, oddly enough, doesn't.

very mice

seriously though, GOOD VIDEOS ****IT!!! jk
where's this Bowser Top Tier "proof" *crosses arms in disapointement of the filmers*

 

[burrito]

Doesn't Mario have a Luigi costume?

 

[mezbomber]

it's almost as if they've made a new game!? </sarcasm>

my impression of these impressions leads me to the hypothesis that brawling will not be about quick pwning, but epic battles. There's the nerfing of broken characters, the nerfing of KO moves i.e.Samus Charge, the opportunity for a new aerial metagame, as well as a different edgeguard game. This game will kick ***, and absolutely be able to co-exist with melee. Along with these new gameplay ideas, there are characters who may not make the transition to Brawl. All the more reason to seriously enjoy and appreciate two kinds of kick *** smashing action. I'm so pumped for Brawl, and psyched that, at the same time, I don't think it will replace Melee.

 

[lookatthatbaconsizzle]

Doesn't Mario have a Luigi costume?

I dont think so

 

[takieddine]

**** nintendo/HAL for being a bunch of noobs.

 

[tirkaro]

all the alt costumes sound cool. especially for samus. fusion suit and dark samus? hot dog!

hehe. bowser being top-tier. I wonder if he was actually buffed up, or thats just gimpy being gimpy.

 

[blueriku]

yea their is you a see it in one of the ign vids

 

[Rarzy]

Eh, not necessarily true, Mario has a Wario costume.

i can only hope.. i have a bad feeling about it though..

 

[Zink]

everyone stop whining about noobification when we know NOTHING about how the game plays, jeez.

 

[ishizzle]

I dont think so

Mario does have a luigi costume in Brawl.

 

[yoshi_fan]

Wait... i think i saw what i did actually saw.

YOSHIS EGG MOVE STOP YOSHIS IN THE AIR; AND EVEN MAKE IT GO A LITTLE UP.

THIS IS FANTASTIC!

so you can now spam eggs from the ledge lol

Got it from the new video of E4all

 

[Somebody]

He has a costume with a green shirt and brown overalls. He had that in melee too.

 

[whiterob]

Eww, I'm not liking the sound of this at all. I guess the mario fireball costume and the metaknight red eyed costume isn't too bad though.

 

[bluekitsune13]

I'm a fan of the dark Metaknight costume because it came from Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, if I'm not mistaken. There was a "Dark Metaknight" or something in that game IIRC. Plus he just looks badass.

 

[Cyntalan Maelstrom]

I remembered a question I had not regarding gameplay that I was curious about. The music. Is it fully orchestrated, or is it as low-quality as the demo audio clips that are on the Dojo?

 

[Chepe]

Mario does have a luigi costume in Brawl.

Last I checked, Luigi doesnt wear Green and Red...

 

[Rash]

Of course MetaKnight would get great treatment with the costumes. He, like Kirby, is Sakurai's character. When people said that MK was god-tier (which has now been disproven) I really wasn't surprised.

Now if only Kirby could get the respect he deserves from his own ****ing creator.

 

[bluekitsune13]

Has there been any picture of the alt. costumes of Fox (Wolf) or Samus (Dark Samus/Fushion/Phazon/whatever)?

 

[NES n00b]

Dash dancing? In or out?

 

[Crispy4001]

They didn't remove shield grabbing, did they?

 

[GreenKirby]

To the guy who said that an alt costume for Diddy was Dixie's clothing, we're you for real? O_o

 

[bluekitsune13]

I hope somebody plays the Bridge of Eldin for Flying Spaghetti Monster's sake.

 

[Adi]

No word on it yet I think, I'm surpirsed they tested WD and not this, the suspense is killing me.

 

[Dynamism]

I hope somebody plays the Bridge of Eldin for Flying Spaghetti Monster's sake.

QF****ingT!!!

 

[NES n00b]

No word on it yet I think, I'm surpirsed they tested WD and not this, the suspense is killing me.

If dash dancing is out, this game is pretty much unsalvageable as a competative game. I hate to be a downer and stuff, but spacing techs and tatics would all be removed if dash dancing is removed. . . . .

 

[M.K]

How has MK's god tier position been disproven? Just curious.