Official BBR Tier List v5

[Nestec]

with this new discovery, olimar should drop 5 spots, and ICS should drop 5 as well ;_;

lol, from where are you pulling this "5"?

Tier list

Bro, this almost looks like an '08 tier list.

:green:

 

[Dabuz]

lol, from where are you pulling this "5"?

Arbitary number for discussion, but, considering ICS metagame revolves around chaingrabbing and olimar's metagame is heavily reliant on low % grab combos, this will really drop them, more so than any other characters

 

[Meru.]

Does this work in Melee as well?

Let's make Sheik drop yaaaay

 

[Nidtendofreak]

You can't change your controls like that in Melee. >_>

Unless you can. I haven't played Melee in years. Too boring. But I don't think you can change anything in Melee.

 

[Meru.]

You can't change your controls like that in Melee. >_>

Unless you can. I haven't played Melee in years. Too boring. But I don't think you can change anything in Melee.

Oh yes you're right, I forgot.

Heh, would have been fun.

 

[dean.]

Doesn't this mean characters that Dedede relies on pummeling to infinite are now safe?
Mario, Luigi, Samus... as well as the new buffered pivot grab on Snake. And I might be wrong, but does the Wolf ledge infinite require pummeling?

 

[BigLord]

Would that chaingrabbing-break method work against Falco's chaingrab?

Not really sure right now...

 

[Conviction]

Wait breaking free from Falco's grab really easy? Oh well that's MU that got easier.

 

[dean.]

It wouldn't work against Falco becuase they throw as soon as they grab, so there's no time to break out.

 

[BigLord]

Yeah, just as I thought. Ah well, it can't hurt to dream

Still, this just made the MU against Olimar a lot easier.

 

[Spelt]

it would be wise to throw as soon as you grab with other chain grabbing characters as well.
not just falco

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Is it not just as quick and easier to rotate the Control Stick and mash A/R/both?

Only gripe with this is having to remember to change hand position on the controller but otherwise this looks like pretty strong stuff. I'll be interested to see how IC's and Olimar's fare after this

 

[Tagxy]

Pummel cgs will only work at high %s. So some of the infinites might not work.

 

[Conviction]

Damn, so it won't work on Falco.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

This won't do anything for characters who don't pummel in their chaingrabs/buffer them straight away (e.g. Falco, Pikachu)

It'll probably slightly mess up the chaingrabs of character's who have to get the damage from pummeling (e.g. Bowser's Grab releases and maybe bits of DeDeDe's chaingrab that need him to pummel) or those where you have to wait for a short time (e.g. IC's) and I imagine it'll mean that characters who suffer from grab release stuff (e.g. Mother Boy's and Squirtle) won't take as much damage since people won't be able to get as many pummels in before they break out

 

[xxwolfwoodxx1]

wow this is such great news, I'd be interested in other methods though since I am right handed and my left hand is a little ******** at times. rotating the dpad is not easy for me (but I'll certainly be practicing the hell out of it), and the change in hand position is uncomforable

what next? turbo controllers? loljk

but hey I would like to see if someone would test it out with one to see how much more/less effective effective it could be

 

[Conviction]

Sooooooo Fox owns now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceqPOUwb_7o

Watch until end

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Nah, that ain't "own" worthy. It's interesting though.

Now, if Falco or Wolf could do that, that could be "own" worthy. Needs hitstun to be at that level.

 

[Nestec]

Diagonal lasers? What the...

That's cool, but how is that useful?

:green:

Ninja'd by Niddo. What he said.

 

[Z'zgashi]

omfg how do you do it?

 

[Nidtendofreak]

omfg how do you do it?

Look at his lock'd topic on the Fox boards. It explains it apparently.

 

[deepseadiva]

Man.

Now we all have to watch out for that extra 2% when recovering high.

+4 spots Fox

 

[Z'zgashi]

@Meno: Hes already too high

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Man.

Now we all have to watch out for that extra 2% when recovering high.

+4 spots Fox

One day, I hope Fox wins a timeout by getting the percent lead just on the last second by this tech

 

[BigLord]

If Falco could do that, or even Samus, then yeah, we're pretty much dooomed. DOOOOOMED!

 

[Takeover1806]

thanks kprime for that AT.
mad **** for characters like ddd, falco, olimar, and icies.

 

[Yikarur]

you can't break out of grabs if they throw immidiately so it doesn't matter mostly.

 

[Z'zgashi]

When do you input the quarter circle?

 

[Conviction]

Like if you were wavebouncing.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I see, so ridiculously fast, got it.

I would lol so hard if we found something like this for yoshi's eggs.

 

[Conviction]

Tech skill, :o

 

[Z'zgashi]

Well, wavebouncing isn't that bad and I do it all the time, but doing a quarter circle that fast sounds difficult >.>

 

[Conviction]

Any results??

 

[Flayl]

I wonder how long it's going to take. I'm guessing 10 more posts or so.

edit: I might be overestimating the board's, uh... skill at the game. Yeah.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Yeah, I can pull it off, not always consistantly though. Only tried for about 2 mins though

 

[MJG]

K Prime: Toogood

 

[Hylian]

Yeah, I can pull it off, not always consistantly though. Only tried for about 2 mins though

...Seriously?

The fox laser thing is fake.

Edit: And the grab breakout thing doesn't really affect good ic players.

 

[Conviction]

Haters gonna hate

Falco can do it too! :O I'll get a vid as soon as I can.

 

[Hylian]

I think it's dumb to make people sit and practice something that is impossible. I would rather not waste peoples time and it really isn't funny to me. Maybe to one person specifically it would be funny but not a lot of people.

 

[-Mars-]

Iblis is it fake or not? Lol.

I wonder if this is trolling.