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Official BBR Tier List v5

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ACTUALLY Gheb isn't one of them. Lol


EDIT: But enough of this, keep going with the topic at hand. The derailing of thread will come if the argument comes, again.
Also, it might be because not all of them that say this are wolf mains.
 

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So back to my sonic theory anyone else think the same? Also what is come of DDD if he stays stagnant, or is he bringing in results and I just haven't seen them?
 

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How dare you insert such a insubordinate, worthless character in our lair!

As long as Wolf gets put in a spot that reflects his character and how he's doing in tournaments (which seems about right in Illmatic's list, although Kirby and ROB's decline is a bit alarming), there shouldn't be anything to really complain about. I don't think Fox is overrated and deserves to be above Wolf this list, but it'll be interesting to hear what they have to say.
 

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I raised Wolf ****ing 5 spots LOOOL, why would they NOT be happy? That's practically all they talk about.
If they had it their way wolf would be up in A tier.

Same with sonic mains, except espy because he's reasonable.
 

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I'm mad he didn't say, "YOU MUST DIE!!!"

Lol, why does everyone want see the Fox vs. Wolf thing go down again for the 100th time yo lol
 

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John Numbers' Slightly Less ******** but Still WIP Tier List

Top Tier
S: :metaknight:

High Tier
A: :snake: :diddy: :falco:
B: :popo: :olimar:
C: :marth: :warioc: :pikachu2:
D: :dedede: (:zerosuitsamus:/:lucario:/:gw:)

Mid Tier
E: :toonlink: :pit: :fox: :rob: :dk2: (:wolf:/:peach:) :kirby2:
F: :luigi2: :sonic: :ike: :sheilda:
G: :sheik: :ness2: :pt: :yoshi2:

Low Tier
H: :lucas: :mario2: :bowser2:
I: :link2: (:samus2:/:zelda:)

Bottom Tier
J: (:falcon:/:jigglypuff:) :ganondorf:

I took a much more statistical approach to this regrouping. It's still a work in progress, but I feel this is a lot closer to what the actual tier list should look like.

There are still a few slots I'm undecided on, as you can see, but I'll fix that in my Final Draft.
 

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As you can see, there are some spots on my current list where there are two or more characters tied. I intend to break the ties, as well as fix any hiccups there might be in the list, by delving even further into my data and information.
 

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Bandwagons are fun.

Top
S: :metaknight:
A: :diddy: :snake: :falco: :popo: :olimar:

High
B: :wario: :marth: :pikachu2: :lucario: :dedede: :gw: :toonlink:

Middle
C: :fox: :zerosuitsamus: :wolf: :peach: :kirby2: :pit: :rob: :dk2: :sonic:
D: :ike: :luigi2: :sheilda: :yoshi2: :ness2: :sheik: :pt:

Low
E: :lucas: :mario2: :bowser2: :samus2:
F: :link2: :jigglypuff: :zelda: :falcon:

Da Bess
G: :ganondorf:

Opinions are fun too.
 

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Toon Link as well as Fox deal a much higher threat to High Tiers when compared to ZSS.




Although my least my seem very result dependent, I also took into consideration various other factors - (take a look at the Ice Climber's jump).
The only high tier character tl beats is ics.


All the others are either disadvantage or even. Zss even beats tl and she would looks like she does better against the mid tiers than tl does.
 

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John Numbers' Slightly Less ******** but Still WIP Tier List

Top Tier
S: :metaknight:

High Tier
A: :snake: :diddy: :falco:
B: :popo: :olimar:
C: :marth: :warioc: :pikachu2:
D: :dedede: (:zerosuitsamus:/:lucario:/:gw:)

Mid Tier
E: :toonlink: :pit: :fox: :rob: :dk2: (:wolf:/:peach:) :kirby2:
F: :luigi2: :sonic: :ike: :sheilda:
G: :sheik: :ness2: :pt: :yoshi2:

Low Tier
H: :lucas: :mario2: :bowser2:
I: :link2: (:samus2:/:zelda:)

Bottom Tier
J: (:falcon:/:jigglypuff:) :ganondorf:

I took a much more statistical approach to this regrouping. It's still a work in progress, but I feel this is a lot closer to what the actual tier list should look like.

There are still a few slots I'm undecided on, as you can see, but I'll fix that in my Final Draft.
why pit so high?
 

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Bandwagons are fun.

