Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[Wario Wario Wario]

Honestly, I agree with the video title, the first game's complexity was fine. Turning the game into a platformer Guilty Gear will probably turn off a lot of people, given how centralizing the meter is.

It's not a critical video for the most part, I think "too many mechanics" is meant in a positive light.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Honestly, I agree with the video title, the first game's complexity was fine. Turning the game into a platformer Guilty Gear will probably turn off a lot of people, given how centralizing the meter is.

From what playtesters are saying, 2 is slower, so it's not gonna be THAT overwhelming. Besides, casuals, if they even find out NASB2 is meant to appeal to them more than launch 1 could, can just spend the meter on supers and otherwise play the game like Smash.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

I put Neopets there Nick while they did not make a show for it, they DID promote it with their brand, back then you can find cards with the Neopets along with Monkey Quest and other Nick characters, Nick promoted Neopets with Monkey Quest toghether once in Comic Con, they even had a collab with a special Spongebob plush in the gameView attachment 375804

The fact that Nick owned Neopets at one point is mind-blowing. Had we had a Neopets rep, who do you all think would've been the best choice?

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The fact that Nick owned Neopets at one point is mind-blowing. Had we had a Neopets rep, who do you all think would've been the best choice?

Bruce Forsyth.

 

[LimeTH]

The fact that Nick owned Neopets at one point is mind-blowing. Had we had a Neopets rep, who do you all think would've been the best choice?

One of the actual characters like Dr. Sloth or one of the Faeries would make the most sense, but I would be okay with just playing as a Kacheek, that was my favorite Neopet as a kid.

 

[Opossum]

The fact that Nick owned Neopets at one point is mind-blowing. Had we had a Neopets rep, who do you all think would've been the best choice?

Dr. Sloth, Queen Fyora, the Space Faerie, or King Altador would probably make the most sense from like, a lore perspective, but they could also do one of the more popular and notable pet species (Kacheek, Shoyru, Lupe, Uni, Kougra, Grundo, etc) and have a moveset using Battledome weaponry.

 

[Baysha]

I know very little about Neopets and it's never gonna happen for various reasons but I feel Neopets rep would be an absolute banger.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

From what playtesters are saying, 2 is slower, so it's not gonna be THAT overwhelming. Besides, casuals, if they even find out NASB2 is meant to appeal to them more than launch 1 could, can just spend the meter on supers and otherwise play the game like Smash.

Problem is, the game's playerbase may be as small as 1's within a month or two, meaning it's just gonna be tournament diehards and grinders.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Was browsing the Discord for playtester info, and found a post by Quick Gaming (QG) with this screencap. The Wild Waterfall scene in the NASB 1 portion of the trailer is for certain beta and not accidental NASB 2 footage. (if the non-updated character models didn't make that clear)

 

[RileyXY1]

Was browsing the Discord for playtester info, and found a post by Quick Gaming (QG) with this screencap. The Wild Waterfall scene in the NASB 1 portion of the trailer is for certain beta and not accidental NASB 2 footage. (if the non-updated character models didn't make that clear)
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Yeah. I still think that Leo and Lincoln will stick around regardless.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Was browsing the Discord for playtester info, and found a post by Quick Gaming (QG) with this screencap. The Wild Waterfall scene in the NASB 1 portion of the trailer is for certain beta and not accidental NASB 2 footage. (if the non-updated character models didn't make that clear)
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I've got a new one today, get to speculating!

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Yeah. I still think that Leo and Lincoln will stick around regardless.

Why would they not? There's no way either of these two are getting cut

 

[RileyXY1]

Why would they not? There's no way either of these two are getting cut

Because some people believe that we're only getting the characters that are on the leaked poster.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Problem is, the game's playerbase may be as small as 1's within a month or two, meaning it's just gonna be tournament diehards and grinders.

That's why I said "if they even find out NASB2 is meant to appeal to them more than launch 1 could".

 

[darkvortex]

Why would they not? There's no way either of these two are getting cut

Some people think we're not getting anyone else beyond who's on the leaked art

 

[Master Hero Sock-on-Rye]

Problem is, the game's playerbase may be as small as 1's within a month or two, meaning it's just gonna be tournament diehards and grinders.

