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[CableCho57]

tebow > everybody



but man RG3 looked like pro out there in his first game

 

[theeboredone]

RG3 > Sanchez > Peyton > Smith > > Tebow > Rogers

I don't even get the intent and thought process behind this.

Anyways, lulz.

 

[ZIO]

Tebow is a star.

 

[Peeze]

I really imagined RG3 would be the next jamarcus russell. Very surprised by his performance. Although the Saints D is terrible.

 

[mood4food77]

how could you even say that

jamarcus russell was lazy as hell, was no where near the athlete that RGIII is, and wasn't as genuinely nice as RGIII

let alone, RGIII got put into a better position to win than almost any other rookie QB has

 

[M@v]

Speaking of rookies, shoutouts to minnesota's rookie kicker Blair Walsh. 4 for 4, the last 2 being one to tie the game on the last play, and the other to win in OT.


Also, I tied in one of my fantasy leagues this week. We both got 99.5 points exactly O_o

 

[theeboredone]

My fantasy team sucks cause someone else drafted for me. FML.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vREi35khV0

Edit 2: Week 1's "Come On Man!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0grMj25AKmQ

 

[Rollz]

My fantasy team sucks cause someone else drafted for me. FML.

Don't lose hope Check FAs often. I picked up Victor Cruz on free agents last year before anyone really knew(including me) how good a year he was going to have. I came back from 0-2 and ended up winning my division :D This year some idiot in my league dropped Santonio Holmes early season...Now I have him on my bench.

 

[ZIO]

Man, I want to give Nicks another chance . . . but he's walking off a groin injury. He didn't get enough exposure last week, either.

But he's projected 19 points . . . That's all a big if. I'd rather go with someone more reliable in earning points . . .

 

[Stealth Raptor]

Wow what is up with our def, they may as well not take the field at this rate

 

[CableCho57]

man I know its only week 2 but do you guys think I should drop Tom Brady?

Alex smith is my other QB on the bench

FUUUUUUU what the heck Hakeem Nicks... I sat him on my bench this week QQ

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Man, I want to give Nicks another chance . . . but he's walking off a groin injury. He didn't get enough exposure last week, either.

But he's projected 19 points . . . That's all a big if. I'd rather go with someone more reliable in earning points . . .

...

lol

(I know this post was before the game, but you can't help but chuckle now, right?)

 

[ZIO]

Much good it dud me. My opponent had both Reggie Bush and Victor Cruz.

I got smoked.

 

[theeboredone]

I got myself a blowout win. All my players just played all around with Marshawn Lynch leading the way. Scored about a 100+ in a regular Yahoo league.

 

[mood4food77]

my two fantasy teams are on opposite spectrums

they both underacheived, but i won one league and the other i lost big cause EVERYONE managed to underperform

seriously, i have peyton and eric decker left and my team only scored 34 points.....it's not even like i have a bad team..i just left 40 points on my bench.......fml

 

[Reizilla]

Can't wait for the Pats or some other ******* team to play the Bucs, blow them out and run up the score on their "play until they lose" mentality. If they want to do that **** during the kneel, they deserve it.

 

[mood4food77]

anddddddddddddddd

peyton throws 3 picks in the first quarter....

yay team!

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I don't get the big deal about the Bucs playing football... The game wasn't over. You shouldn't care if Eli is going to kneel, still try to get the ball. They didn't have this grand plan to dogpile Eli after he kneeled or anything @.@

 

[theeboredone]

Everyone would have praised the Bucs if Eli fumbles, and Bucs get a hail mary TD. It was a one possession game...not a total blowout or multiple possession win.

YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME

 

[Reizilla]

Peyton just didn't want the stress of having to go 19-0, so he got his bad home of the season out of the way against a non-conference opponent.

 

[M@v]

.........they were at atlanta.

 

[Reizilla]

Don't know how I turned "game" into "home"...

 

[ZIO]

As bad as Peyton did, I got 17 points off Demarius Thomas, so I'm glad to have him.

