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#HBC | ѕoup

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Surri, i tried playing you last weekend but i didn't see you on.

good thing i'm coming home on wedsnday. be prepared mang. :p

also, Sklrx, he doesn't lag at all when i play him lol
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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perhaps i never notice. o well.

seems like everyone lags on galaxy these days.
 

Surri-Sama

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I usually dont see my lagstat higher then 10 after a few matches(unless something unexpected happens obviously) and there are others who are the same.

I dont think it's possible to keep 0 lag stat for very long. Something seems to mess it up even if there is no visible lag during the game
 

WOTG

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You can keep me off your list, Nova. I already said I no longer want to be a part of it. Thanks. :)
 

KoRoBeNiKi

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My B tier based of experience playing and tourney results

Kabal
Peek
Near
Marioreincarnate
Legendary
Dock
Koro
Surri sama
Ybombb
Denken
Zodiac
Th3kuzinator
Zhinshin
Saske
Sin
I haven't played Dock. Saske is way too low, Denken, Ybombb, and zodiac are way too high

I also win vs Surri if we both play serious characters

I also recently found out that Legendary has gotten really good (anyone else seen this). he wins vs my mains now, his Falcon can beat my Yoshi loll.

In other words, mine would be, not including Dock:
Kabal
Peek
Legendary
Koro
Marioreincarnate
Surri

Some other people
 

NovaSmash

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saske isnt any better than any of the ppl ahead of him imo and i have played all of them
 

NovaSmash

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I took marioreincarnate off my list. wouldnt want to underrate his uber l33t malva-level skills that hes obviously hiding because hes always sandbagging.
 

sharksquail

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i played Denken and Legendary a couple of days ago, and i would prob rank them at the same skill level. I would say move Legendary above Denken
 

th3kuzinator

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Legendary must have sandbagged the crap outta me.

How do I have so much more trouble with denken than with leg.
 

NovaSmash

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i saw legendary beat fireblaster 3-1 on livestream, thats y i think he should be near top of B tier.
 

NovaSmash

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Ok, I'm not very much of an ego person, but you're a ****ing idiot for forgetting that it was friendlies and I was picking link the whole time.

Typical gav.
Why are u telling me that they were friendlies like most games on kaillera arent friendlies. He beat ur falcon and he beat u with samus which im sure he doesnt use. Legendary also mentioned that he beat you 3-0 in a previous SERIOUS set. Stop trying to make urself look better, ur washed up.
 

th3kuzinator

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Because Denken is much better. Seriously.
Thats what I have been saying since Day 1, but everyone just refuted me and said they could beat denken all the time. When I told them he was sandbagging, they replied that he "never sandbags" even though when I am at 250 damage he still spams mario tornado at me for fun.

Denken is really good, he is around my level when he is fooling around, let alone serious.
 

Surri-Sama

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Again, not winning is a bad excuse for not winning.

Denken doesn't do tourneys and he "sandbags" all the time.

So HOW good is he REALLY then....and WHO knows it?...lol

Denken is average
 

NixxxoN

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Again, not winning is a bad excuse for not winning.

Denken doesn't do tourneys and he "sandbags" all the time.

So HOW good is he REALLY then....and WHO knows it?...lol

Denken is average
And thats why this kind of list isnt very good / not accurate. Some players dont feel like trying all the time just to prove their true level.
 

NovaSmash

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"Sandbagging is the act of playing poorly on purpose. Most of the time, players sandbag in friendly matches to keep others from learning their style, or to be allowed into easier divisions for tournaments. Other times, in professional matches, when a small amount of money is on the line, players sandbag in hopes of winning more money at a later time. "
- from smash wiki

I can understand sandbagging if you play in CONSOLE tournaments FREQUENTLY but not for playing online in random games. Alot of people apparently like to turn on their pc and log onto kaillera everyday just to NOT try at a video game. Anyone who is known to sandbag alot shouldn't even be considered.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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sandbagging - the exaggerated excuse of professional and non-professional players implicating that one is not playing at full extent to merely psyche out a player.

that's my definition, at least, i don't think people purposely sandbag unless they really have too much ego to even care.
 