Top
S: :metaknight:
A: :diddy: :snake: :falco: :popo: :olimar:

High
B: :wario: :marth: :pikachu2: :lucario: :dedede: :gw: :toonlink:

Middle
C: :fox: :zerosuitsamus: :wolf: :peach: :kirby2: :pit: :rob: :dk2: :sonic:
D: :ike: :luigi2: :sheilda: :yoshi2: :ness2: :sheik: :pt:

Low
E: :lucas: :mario2: :bowser2: :samus2:
F: :link2: :jigglypuff: :zelda: :falcon:

Da Bess
G: :ganondorf:

Opinions are fun too.
Marth is slightly better than D3, worse than Lucario.

PT is low tier
Falcon is better than samus, link, puff and zelda

toon link is better than gnw
sonic should be above kirby

ness is bottom of mid tier at best
 

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Whooooooooooooa hold on slick! Did you just say Marth is worse than Lucario? and then say he was slightly better than DDD? You need to do your homework son, because you must not grasp character fundamentals.
 

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Whooooooooooooa hold on slick! Did you just say Marth is worse than Lucario? and then say he was slightly better than DDD? You need to do your homework son, because you must not grasp character fundamentals.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you go watch a video of a Lucario, then a video of a DDD, then a video of a Marth and tell me what you see? Lucarios are putting in serious work and Marth isn't doing anything in the US. Sure he has range, but he is a very 1 dimensional character with an average recovery. Hell the best Marth in the world went even with some random Bowser I've never heard of.

Meanwhile a DDD nearly beat M2K.
 

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And PSI kids users have also done well against top MKs (Seibrik, M2k). Maybe we should put them in B-tier, too?
 

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Oh Lucario needs to get his *** beat for his moves to actually make a kick. Marth's are always there. -__-
DDD? Where are his results? Also I guess any character that almost beat M2K needs to be above Marth am I right? LOL Marth for Ganon Tier :awesome:

Yeah dog learn character fundamentals.
 

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Oh Lucario needs to get his *** beat for his moves to actually make a kick. Marth's are always there. -__-
DDD? Where are his results? Also I guess any character that almost beat M2K needs to be above Marth am I right? LOL Marth for Ganon Tier :awesome:

Yeah dog learn character fundamentals.
dog, learn character fundamentals, marth might start stronger, but when it comes down to it he doesnt have the raw power lucario can have, also factor in margin of error, withotu tipper, marth might as well be a 0 percent lucario, lucario over 100% is like a marth tippering everything, cept he doesnt have to space perfectly for stuff to hurt.

learn characters brodawg
 

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You can't be serious? Meanwhile Marth is bringing more money that DDD :awesome:

Lucario's raw power that kicks in around kill precent? That's some backwards thinking there lool. Also there is frame data to take into account who is better frame wise? Who is better MU wise? And futhermore....
just read Kadaj's post. Ok Kadaj lol.

Aiyyo when are you coming back to GA so we can play some more I've taken your advice and I've ran with it pretty well.
 

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Tell your NC people to come to Bulldog brawl! also I can't see your sig homie.

I'm most likely be able to...live edit ninja'd.
 

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Since Everyone is doing it!

Here's a slightly edited one that I made around two weeks ago.
S::metaknight: (+0)
A: :diddy:(+1) :snake:(-1) :falco: (+0) :olimar:(+3) :warioc:(-1) :marth:(-1) :popo:(-1)
B: :pikachu2:(+0) :dedede:(+0) :lucario:(+1) :zerosuitsamus:(+1) :gw:(-2) :toonlink:(+0)
C: :fox:(+1) :rob:(+1) :peach:(+2) :kirby2:(-3) :pit:(-1) :sonic:(+3) :wolf:(+3) :dk2:(-1)
D: :ike:(+2) :luigi2:(-3) :yoshi2:(+3) :sheilda:(-1) :sheik:(+0) :ness2:(+0)
E: :pt:(-1) :lucas:(+0) :mario2:(+0) :bowser2:(+0) :samus2:(+1)
F: :falcon:(-1) :jigglypuff:(+0) :link2:(+0) :zelda:(+0)
Ganon: :ganondorf:(+0)

Go for it, And rage to your hearts content.
 

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Marth only has more money than Lucario because Ally is a beast. You speak nonsense dawg.
 

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Olimars Results have been nothing but astounding for I believe a few months now.
Look at KTAR 5 for example, Logic and Dabuz got 5th and 9th out of 116 players.
 
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