Nice Point Mafia Day 6 (5/8 to Lynch, Deadline: Saturday the 19th at Midnight)

[SwordsRbroken]

He's definitely done a poorer job at countering arguments then I have. In fact, the validity of his claim certainly doesn't match the shoddiness of his arguments in reply before the claim. He's a better lynch candidate than I.

This is you pointing the finger at me. "Lynch Swords instead! Don't lynch me!" Die Scum.

I'm not. Gave up when you said you killed him. Stop puttin' words in my mouth.
I'm sure he's scum from the start now, at least.

You said earlier that you didn't think the claim was valid, or words to that effect. Now you are saying you gave up when i said i killed him. I doubt that Cello is scum. OS was totally against Cello and Nic D1. I have yet to see you even construct a decent case on Cello.

 

[Xiivi]

Day 2 Vote Count 4
(5) swordsrbroken: Jungle, Clown, Gheb, Sold, SSBF
(5) meta-kirby: Cello, Nick, Rockin, Kataefi, Swords
(0) super smash bros. fan:
(0) cello_marl:
(0) gheb:
(0) mentosman8:
(0) Jungle:
(0) nicholas1024:
(0) clownbot:
(0) rockin:
(0) kataefi:
(0) sold2:

Not Voting: Mentos, Meta

7/12 to Lynch

Deadline May 23rd, 11:59 P.M.

 

[Rockin]

Rockin are you readign Swords at all? What about him is town?

To be honest, not much, but I rather him alive cause his claim matches up with D2 result. It's like asking 'why keep SSBF alive?', which the answer would be 'because his claim matches up with the predict Cello went through N1'

To be honest, I'm comfortable lynching either Swords or MK, but I'm a little hesitant on Swords cause of the claim.

Swords claim is obviously a lie FoS Rockin

Can you explain how exactly?

Yes.
While I was fairly certain that TPK was scum, I backed off of OS in order to be able to absorb him at night and, essentially, take the chance of being able to hit two scum in the same day. When TPK flipped town, I was almost positive that OS was scum, which is why I continued with my plan. However, I didn't get his powers presumably because, if what Swords says is true, he was killed by the Vig first.

You mean the people you absorb die?

Don't let them lynch town. You're just talking out of your *** now waiting for enough votes to be cast on me to lynch me. It's crazy that it works, but hey, you're dealing with a bunch of people who only like to chime in when they feel safe enough to interject (Kat? Rockin? Yeahhhhh.)

Sorry about that. I've been recently casted in in the Code Geass game for JF as a replacement,so my activity has went down slightly. I'll do my best to fix that though.

I got a question for you MK...let's say that OS was alive and you absorbed him. Know you know that OS was a yakuza, how would this power work for you in your case? And if you could yak a person, Please expalin how this benefits Town at all.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Gheb

Swords wanted Overswarm dead D1. There is no way Swords-mafia would try to bus a Yak-scumbuddy D1

Distancing.

Also, out of all people, do you really think OS would have yakked Swords?

No, that has nothing to do with it. If we assume Swords started out as a Vig but got Yakked then he'd be just goon now. Yakked players generally lose their ability.

Also, have you noticed that Meta-kirby has yet to reply to my #914, but still claiming he's "defended everything". I even referred him to it again with #977, and despite posting since then, he still hasn't responded to it.

*shrugs*

Does it really matter if it's now or later? If not, will you join us in our lynch of MK?

@Gheb: Nick's points are good, but once again, what does it matter since we'll be lynching Swords later? If it makes you feel better, we'll lynch him toMorrow if his proclaimed target doesn't die, ok?

It does matter. Don't tell me it's that hard to understand. If we don't lynch Swords toDay then we'll screw the rest of the game for town.

He has to go toDay.

@all if i survive until N2, who should i shoot?

Mentos, in the event that MK will be the lynch over you.

Can you explain how exactly?

I can.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

We should not trust any claim until the yakked person is dead.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Gheb, Swords wanted Overswarm's head on a silver platter. There is no way you are telling me any scum would try to bus a yak when they can use the guy's role to recruit someone influential to their cause. Soft distancing, maybe, but not #1 target like Swords was doing. It'd be like bussing a mafia recruiter... just plain stupid. Not to mention, thanks to Sword's vig claim, if he was mafia then mafia would have to let town control their NK or sacrifice Swords.

Finally, why does it make a difference if he's lynched today or later? If he's mafia, we get the same result, that he and MK are both dead. However, if he ISN'T mafia, that'd be one less vig shot he'd get to use, which is only good for one party: MAFIA.