If a game's playerbase was the only measurement to its longevity, Melee wouldn't still be at pro tournaments to this day.

Besides, it's the speculation and the money that really fuels a game to get another installment. The amount of players using it comes after that.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Because some people believe that we're only getting the characters that are on the leaked poster.

Some people think we're not getting anyone else beyond who's on the leaked art

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Have they been paying attention to Smash Bros?

64: 6
Melee: 14
Brawl: 11
Wii U/3DS: 10/11
Ultimate: 19 (not counting the back of the art)

So does that means after 20 something years, we're getting only these amount of fighters?

Yeah.....no. They should start doing more research before jumping to conclusion

We don't know if there's any cuts yet. We don't know if anyone is being bumped to DLC (might be silly to do). So until the datamine shows anything, we're in the uncertain

 

[Guynamednelson]

Besides, it's the speculation and the money that really fuels a game to get another installment. The amount of players using it comes after that.

If the game's playercount is as low as NASB1's right out of the gate, people won't buy it, resulting in them NOT getting the funds for NASB3/another DLC pass.

 

[darkvortex]

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Have they been paying attention to Smash Bros?

64: 6
Melee: 14
Brawl: 11
Wii U/3DS: 10/11
Ultimate: 19 (not counting the back of the art)

So does that means after 20 something years, we're getting only these amount of fighters?

Yeah.....no. They should start doing more research before jumping to conclusion

We don't know if there's any cuts yet. We don't know if anyone is being bumped to DLC (might be silly to do). So until the datamine shows anything, we're in the uncertain

I.don't think all 11 are cut but I do think there will be some. I feel like they'd have just said otherwise

 

[RileyXY1]

I.don't think all 11 are cut but I do think there will be some. I feel like they'd have just said otherwise

I do think that there will be cuts. I'm just not expecting a whopping eleven of them at once.

 

[Simplythe1]

The fact that Nick owned Neopets at one point is mind-blowing. Had we had a Neopets rep, who do you all think would've been the best choice?

Going back and looking at the Neopets characters, dang, we could have had some cool fighters if Nick kept the IP

 

[CapitaineCrash]

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Have they been paying attention to Smash Bros?

64: 6
Melee: 14
Brawl: 11
Wii U/3DS: 10/11
Ultimate: 19 (not counting the back of the art)

So does that means after 20 something years, we're getting only these amount of fighters?

Yeah.....no. They should start doing more research before jumping to conclusion

We don't know if there's any cuts yet. We don't know if anyone is being bumped to DLC (might be silly to do). So until the datamine shows anything, we're in the uncertain

The art that leaked isn't the boxart, it's a key art and the first Nasb key art had every base characters on it.

Also "doing some ressearch" on a completely unrelated franchise make no sense.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

With all the playtester info that's come out since the mechanics trailer, I am now a fully converted NASB 2 believer. This game is gonna be SO good, even if every veteran not seen is cut or whatever other caveat pops up - the meter looks so damn fun, supers are being handled perfectly, and I can't wait to learn more about the mechanics as I play. I even think the character reworks are OK now, since this is for all extents and purposes an INO sequel.

 

[ivanlerma]

Spoiler: Large image with hints to the leaked newcomers

Seeing this, it kind of makes me glad we only got 2 new shows in base NASB's roster, since all the remaining shows Ludosity and Nick would care about adding are all in the top row, with the possible exception of Glitch Techs. We'd be running out of new shows to add faster than you could say "Canceled during season 1"

Did they get the greenlight for Rock, Paper, Scissors?

 

[Simplythe1]

Did they get the greenlight for Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Some of the show has already leaked, you can find the theme song online, along with some clips and episode summaries, honestly the show is pretty childish and I really don't see it survivng past 1 season, and Nick is totally not helping seeing how they keep delaying its premiere

 

[ivanlerma]

in fairness garfield was taken off of garfield.com

i miss the garfield website

Some of the show has already leaked, you can find the theme song online, along with some clips and episode summaries, honestly the show is pretty childish and I really don't see it survivng past 1 season, and Nick is totally not helping seeing how they keep delaying its premiere

I see

 

[Geoffrey Druyts]

Looks like retail pre-orders are up:

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Also, it looks like they added Lucy's picture to the site, not sure if this is something recent or not, as I haven't been looking at the site daily. Nigel's picture remains unused.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Looks like retail pre-orders are up:

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Also, it looks like they added Lucy's picture to the site, not sure if this is something recent or not, as I haven't been looking at the site daily. Nigel's picture remains unused.

