Uhhh, you SHOULD be using results to help gauge a char's position on the tier list. The fact that Ganon has won (the
most) money suggests he has the
best results. The fact that he's won
money at all already means he has better results than a lot of other Low Tiers. Tesh, yes, we both just agreed that Ganon has much better players than pretty much all the other Low Tiers, but that doesn't mean Ganon shouldn't rise because of it, not even in the
slightest. Skill should NOT be used to 'modify' any objective data (results, official MU spreads, etc.) because measures of skill are entirely
subjective. If you're going to use the skill argument, you might as well agree that MK isn't the best char because all the best brawl players use him, so the skill disparity between him and other chars' users means his results aren't so dominating.
Why do you think Falcon rose from last place? Because he started garnering results after
good players started using him.
If a top player wins a tourney with Ganon, but no top player bothers to pick up Zelda or Link, you can't hold it against Ganon. You should objectively raise Ganon in your book and then beg the community to spread their 'low tier usage' so that we have more chars' metagames developed. This is the problem with this community. It puts worth into things like 'skill' to discredit a char's achievements so that its preconceived views can remain untouchable. You don't see other FGCs doing that to their respective tier lists. It doesn't matter that Chris G or Infiltration are probably way better than most of the player pool at their respective games. Their successes still mean something. Also, Tesh, yes, it was proven that "great players can win a tournament with either character" but who's won
more good placings.
Verm JUST posted here stating how he got 5th place at a recent tourney. Where are the Zeldas and Links and Puffs doing that kind of work? Results SHOULD factor into a char's tier list placement. Ganon has them. He's had them for a couple years now (similar to ZSS). Why is he still last? And why are people trying to tell me that his results don't matter as much as other chars' do?