 

[Nicholas1024]

@Swords
Should MK be lynched and flip mafia, kill Gheb. He was pushing your non-mafia lynch extremely hard, whilst ignoring the wagon on MK-scum. Plus, OS never stayed on his D1 radar for long. The fact that he was determined to get your lynch in today should tell you that he wanted to keep you from using your night action.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Convincing....Gheb and Mentos are appealing night kills right now. Gheb because of his scummy tunneling and Mentos because of his lurking. Probably Gheb toNight. We can lynch mentos tomorrow.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Don't know if I should laugh or cry.

 

[Kataefi]

Yeah gheb why is there an urgency to lynch swords? You keep emphasising distrust on claims because of the yakuza - from what you're saying, if swords was yakked he wouldn't be able to shoot. So if he does shoot, he's not yakked. It's something easily validated imo. I think you'll need to explain in more detail how keeping swords alive specifically toDay is going to mess up town's game.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I never said that Swords' claim shouldn't be trusted because he got yakked. Just read through Simpsons Mafia (starts like p8 or 10 if you have 40ppp) and you'll see why you should never ever trust any claim if there is a CONFIRMED role in the game that changes somebody's allignment. HP Mafia is an older example but works just as well.

Quite simply, there is no way to handle this amount of WIFOM for the rest of the game if we keep Swords alive. I pray that mentos will show up soon because there's no way that Kat, Swords, Nick and Cello are all town and it's hard for me to believe that none of them can grasp this (at least Kat and Cello should imo).

 

[~ Gheb ~]

EBWOP: I really hope that mentos understands. He did play HP AND Simpsons after all.

 

[Deleted member]

Swords is still suspicous to me, but I am starting to notice him improving. He even manage to prove that I was parroting.

Meta-Kirby takes over as my top suspect. He's looking better for a lynch and I do agree with people here on suspecting him.

@Meta-Kirby: If you were so certain that Overswarm was scum, then you shouldn't have kept it a secret. Town needs information and we would have loved to hear why Overswarm was scummy to you. We might have pushed a Day 1 lynch on him if you actually told us why you were suspicious of Overswarm. Instead, we wasted a lynch on The Paprika Killer, a Vanilla Townie.

@Cello Marl: Thanks for explaining that. That clear things up.

@all if i survive until N2, who should i shoot?

Shoot the person you consider your top suspect. Personally, I want you to shoot Gheb 01 due to Nicholas's reasoning on #1007. Gheb is looking slightly suspicious now.

Also, at some point, we'll be lynching SRB. Does it really matter if it's now or later? If not, will you join us in our lynch of MK?

As long as scums/other non-townies get lynched or night killed, I really don't mind when they get lynched. And yes, given that Meta-Kirby is my top lynch candidate now, I'lll join the wagon in the lynching of Meta-Kirby.

Unvote: SwordsRbroken, Vote: Meta-Kirby

This is L-1.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Lol, how did i make an OMGUS on SSBF? I was voting him before he even was suspicious of me. And the wagon on MK is actually one of the more popular lynches today, so you don't have anything on me there either.

@all if i survive until N2, who should i shoot?

I forgot that you were voting and were suspicious of SSBF before hand after your attack on me =/. MK wagon is acceptable, it was just your reasoning for it, "he won't stop tunneling Cello," that annoyed me. I didn't see much tunneling on Cello myself, and tunneling isn't that big of a scumtell either.

I still don't like you, but your defense has gotten better and you've been doing some decent looking into MK. Unvote
Keep on contributing your own opinions, and I guess you're good for now.

I'm going to be V/LA all of Saturday, and maybe a bit of Sunday, dunno exactly what's happening for now.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Come on, just one more vote!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Well I guess lynching MK won't hurt us either as I said before. But ughghghgh letting Swords live after that claim. I still think Swords is the best lynch toDay and if you shoot me toNight in case you ARE the Vig then you should quit mafia forever.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

And I'd like to add that Swords has been scummy so you're a huge hypocrite (@nick) for saying I ignored the case on MK (which is a lie, I WAS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT MK UP TO DISCUSSION IN THE FIRST PLACE) when he BLATANTLY white-washed a lot of what swords has done.

Stop sibling riding once and for all.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm not. Gave up when you said you killed him. Stop puttin' words in my mouth.
I'm sure he's scum from the start now, at least.

And you say you're not tunneling him. Congratulation, you're being hypocritical.

 

[Deleted member]

BTW, by "Him", I meant, Cello Marl.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Brought up MK? True, you were the first to vote him, but you dropped it like a hot rock when the bandwagon started and switched to the other possible bandwagon, Swords.