If I didn't get pit up against that Reggie I would have won, easily. But then again, Adrian Peterson and McFadden were projected about 15-20 a piece and the two of them combined could even make 15.

I see why people get annoyed over this.

 

[M@v]

I needed matt ryan to get 3 more points to win my game

Went 2-1 in my espn leagues this week.

So now i'm 1-1, 1-1, and 1-0-1

 

[Peeze]

2-0
my team is amazing even though two of my draft picks fred jackson and antonio gates are injured.

 

[CableCho57]

I lost week 2 by 2.2 points

0-2 QQ

 

[Coolwhip]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95xnFPgGplw&feature=g-all-c

LMFAO too funny!

 

[mood4food77]

I don't get the big deal about the Bucs playing football... The game wasn't over. You shouldn't care if Eli is going to kneel, still try to get the ball. They didn't have this grand plan to dogpile Eli after he kneeled or anything @.@

because it's a bush league move, it's never worked, and all is does is cause injury

after doing some research, you can see that he tried it in 3 college football games, and not a single one of those games did he get the recovery and now this is the NFL, he can't go under the radar with this type of move

the kneel down is a move that ensures victory, it has never been messed up and the only way for it to mess up is a bad snap, while it isn't an illegal move, it's still a stupid move to use as the risk of injury is high as it's basically a cheap shot to get to the QB

the bucs will get blown out in their next game, they pissed off the football gods, YOU NEVER PISS OFF THE FOOTBALL GODS

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

because it's a bush league move, it's never worked, and all is does is cause injury

after doing some research, you can see that he tried it in 3 college football games, and not a single one of those games did he get the recovery and now this is the NFL, he can't go under the radar with this type of move

the kneel down is a move that ensures victory, it has never been messed up and the only way for it to mess up is a bad snap, while it isn't an illegal move, it's still a stupid move to use as the risk of injury is high as it's basically a cheap shot to get to the QB

Okay... so they should stop playing football because of a risk of injury? This was not a score of 36-7, like last night. What you're saying would make sense if it was so. No sense in exposing yourself when you're bound to lose. But if there's even a slight chance of causing that fumble again (he said in like 5 years of doing that, he caused 4 fumbles), then hey, take the option. Injuries happen all the time, it's unfortunate, but it's not something that should paralyze you from trying to win.

 

[mood4food77]

it hasn't worked....ever, it may have caused the fumble but they never recovered it, gregg easterbrook (an ESPN writer who always writes my favorite thing to read on ESPN, Tuesday Morning QB (or TMQ for short)), actually went back into the instances of when he caused the fumble, and in none of those recaps did rutgers actually recover one, NONE

this play legitimately goes for the knees (as it's the only way to go after the ball) putting the winning team's o-line in risk of injury, oh and it could happen that an offensive lineman rolls over the legs of the QB since the d-line NEVER EVEN GOT TO ELI IN THE FIRST PLACE

it's a stupid move, it's a cheap shot, yes no one wants to see a kneel down except the winning team but it's a classy way to end the game, saying that we're not going to run up the score on you, eli even announced that he was going to take a knee

it's a bush league move that will only result in injury (as a fumble has yet to occur on a kneel down in NFL history), and the football gods will punish those who appose good sportsmanship

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

What I'm failing to understand is what's "cheap" about it. Why is it different from staging a blitz to the blind side of a QB the first play of the game? Your objective is the same: get the ball (and win). Both involve risking injury because hey, you're being tackled by (usually) large people running at high speeds. Time, score, and situation should not matter until that clock hits :00. Technically, they probably wouldn't do it at the end of the first half because they would be thinking they've got 2 quarters to fill this gap. But that's not true near the end of the fourth quarter.