I saw Lucy on the site a few days ago (last week).

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

On the topic of showcases...

 

[dlewis53]

On the topic of showcases...

Nice!

So it sounds like we'll start getting them pretty soon!

 

[LimeTH]

On the topic of showcases...

Sweet. Any word on when we’ll start seeing them?

 

[dlewis53]

Just kind of a random thought, but do you guys think that the idea of Plankton piloting a robot with himself on top of the head was inspired by how he's playable in Super Brawl 2 (where he's mind-controlling a buff background fish)?

 

[MBRedboy31]

Just kind of a random thought, but do you guys think that the idea of Plankton piloting a robot with himself on top of the head was inspired by how he's playable in Super Brawl 2 (where he's mind-controlling a buff background fish)?

I think it’s more so just that they wanted to pick a vehicle for Plankton where everyone can easily and clearly tell it’s him even on large stages with the camera zoomed very far out such that Plankton himself is barely visible, and this particular mech from Sponge out of Water that looks like him works great for that, while still having him be visible when the camera is zoomed in.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I think that the mech from All star brawl 2 is much better than the one from Super brawl 2 because not only it's based on canon Spongebob, but it's also feels like you're playing Plankton in a way because the mech is based on his design. In Super brawl 2 it feels like you're playing as the background character more than Plankton and it's a very weird pick because it's not even accurate to something Plankton ever did (ironically this background character did get a robot form very recently in the episode Welcome to binary bottom).

This is why at first I wasn't very found of Plankton fighting on a mech. With Super brawl 2 it doesn't feel like you're playing as Plankton on a mech, it just feels like you're playing as the background character. If you would have put Plankton on Karen, it wouldn't have really felt like playing as Plankton with Karen, you would just control Karen. So I think having a Plankton shaped mech is a good idea.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Here's a document from the Grinders discord detailing all the playtester info

Other confirmed NASB 2 stuff

This list is a compilation of official information from beta testers, developers, and more opaque parts of video reveals, other information can be found in current and future gameplay and character showcases. If something isn't on here it was probably the main subject or explicitly mentioned part...

docs.google.com

In particular, the tidbits that will be most relevant to this thread's mostly casual users.

• character showcases will be about 2 minutes long and not cover every move to compensate for expanded roster and move sets
• they will also be dropping soon
• every character has 3 taunts
• you won’t have to press jump to go through plats
• landing lag and knockback systems are part of the 98% different from NASB1
• most likely no install supers (transformations), as they must be hit to activate
• EX strongs are a thing

 

[Geoffrey Druyts]

On the topic of showcases...

Awesome, I hope we'll start getting them next week, or best scenario, we get our first one on friday.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

Just kind of a random thought, but do you guys think that the idea of Plankton piloting a robot with himself on top of the head was inspired by how he's playable in Super Brawl 2 (where he's mind-controlling a buff background fish)?

Honestly I forgot that the design they used for the robot was actually from one of the movies.

I initially assumed that it was loosely based off this robot from one of the earlier episodes

 

[BluePikmin11]

Here's a document from the Grinders discord detailing all the playtester info

Other confirmed NASB 2 stuff

This list is a compilation of official information from beta testers, developers, and more opaque parts of video reveals, other information can be found in current and future gameplay and character showcases. If something isn't on here it was probably the main subject or explicitly mentioned part...

docs.google.com

In particular, the tidbits that will be most relevant to this thread's mostly casual users.

exciting stuff! can't wait!

 

[Mr Hairyman]

First NASB 2 Spotlight Trailer is out!

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

oh my god hamster cage stage. always wanted that in a platform fighter.

EDIT: Temple stage is Reptar Ruins confirmed. The dragons match up