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Official BBR Tier List v7

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Uncle

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Awesome. Hit me up tomorrow evening then, because I'll be up for some battling on showdown at that time.

For once I'm with gheb on that. Having different terminology for physically and specially oriented tanks/walls/sponges/whatevers is kinda silly.
The term of "tank" seems to be a catch-all for any character with strong defenses in most games. Some people think a character has to have firepower along with defense in order to be called a tank, but I'm not that picky.
 

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So on our way back from michigan, MeekSpeedy had a run-in with border patrol - a run-in that consisted of accusations of possession of firearms or narcotics. Yikes.

For the full story, head on over to post #9218 in this thread.
 

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Oh, what's this? Did you come looking for the exciting re-telling of MeekSpeedy's run-in with border patrol? You may need to head over to post #9986 for that.
I hate you.

:phone:

So you've reached the end of your journey and are sitting on the edge of your seat wondering what happened to MeekSpeedy at the Detroit/Windsor border. Well let me tell you, it's not every day that well-traveled canadians like ourselves are subject to sniff dogs (as I understand it, it's random). After yours truly was called out and told to put her phone away, sparing you guys from an onslaught of my long-overdue useless posts, the dog was brought out, and to our surprise, it outed MeekSpeedy as a suspicious fellow! He was brought aside where the officer said, within earshot of all the Greyhound passengers, that the dog only detects narcotics and firearms. Oh no! MeekSpeedy waht r u doin

So while our blue hedgehog friend was being questioned, pat down, and having his belongings searched, the rest of us skipped on our merry way through customs, including myself, who had come back from the same tournament. I re-boarded the bus and sat there in anticipation, wondering what atrocities were being committed against our Yoshi's Island-loving pal.

After a long and tense wait, wondering if I should have stayed behind to vouch for our Sega superstar if needed, Meekspeedy re-boarded the bus. And then this happened:
 

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are you kidding me

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A wall is someone who can sponge hits all day, but doesn't pose much threat in return. A tank is something like old gen snorlax, who can sponge hits but deal damage in return.

The only reason why I pointed it out is because you were claiming to be an authority and were calling others wannabes.

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Aw man, here comes Grim Tuesday spoiling all my hard work :c
 

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You guys are dumb. I've been a top 10 online player in my country for ~2 years in 386 [2006-2008; until Brawl came out, basically]. I understand the metagame WAY better than wanna-be know-it-alls like DMG or Surpreme Dirt. You could've definitely legalized Mewtwo in 386 and it would've worked. People are just whiny scrubs and want to ban everything that doesn't get tanked by their Skarm-Bliss-Suicune combo and the other half are whiny scrubs who want to ban even that. Mewtwo doesn't have a single moveset in 386 that can't be countered but it's OK. I let you people pretend that you know your stuff about a game you clearly don't know anything about.

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Ok Gheb. Since you wanna whip out the E-Peen. What Pokemon in OU would fare well against Mewtwo in 386? He speed ties with Jolteon and Aerodactyl, and would lose the speed war to what Electrode and Deoxy's forms? There is no Choice Scarf, pursuit trapping is much weaker before the Physical/Special split, etc If Mewtwo was made legal for OU, please explain how every team would not pick him or how he would not dominate UNLESS you also planned on bringing other Ubers down as well. Which would be even less fair if you legalized the faster Deoxys forms just to kill Mewtwo or if you brought down a comparable Calm Mind Sweeper/other Ubers.


There is no fair way to legalize him in that Gen or for probably any Gen for that matter. But please, explain a team or a set of Pokemon designed to counter Mewtwo, in OU, that would prove wrong the idea that everyone would use Mewtwo or that the metagame would entirely shift towards playing/countering him. Since apparently I've never played competitive Pokemon please by all means throw down the analysis! The EV spreads movesets damage calculations all of it. Like you said, if you can't rely on Skarmory Blissey Suicune to beat him, who do you turn to then? Pray he doesn't have a fire move and use Metagross, after you sac a Pokemon?


Since you were the top 10 "badass", go on. And I hope it's not just covering 2-3 different Mewtwo sets, would be a shame if you left out OU counters to the Bulk Up set or the differences between running Taunt and a coverage move. I'd love to go into all of this, but I've never even heard of Pokemon so you're gonna have to explain type MU's, moves, and even pokemon names. I'm so clueless bro.
 

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Ok Gheb. Since you wanna whip out the E-Peen. What Pokemon in OU would fare well against Mewtwo in 386? He speed ties with Jolteon and Aerodactyl, and would lose the speed war to what Electrode and Deoxy's forms? There is no Choice Scarf, pursuit trapping is much weaker before the Physical/Special split, etc If Mewtwo was made legal for OU, please explain how every team would not pick him or how he would not dominate UNLESS you also planned on bringing other Ubers down as well. Which would be even less fair if you legalized the faster Deoxys forms just to kill Mewtwo or if you brought down a comparable Calm Mind Sweeper/other Ubers.


There is no fair way to legalize him in that Gen or for probably any Gen for that matter. But please, explain a team or a set of Pokemon designed to counter Mewtwo, in OU, that would prove wrong the idea that everyone would use Mewtwo or that the metagame would entirely shift towards playing/countering him. Since apparently I've never played competitive Pokemon please by all means throw down the analysis! The EV spreads movesets damage calculations all of it. Like you said, if you can't rely on Skarmory Blissey Suicune to beat him. who do you turn to then? Pray he doesn't have a fire move and use Metagross, after you sac a Pokemon?


Since you were the top 10 "badass", go on. And I hope it's not just covering 2-3 different Mewtwo sets, would be a shame if you left out OU counters to the Bulk Up set or the differences between running Taunt and a coverage move. I'd love to go into all of this, but I've never even heard of Pokemon so you're gonna have to explain type MU's, moves, and even pokemon names. I'm so clueless bro.
Leech Life Parasect got dis.

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I'm not teaching Donkeys about politics. Why do you ask me all of a sudden? I thought you've already figured out everything.

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My stories are S-tier.

guess what the S stands for
 

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I just don't understand how people can justify MK being legal from a competitive standpoint.

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Those justifications were hammered out extensively by the end of 3 years and the argument isnt worth renewing here. The premises for all sides in this case were very shaky and/or subjective which is part of the reason the community is so split and also why any correct answer will tend to depend on what people want from smash instead of whats 'right'.
If i learned anything from this discussion its that i made the right choice and to stick to my guns regarding the events that I run

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If you mean you made the right choice for the fact that you did what you wanted to do, then I completely agree.

Aw man, here comes Grim Tuesday spoiling all my hard work :c
If it makes you feel better, i wouldnt have seen it otherwise. That was awesome.

Also pokemon. Everyone should admire my Christmas Eevee
 

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I'm not teaching Donkeys about politics. Why do you ask me all of a sudden? I thought you've already figured out everything.

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TOP 10 BRO

I'm a lowly peasant in your presence. Enlighten me. I've put more work into this conversation than you have, you want me to also add 3 pages of analysis and then get it shut down by you with the reason being "You're wrong I was top 10 banning stuff is scrubby"? Yeah no thanks, I'd rather you THE MASTER go in depth and then we have a conversation at that point since I'll know you're putting in the effort.
 

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:drflip:

Wait that's a new Pokemon, Gheb might not know it with all the time he put into RSE. Shoulda made it Arcanine
 

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Go die in a pit
nice try
 

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Please stop making this into another ****ty social thread.
 

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I'm still waiting on Gheb's response to DMG. The gauntlet was thrown, and Gheb has no idea what a gauntlet is. :applejack:
 
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