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No. Bowser is in low/bottom same with Sonic. And Sonic sucks.Is the general consensus that Bowser is relatively high up in mid, and that Sonic doesn't suck? Just wondering who I have to troll next =3
The key to trolling is to troll with the truth
DK is good b/c he's the only char, who's good against Snake and MK at the same time. Heavy, powerful, decent rane, **** tilts, ...
It wouldn't matter if a character didn't win a lot if they didn't try a lot too. I think the reason why Sonic does bad on tiers because I think a lot of people play him (He's Sonic >_>) but no one places with him. If Snake makes top 8 90/100 times and Sonic does it 11/100, then it's obvious that Sonic is significantly worse than him (Example, not real numbers). So even if he's an OK character, his failure rate should be considered.
most likely how he can kill top tiers is my guess.
*facepalm*
1. He racks up damage quite quickly.
Of course not but its a heck of alot more accurate than what people used to think.
Well, it makes sense that he has more priority than previously thought, since I can actually use him and not get ****stomped. My friend was so annoyed the other day, cuz he was DK, and I kept getting a quick attack off on his shield, spot dodging his attacks (all of them, including, like, ftilt) and then grabbing him =3 he was so pissed....I think he still won, but it was hilarious to behold, and a good match.
Aww, come on, man. Statements like that have been proven wrong so many times. Look at the tourney results. If the top 10 contains 8 times Snake, any idiot can tell that this game isn't balanced and that tiers do exist no matter how much skill does matter
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About sonic's placing yes my mistake I keep thinking his 3 tournament wins and what not are still on the chart, my mistake.
The main reason I don't think its accurate is due to B rank and down. Things appeared to be a bit muddled and while some characters have been expected to do somewhat in the middle we see characters whom we know to be better falling below.
C rank seems kinda acurate aswell >_>
Wrong, Bowser is mid-tier. He is strong.
You are half right.
If you're basing it off of that matchup chart, then I'd disagree. He can at least get low% kills, making him playable. Pika/TL could get bumped up a little, but I can't think of anyone who'd need to be bumped down for that to happen.
Except no. Snake's boost smash has such terrible priority. I don't know why people even consider this as a viable option to approach against projectile camping. You're going to ALWAYS lose or clank with that projectile. And most projectiles are able to be spammed more than his boost smash. In that sense, it's just easier to powershield your way through. Also Lucario's auraspheres gain an insane amount of priority larger they are. I can't give you statistics, but I'm sure a fully charged 0% sphere will outprioritize the boost smash. Making it a stupid option to simply spam back and forth.
I do like this list. I personally feel like Olimar, Zelda, and ICs could move down a bit in the list, and Luigi move up. I wouldn't know how to exactly rearrange it, though.
Or something like that.
Upper-mid, mid, and lower-mid are the same tier (middle). I separated them to make it easier to read. It's basically 5 tiers if you're looking at tournament viability.
Not bad at all, and considering you've probably had plently of tournament experiance I can see where your coming from on certain characters. The only thing I'd question is maybe renaming, but that's completely up to you.
true and i havent played too many great toon links to prove him at high tier, however i included him high tier because i played one toon link that was extremely good. with his incredible camping game and this kids play style i see toon link high tier, its just i havent seen anyone play him the way this kid did and thats why he hasnt had much tournament success and recognition. down the line i can see more and more toon links playing like this and showing up in the finals of tourneys. i also looked in the toon link boards and on youtube and havent seen any other toon links play like this kid and thats why i think people arent giving toon link credit because no one is playing him the way hes supposed to be played. this kid hasnt been to any tourneys, hes been training on his own. hes probably going to make an appearance soon so well see how he fairs outside of his group of friends.
Probably the best list I have seen to date.
