NFL Thread

[Reizilla]

I think the only game I picked correctly today was Bills vs. Browns x___x

At least the Broncos are kind of looking like they're getting it together.



and as I type that, back-to-back roughing the passer penalties -_________-

 

[Stealth Raptor]

Also if anyone had jamal charles apparently he had like 34 fantasy points today

 

[Peeze]

go vikings

 

[Stealth Raptor]

go vikings

That was the least enthusiastic go team postt I've ever seen LOL

 

[Peeze]

Every time i get excited about them, they let me down. always.
I will play my excitement conservatively.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I'm looking at my Facebook, and chuckling at everyone who is raging. Apparently the Patriots going 1-2 for the first time in forever is that irritating / important to them.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

man after watching that game, i really hope they get this ref biz settled soon >.>

 

[ZIO]

That is the result the championship game in January should have bore witness to.

 

[theeboredone]

Happy for Torrey Smith. These kinda games are especially memorable to a player. Reminds me of the game Favre had after his father passed away.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That is the result the championship game in January should have bore witness to.

OH YEAH YOU'RE RIGHT LOL.

Too bad, so sad.

 

[Peeze]

man after watching that game, i really hope they get this ref biz settled soon >.>

Psh, did you see the vikings game? they gave harbaugh 5 timeouts and two illegal challenges.

 

[mood4food77]

Happy for Torrey Smith. These kinda games are especially memorable to a player. Reminds me of the game Favre had after his father passed away.

if it was against the raiders, he would've been 250+ with 3 touchdowns, the raiders just have bad luck with that

favre threw 4 TDs against the Raiders after his father died
Matt Cassel threw 4 TDs against the Raiders after his father died

But in all seriousness, I don't even know how Smith played. This wasn't a month later, a week later, or even a few days later. This was a day later, hell, hours later after hearing his younger brother died in a motorcycle accident. I don't think I could hold up my emotion for a job the next day of hearing news like that. That takes heart and he went out there and played his heart out. I send condolences and only wish for the best of his family. But Torrey Smith, you played with a purpose.

On the topic of these refs; DO NOT BLAME THEM! People are so quick to blame these refs for their "poor" officiating but really the fingers should be pointed at the NFL Owners and higher. They do not want to take money out of their own pockets just to get these referees more security and such. The Giants are so far the only team to blame the top guys of the NFL instead of these replacement officials (that I have heard so far). These refs are doing the best they can with only a week of preparation. They're used to NCAA D II rules, Arena Football rules, etc; not the NFL rules. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyAGZ41btx8 This video is of a college kid who got thrown into the spotlight after finding out his co-worker was not going to be there. You can see that he's clearly nervous and isn't doing a good job. Now look at these replacement officials, clearly they're not really ready to handle the big lights but they're doing the best they can. They just need some more time, this is only their 3rd week on the job while the old officials have 10+ years (for the most part).

But these officials do need to change. It was clearly evident during the SNF game. The refs should've thrown a flag on the first skirmish to let the players know that they're not ****ing around. They also need help to understand some of these rules and clearly, they're not getting enough. Hell, throw them in a room with Jon Gruden just so he can show them the rules for a few days. They're trying their best but it's not good enough and the NFL doesn't seem to care enough to help them out. Goodell needs to get his act together, the only thing he's done so far (how I feel, and I bet a lot of you feel as well) is help make the game safer. Which is great, but his "seemingly" lack of care for other aspects of the game really doesn't sit well with me.

The refs need help and everyone is growing tired of being patient, especially when games are taking 10+ minutes longer on average this year. (The Jets-Dolphins game took 4 hours!) They need help and no one is willing to give it to them, so before you point fingers at them, point them at the guys who don't want to help the regular officials at all.

 

[theeboredone]

Owners are not going to budge. So long as the money keeps coming in, they don't care. Maybe if their franchise player suffered an injury due to bad officiating, an owner would care. I forgot what game it was, but someone injured a D-linemen by chop blocking him illegally without a call on the field. Dude was pissed.

Honestly though, it's gonna come down to two people...

1. The players: If they say, "enough is enough" and stop coming to practice, and stop playing the games...well the fans are gonna get super pissed, but they will be PISSED at the owners for not giving the refs their money.

2. The fans: Fans need to stop watching the games. Yes last MNF's viewership dipped 10% from last year's MNF game, but stadiums are still being sold out, ratings are still good...if we stop watching the games, then the networks get pissed. The networks get pissed, and then they go to the owners/Goodell.