Vote Meta-Kirby
FoS: Jungle / Swords

Double-Edged roles like Jailkeeper are generally town. I guess it could make sense as a mafia role too but I don't think we SSBF is Mafia. Let's lynch one of the three people I mentioned above, SSBF proxies his vote on me and we win this.

*snip*
Unvote Vote Meta-Kirby

*snip*
Anyway, I'm dropping Mentos off my suspicion list for the moment at least. His D2 play has been solid, and the reasons he gave for pushing Xonar and stuff in his defense were plausible.

As far as who's replacing him on the suspect list, that honor goes to Meta-Kirby. Here's why.

His first D1 post I'd like to look at is this:


(He FOS'd TPK in the following post.) This is just plain bad, as I outline in a later post. TPK had responded to Xonar's accusation of mass buddying, and Meta Kirby just completely misses the point. There were legit reasons to attack TPK, but that was definitely not one of them.

He doesn't give much content for a few pages, until he comes back with a scumlist.


Xonar flipped town, Cello was definitely D1 town (and probably still is), and SSBF has at least a chance of being town. In addition, Cello and Xonar had some serious heat against them D1, and given SSBF's playstyle, he's an easy lynch to push. Overswarm was at #4 on his suspect list. That way, he can help ensure OS survives until N1, and gets to yak someone.



He was on the TPK lynch, bypassing the chance at Overswarm.

And finally, his D2 play hasn't been a whole lot better. He has been attacking Cello a lot on the flimsy suspicion that he was yakked. Um... what? That's hardly grounds for a vote, let alone a lynch. So, I feel pretty confident going Vote: Meta-kirby
*snip*

MK, you seem to have forgotten that Vrael was Town in Smash Bros. :|

FoS MK

*snip*

Vote Swords

Obvscum has to die right now. Going into detail later.

 

[DtJ S2n]

EBWOP, I forgot to answer your nKill question earlier.
Any of the suspects you've listed up til now sound good enough, other than Gheb. I think you should decide based on how MK flips, since it looks like that's the lynch toDay.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Hey Sold2, hammer for us, would you? Thanks.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

W/e.

Unvote Vote Meta-Kirby

If he flips town then please quit mafia, Nick.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I will if nobody has anything left to say or if everyone wants me to, but to me it looks like there's plenty discussion still going on. No reason to end this day phase yet imo.

 

[DtJ S2n]

ebwop: oh. I guess that settles it.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Swords if you're the Vig please rid us of nick, especially if MK flips town.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

EBWOP: Or mentos

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Actually, shoot Nick. If neither him, Swords nor MK are scum then there's no way this garbage town has the slightest chance to win this.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@MK: Did you have any Dragon Balls?

@Gheb: If you had any Dragon Balls, you probably want to hand those off now.

 

[Xiivi]

Day 2 Ends & Twilight 2 Begins!

Day 2 Vote Count 5
(7) meta-kirby: Cello, Nick, Rockin, Kataefi, Swords, SSBF, Gheb
(5) swordsrbroken: Jungle, Clown
(0) super smash bros. fan:
(0) cello_marl:
(0) gheb:
(0) mentosman8:
(0) Jungle:
(0) nicholas1024:
(0) clownbot:
(0) rockin:
(0) kataefi:
(0) sold2:

Not Voting: Mentos, Meta, Sold

Twilight 2 until 05.22.2010 11:59PM EST

 

[Kataefi]

what made you decide to hammer gheb?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Twilight...how lame.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

what made you decide to hammer gheb?

Being tired of advocating simple logic that is idiot-proof.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Nick, are you done lurking? You're visiting dGames quite a while now. Why aren't you posting?

 

[Cello_Marl]

Swords, shoot Mentos. I think that's for the best.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

If neither mentos nor nick is dead toMorrow lynch swords.

Clown / Jungle are town.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Like seriously, he HAS to shoot one of them if he is actually town alligned.

 

[Kataefi]

We'll decide by the actions revealed toMorrow whether swords should be looked into more:-

Let's get mk in here - flip? thoughts? tell tell

 

[Deleted member]

Let's get mk in here - flip? thoughts? tell tell

If he were to flip scum, I would go after Gheb 01 for reasons that Nicholas explained in #1007. Another reason why I would go after Gheb is because his vote sounds like an attempt to bus Meta-Kirby to save his hides for later (His reasoning for hammering Meta-Kirby isn't very good, there are a lot better reason for hammering him). If Meta-Kirby flips scum, then we should by all means look at the connection Hilt/Gheb had with Meta-Kirby.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Nick, are you done lurking? You're visiting dGames quite a while now. Why aren't you posting?

Lurking? For most of the past hour I was mowing the lawn outside, and I'd posted right before then.

@Cello
You don't agree with my position of Gheb-scum?