North American ONLINE Player Tier List

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SheerMadness

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If your ego can't handle dicussing this without flaming STAY OUT OF THE THREAD.

Anyway I think we should give this a try. I think it would be a cool thing for all the online players to reference and use to get better. We can use this thread as a discussion where to place people.

Obviously everyone should try to be as unbiased as possible. For example, I will refrain from all discussion about where I am placed on the list. You guys will place me where ever you think I fit, I will have no say in my placement and will do my best not to comment at all when/if my placement is up for discussion. I highly suggest everyone does this.

I think I can start and end the S tier without much debate so I'll go ahead and do so:

SS Tier

malva00


S Tier​

Boom

JaimeHR, Frogles, Sensei


A Tier (Not Ordered)

A$
Nintendude
ECartman
SheerMadness
Fireblaster
The Star King
Firo





With that said, discussion on A Tier starts NOW. Position within a tier DOES matter. If someone is in a higher row they're technically higher than you.
 

SheerMadness

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Tier lists have always been lettered so I'd rather stick with tradition. =E

And please add your opinion about the current Tier discussion A$.
 

th3kuzinator

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For A Tier...

Boom

Jaime

Frogles

Sheer

A$

Star King

Nintendude

Sensei

Firo

YBOMBB

MarioReincarnate / ME

I am sure there are alot of people I am leaving out, but im drawing alot of blanks right now for some reason
 

King Funk

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For A Tier...

Boom

Jaime

Frogles

Sheer

A$

Star King

Nintendude

Sensei

Firo

YBOMBB

MarioReincarnate / ME

I am sure there are alot of people I am leaving out, but im drawing alot of blanks right now for some reason
Only Frog, and maybe Sensei and A$ are even close to Boom and Jaime's level. This is just my opinion though.

Nintendude and Sheer are excellent players, but just... not on Jaime's and Boom's level. =/
 

SheerMadness

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Posts like MattNF's are just as bad as ego flaming. If you think this is dumb STAY OUT OF THE THREAD.

Kuz, I think that's way too many people in A Tier. Remember Tiers are there to suggest significant skill level differences, and for example Boom is on a different level than most of the people you listed.

I think Boom and Jaime are the the only A Tiers.
 

The Star King

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Are we doing the highest skill leve of a single character, or skill overall with the entire cast? I'm guessing you, Sheer, are going to say the first, since you personally obviously value that more. Either way, I defeinitely don't deserve to be A tier (I know I'm not supposed to give input on myself, but I couldn't resist).

YBOMBB is horribly overrated.

@Sheer what about Fireblaster?
 

th3kuzinator

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ahh sorry I was under the impression we were only doing letters s, a-c. If we are going lower than c we can space it out much more.

for a:
Boom
Jaime
Frogles
 

King Funk

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With that said, discussion on A Tier starts NOW. Position within a tier DOES matter. If someone is in a higher row they're technically higher than you.
I don't get it, Sheer. Why do player tiers if positions within them matter? The reason we did some in Europe is because it's difficult to rank people so precisely, so we rather put them in categories of skill.
 

hamburglar

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nintendude for A tier all the way

if this was console only i would maybe say b tier but i think his online skill is pretty legit.
 

SheerMadness

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I don't get it, Sheer. Why do player tiers if positions within them matter? The reason we did some in Europe is because it's difficult to rank people so precisely, so we rather put them in categories of skill.
A Tier as an example. I think Boom and Jaime are the only A Tiers but IMO Boom is above Jaime. So I'd have Boom in the row above Jaime. If I couldn't really decide who was better I'd have them in the same row.
 

ballin4life

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To prevent going too many letters down you could have SS tier then S tier then A tier.

Also I'll get this out of the way right now:

lol online skill fake smash etc.
 

dandan

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i would say sensei and maybe tiger (if you still count him for online) could be added to a tier.
maybe frog as well, but not sure about that, have not played him enough (like 2 times).
 

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........... ..... No seriously (............)

S - Tier: malva00 obviously

A - Tier: SuPeRbOoM, John, JaimeHR

B - Tier: Most players who post on smashboards 64 section

C - Tier: Random nubs including myself :lick:

I haven't frequently 1v1'd everyone but I think it would be interesting to discover the harsh reality of what some think of me lol.
 

Surri-Sama

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If we are going to keep this on track..dont post just to give a negative opinion on the topic...