Personally, I do watch football, but no where near as much as I did last year. I don't have the luxury of watching 49ers games unless I stream them. Don't care much about the Cowboys. So it's not a big deal for me.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I would agree on not blaming the refs if they were consistent about their hesitation. Calling some illegal contact that isn't there, but then not calling it when it is blatantly there doesn't help their case. At the same time, players are spending too much time looking for flags... It's just a mess. @.@

I'm okay with games taking longer because they're properly spotting the ball and other instances where they may take longer than the original crew because they're getting things right. I think it was the Atlanta/Denver game where a commentator said "they may take a while, but they'll get it right" and that's pretty much how I feel about it.

I will say I absolutely enjoyed seeing no penalties for like the first 10 minutes of the Pats/Ravens game only to later see penalties on either every play or every other play. Dat crowd chant >.>

 

[Jem.]

Going to the Packers - Seahawks game tonight. The stadium and city is going to be ELECTRIC. Make sure you see how crazy and passionate us Seahawk fans are!! Gooo Hawks

EDIT: Imagine the horrid calls, but being in the biggest game of your cities life in the Superbowl. A lot of these calls aren't even phasing me because I'm a Seahawk fan scarred by the atrocious calls against us in Superbowl 40 by the real refs.

 

[Coolwhip]

Going to the Packers - Seahawks game tonight. The stadium and city is going to be ELECTRIC. Make sure you see how crazy and passionate us Seahawk fans are!! Gooo Hawks

EDIT: Imagine the horrid calls, but being in the biggest game of your cities life in the Superbowl. A lot of these calls aren't even phasing me because I'm a Seahawk fan scarred by the atrocious calls against us in Superbowl 40 by the real refs.

I'm not a packers or seahawks fan, but i will root for a seahawks victory tonight.

 

[M@v]

Go hawks. I believe. More importantly though, I'm still baffled how our QB throws for almost 400 yards, 4tds, and no picks.....and we still lose. Da fuc. Also it was against the raiders and we are 1-2 and the ravens and bengals are 2-1. This season's pretty much over already.

 

[Masmasher@]

dammit this officiating for this game is trash
flat out trash

and seattle shot themselves in the foot with all those penalties
but still...
rodgers will NEVER forget this night lmfao

DAMN green bay got ****ing robbed
but glad for Russell Wilson

 

[ahchoomattchu]

I remember hearing John Clayton on ESPN radio saying the replacement refs need to botch at least 2 games before there'll be serious talks again with the ref union.

This might be game #1. And I totally think that was an interception.

ESPN is going to be so good tomorrow.

 

[ZIO]

That end call was ****ing hilarious.

 

[ulises3000]

Oh my gosh, that whole game.
Should have been a pick coming from someone who wanted the Seahawks to win. Also that pass interference that wasn't called. And alot of other things but whatever, congrats to the Seahawks on the win.

 

[Virgilijus]

I would protest the result of the game if I were Green Bay. I can't find a single person on the internet who agrees Tate caught the ball.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Refs are 3-0. Best team in the NFL.

 

[M@v]

Jem picked a hell of a game to go to. Green bay is going to be trading in cheese triangles for salt cubes.

 

[theeboredone]

I was at the gym, and everyone was watching the end of this game. NO ONE agreed with that call. Then the highlights afterwards showed the bogus pass interference call and the roughing QB when Wilson threw that INT.

I already said I was boycotting watching the NFL. Now I'm super serious about it.

 

[ahchoomattchu]

Look at how the NFL is selling this.

 

[ZIO]

That dude's face on the right is hilarious

 

[Stealth Raptor]

lol man i really hope the ref situation gets figured out soon. hasnt directly effected any of the chiefs games outcome yet, but damn >.>

 

[theeboredone]

I know pass interference never gets called in those situations, but seeing that Packer fall down is just hilarious.

 

[ahchoomattchu]

I just realized that Jennings could have simply knocked the ball down and it would have been game over.

 

[CableCho57]

gotta go for the pick pad them stats

unless youre Brian Westbrook #respect

 

[Reizilla]

Best season ever. I love the refs. It's understandable how they could get the wrong call in that situation. Jennings caught the ball first, but Tate had gotten a hold by the time they got to the ground and probably had even more control by the time a ref got to see a clear shot. Once it was ruled a touchdown, it was just too hard to overturn.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

After seeing the Lions game (and the Jaguars game two seasons ago), I would go for the pick. Or at least heave the ball over my head and not knock it down >_>

 

[So Fatal]

I was pissed at the refs after the last Patriots games, now it's just redicolous.