KoRoBeNiKi

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i joke around a bit when going online. I usually use a random or go for chains that really don't work when playing people I know. I go srs bsns if the other person is also or if its a tournament match.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I don't mind joking around, i just don't like people who are like "herp derp i was sandbagging"
 

th3kuzinator

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I dont mind joking around either. But when you are just playing for fun and then lose to a person who is not as good as you, its annoying as hell when they brag to everyone they beat you.

Honestly, you should only brag if you win in a tournament match.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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oh christ do i hate that, and then you try to verse them again and they spam in the main chat how good they are and how much you suck and they refuse to verse you.

all of my hate.
 

MarioReincarnate

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sometimes I play to pass the time, just to relax my brain after a long day at work... I just want to get online and have a laugh or two, or try to pull off something new or a combo I like to do.... if I can get a triple grab combo in a falcon ditto, I don't mind getting 4 stocked by someone not as good as me.

some people only have fun winning, but not me. dash fox actually rage quit once because he said something like "wtf are you doing you can be better than this" lol

just saying, people can be good even if winning isn't everything to them
 

th3kuzinator

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sometimes I play to pass the time, just to relax my brain after a long day at work... I just want to get online and have a laugh or two, or try to pull off something new or a combo I like to do.... if I can get a triple grab combo in a falcon ditto, I don't mind getting 4 stocked by someone not as good as me.

some people only have fun winning, but not me. dash fox actually rage quit once because he said something like "wtf are you doing you can be better than this" lol

just saying, people can be good even if winning isn't everything to them

The same thing happened to me a few times. I was playing this really competitive player who was worse than me. I beat him like pretty convincingly on friday. I then came back on Saturday and was just fooling around with falcon (a character I am not that good with anyway) and he raged when he started winning and said I was better than this and that I was "teasing him too much."

Some people take this game too srs
 

Frogles

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I dont mind joking around either. But when you are just playing for fun and then lose to a person who is not as good as you, its annoying as hell when they brag to everyone they beat you.

Honestly, you should only brag if you win in a tournament match.
this is the reason i go on random names now. i have more fun in a match when im trying stupid things or using a character im not great with than when im trying 100% but people get big headed and start being annoying.

"OMFG FROG I BEAT U!!" go **** yourself.
 

th3kuzinator

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this is the reason i go on random names now. i have more fun in a match when im trying stupid things or using a character im not great with than when im trying 100% but people get big headed and start being annoying.
this.
10 this'

Especially now that I am in V, people are like DUDE V IS LIKE THE BEST KLAN ON KAILLERA, I JUST BEAT ONE OF THERE MEMBERS LOLOLOLOL, IM TOO GOOD.

go **** yourself.
this.
100 this'
 

NovaSmash

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I dont know how to sandbag, i want to win every game i play. I try using new characters and do new stuff but usually lose alot. Maybe my attitude about smash comes from the way i was introduced to smash on kaillera when everyone used to 5 stock me
 

Sensei

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I like how people brag that they beat me online when I usually sandbag. I don't really sandbag against cool people, unless we both are just ****ing around. I also sandbag when certain players are really below my level in order to even up the match and make it more interesting. I don't mean to sound like a ****, but that is just facts. I'll also start some trash talk and say Frogles train shirts angers the Gods, and MATTS! should be in MATTS! tier.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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this is the reason i go on random names now. i have more fun in a match when im trying stupid things or using a character im not great with than when im trying 100% but people get big headed and start being annoying.

"OMFG FROG I BEAT U!!" go **** yourself.
1000000this

I love playing competively, but i also love playing casually and messing around.

i wish there was some way to balance both but it seems like either you try too hard and scare away the nubs or you don't try hard enough and they get big headed.

cool players, however, don't care either way.
 

The Star King

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I sandbag a little and try new stuff but I still try to play well enough to win at least. The only time I sandbag REALLY hard is when it's laggy and I don't feel like trying.

So basically, play for fun, but make sure you barely win every time at least so they don't brag lol
 

Fynal

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Sheer you should order the A tier, regardless of if its right or not, so people have something to discuss
 
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