This CAN WORK but it's up to you guys..not me really...
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I think i deserve B Teir, i can give alot of A teir people a run for their money, i would like A teir, but i don't think i qualify just quite yet. :p
 

MarioReincarnate

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I like the ss tier idea...

but def boom and jaime...
john: no because he can still get frame *****...
frog: maybe? been awhile...
sensei: never see him online...
MATTS!: can we have an sssss tier?

no one else comes close to consistently 2-3 stocking me
 

NovaSmash

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S tier:
Malva
boomfan
jaimehr

A tier:
frogles
nintendude
A$
fireblaster
sheermadness
Zenyore
Sensei
Johnny
Peek (he's probably rusty now)

B tier:
Ybombb
Denken
marioreincarnate
shootingstar
Korobeniki
kabal
PD
Mattnf
Surri-Sama
MATTS!
Jbandrew
The3kuzinator
Zodiac
shablivion

C tier:
WOTG
Agent 21
Novakane
Most people on galaxy64
 

L1ON

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I know this is for online, but I wonder if tigerbombz will drop in and tell us how he rapes haha

Also I'd like to say that even though my credentials for these opinions are ... meh... I'd almost vote:
SS
Malva
S
Jaime
Boom
A
...etc
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Thats one complex discussion we got @ euro tiers.

1)
A player mains Pikachu
B player mains Link

both are exactly the same skill

A player should win because of the char tiers. Does that make A better than B?

2) Should players who can play all chars in a good level be boosted on the list? I think so but others think its ok to only have 1 main and know nothing about the rest of chars.

3) Campers and gimpers have to be considered good just because they get wins?

4) Do players who have great comboing skills have to be boosted on the list? I think so but others dont

Yet another contradiction twoards teir lists for players..

this is why i neglect teir lists for players, they're human, not a computer that has built in moves and has its limits. It works for characters because we know what they're capable of, how they play etc. players are just too darn complicated for a teir list. :(
If you have only 4 ranks, it would be players who are waaay better than the others in the same tier. But its impossible to have a correct list no matter how many tiers you have. But you get some kind of view if the list is well considered with enough tiers.

There is alot of great smashers that people don't know about;and there are far too many players to put into one tier list.

also, do see my quotes, they provide a more justified arguement twoards this.
and before you say "lol u mad cuz you X teir" no, i'm not, i just don't think this will benefit at all and will create even more elitism and ego...

This is almost IF NOT excactly like us having the arguement of who gets in the backroom, or if the backroom is even needed.
 

SheerMadness

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Ok so everyone can agree Boom and Jaime are in the S Tier (instead of A now).

Some people are saying Frogles/Sensei. I think they're close, but I'd put them at the top of A Tier instead.

It would be easier if we could get Boom and Jaime in here to tell us who they have the toughest time against.
 

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S tier:
Malva

A tier:
boomfan
jaimehr
frogles
nintendude
A$
fireblaster
sheermadness
Zenyore
Sensei
Johnny
Peek (he's probably rusty now)

B tier:
Ybombb
Denken
marioreincarnate
shootingstar
Korobeniki
kabal
PD
Mattnf
Surri-Sama
MATTS!
Jbandrew
The3kuzinator
Zodiac

C tier:
WOTG
Agent 21
Novakane
Most people on galaxy64
howd i get so bad?

EDIT: holy **** i was infracted quick
 

MattNF

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S tier:
Malva

A tier:
boomfan
jaimehr
frogles
nintendude
A$
fireblaster
sheermadness
Zenyore
Sensei
Johnny
Peek (he's probably rusty now)

B tier:
Ybombb
Denken
marioreincarnate
shootingstar
Korobeniki
kabal
PD
Mattnf
Surri-Sama
MATTS!
Jbandrew
The3kuzinator
Zodiac

C tier:
WOTG
Agent 21
Novakane
Most people on galaxy64
lol at zenyore and nintendude being above me

also I pwned frog in one of MATTSs tourneys
 

Surri-Sama

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I dont know why people are so concerned about NovaSmashs list lol...just let it go and make your own...get er on the ball

I obviously feel unjustified by it aswell...but **** sux...no one seems to think i'm very good :p

bad tourneys when i came back i suppose...I'll beat Tiger to redeem myself!

(or as Boom would say "pps vs pt" :p)


And either way if i get placed low on this list im sure i wont start losing because of it :o
 

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S tier:
Malva

A tier:
boomfan
jaimehr
frogles
nintendude
A$
fireblaster
sheermadness
Zenyore
Sensei
Johnny
Peek (he's probably rusty now)

B tier:
Ybombb
Denken
marioreincarnate
shootingstar
Korobeniki
kabal
PD
Mattnf
Surri-Sama
MATTS!
Jbandrew
The3kuzinator
Zodiac

C tier:
WOTG
Agent 21
Novakane
Most people on galaxy64
Lol this list is horrible, and lol at you putting Zodiac above me. ;[

And Agent right below me and you below Agent? It's also missing people.

Double Edit: Wow... Sorry Surri?
 
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