 

[Peeze]

Refs are 3-0. Best team in the NFL.

Lol thats hilarious. Meanwhile tied for 1st place in the nfc north? the minnesota vikings.

 

[Coolwhip]

Refs are too good. LMAO

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Pretty sure one of the refs signaled for a touchdown and the other literally feet away signaled for a timeout. LOL

 

[Jem.]

Hmm.. Not the way I forsaw the game going. (I was at the game) The way I see it though, Kam Chancellor got a pretty phantom pass interference when the defense was off the hook and they would have kicked a field goal on the Packers only TD drive. So in my eyes, the right team won, but in the wrong fashion. We would have won on a game winning field goal instead. But overall, the officiating was pretty poor all game. Something Herm Edwards brought up is that they easily could have called roughing the passer on Clay Mathews on the Hail Mary too. It was a pretty late hit. Let us not forget: Golden Tate dropped what would have been the first game winner. So Seattle shot their own foot a lot of the game with and without penalties.

I am really confused by our offensive coordinator though. It's like he's afraid to give Russell Wilson a real chance. He doesn't need to just be a game manager. Of 2 deep passes, one was caught for a legit touchdown, and one that counts as a touchdown but shouldn't be. I know we have the beast, but he wasnt doing too much all game even though he ended with 98 yards. Our offensive play calling got so predictible, and I'm confused why we aren't doing PA Bootlegs/rollouts. Everytime we do play action its just a draw fake. Russell Wilson is pretty fast.. Get him outside the pocket. Run for a first, pass, or throw it away.

That said, I hope everyone believes me now about the Seahawks defense. My goodness. It's a shame that call is going to overlook how amazing the Seahawks D was, especially considering it felt like they were on the field the whole 2nd half.. Everyone said there was no way the Hawks D could do better than the 49ers D did. What an awesome game to be at though, although unfortunately the pass wasn't legit caught, but eh.. Superbowl 40 still scars me as a Seahawks fan, so I'm not gonna apologize for us finally getting a break.

EDIT: There was a Packers fan (female) two seats next to me who was literally in her seat crying because the Pack had the game it looked like.

 

[theeboredone]

Lol, dude, I watched a good chunk of that game, and the Packers got hit with way more bogus calls on their end than the Seahawks did.

Clay Matthews hitting Wilson on that last play was no where near a roughing the QB. Hell, even the interception Wilson threw should not have been Roughing the QB. Then you got that piece of **** pass interference call on 2nd and 20 that had no business being called.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hTFMD5NX1Q

You can see Matthews already starting his tackle right before Wilson releases it. If anything, Matthews had potential to ALTER the trajectory of the throw given how close that was. Not even ONE SECOND goes by before Matthews gets to him.

Your statement on Golden Tate supposed to have making the game winner is bogus too. That was ON HIM. That wasn't due to poor officiating, which is considered an external factor outside a player's performance.

 

[Jem.]

You realize NFL defenses are trained that you better only dive if you are convinced he is going to hold onto the ball, right? That was rightfully a roughing the passer on the INT Russell Wilson threw in the middle of the 4th because he dove, the ball was already out, and 2-3 seconds later he hits him (In the knees, at that) That's the risk NFL defenses take every week. If you dive early, youre hoping he holds onto the ball. If you dont dive, you're risking a mobile QB pushing you down or out-maneuvering you. That happens in every NFL game

If you take both touchdowns away from the teams, it's still a Seahawks lead. Seahawks didnt get assisted on the first touchdown.

Fact is, Seattle played well enough to win that game, but that wasn't the fashion it should have been in. And the biggest shame is one of the all-time great defensive performances we've seen vs a high powered offense is going to be forgotten and overlooked because of the final play/call. 12 points when the Packers didn't turn the ball over once, when the Seahawks D was on the field what felt like the whole 2nd half? My goodness. That was an ELITE D I saw out there

This was the 2nd monday night game I've been to where when we're all walking down the ramps to exit the stadium, everyone is chanting "Seaaaaa, Hawks!!!!!!!!!" I love that chant, haha. Love the fans here.