Essentially, you'd be telling me that the Miracle at the New Meadowlands should have never happened because Desean Jackson should have just fair caught the punt, and take the game to overtime. Instead, he took the punt and returned it for a win (and while the chance of a punt returned for a TD is much higher than getting a fumble out of a kneeling formation, they both run high risk-high reward probabilities). Think he wanted to change his mind when he saw Avant shaken up from pretty much delivering the game-winning block?

 

[mood4food77]

What I'm failing to understand is what's "cheap" about it. Why is it different from staging a blitz to the blind side of a QB the first play of the game? Your objective is the same: get the ball (and win). Both involve risking injury because hey, you're being tackled by (usually) large people running at high speeds. Time, score, and situation should not matter until that clock hits :00. Technically, they probably wouldn't do it at the end of the first half because they would be thinking they've got 2 quarters to fill this gap. But that's not true near the end of the fourth quarter.

Because you physically can't get to the QB on a kneel down fast enough. The Bucs never got close to Eli even when the o-line wasn't doing anything. On a blind side blitz, it's up to the QB to feel the pressure and get a good pre-snap read also with his left tackle being able to block the blitz. If the defense gets the sack, then those 3 things all messed up and it's a win for the defense. On a kneel down, the only way to force a fumble is to go for the ball, which is always low, so attack the o-line at the knees. The most common injuries in sports are knee injuries. See where I'm getting at? This type of move has no benefit. There has never, NEVER, been a case where QB fumbled the snap on the kneel down, so what are trying to prove? That you're a n arrogant coach who has no respect for the health of players? That's basically all it proves.

Essentially, you'd be telling me that the Miracle at the New Meadowlands should have never happened because Desean Jackson should have just fair caught the punt, and take the game to overtime. Instead, he took the punt and returned it for a win (and while the chance of a punt returned for a TD is much higher than getting a fumble out of a kneeling formation, they both run high risk-high reward probabilities). Think he wanted to change his mind when he saw Avant shaken up from pretty much delivering the game-winning block?

Again, different situation. It's up to Desean Jackson to determine whether he should fair catch the ball or not. He saw an opportunity to run it back for good yardage and he took that chance. It was up to the Giants to stop him and that clearly didn't happen. Going for the ball on a kneel down isn't even a high risk-high reward when the reward has never happened at the NFL level. Heck, even at the College level it didn't work. The kneel down is the sportsman thing to do, as you're telling your opponents: "yes we have the ball but we're not going to run up the score". It's still a bush league move that has no benefit but to cause injury to the other team. What happened to Avant was just an unfortunate occurance. It could've been avoided but again, the game would have gone into overtime if the block never occured in the matter that it did.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I understand where you're coming from now, but...

The kneel down is the sportsman thing to do, as you're telling your opponents: "yes we have the ball but we're not going to run up the score".

Maybe from some points of view. All I see it as is "here's another way to waste time without our running back screwing us over" in a close game like this.

 

[ZIO]

God lord, my RBs are either weak, or in for a rough week.

Peterson vs 49rs, McFadden vs Steelers, Kevin Smith vs Titans, and Johnathan Stewart is out for the week.

Who the hell should I choose for my two?

 

[M@v]

McFadden is a good rb, but remember this: Not only its the Steel Curtain, Carson Palmer is a very, very good friend of ours that we have abused over the years when he was Cincy's QB, so don't expect a passing game to work from Oakland. I think McFadden will get a ton of carries but not get anywhere. I just don't see oakland's offense producing.

Regardless, he's your clear cut 2nd best running back so i'd start him and hope for a td. I have him in a league and will probably start him because hes that much better than any of my reserve running backs.

 

[theeboredone]

I've listened to several radio shows talking about what the Bucs did. Former NFL players have clearly stated that O-Line will ask the D-Line if they are going to go hard on the kneel down. Of course, that takes the element of surprise that Schiano would be going for, but kneel downs have not always been "simple".

Honestly, I'm on the Bucs side, and if any team wants to be careful while kneeling down, simply have the QB do it from shotgun or have him take a few steps back before kneeling.

 

[theeboredone]

1. Being forced to watch the Cowboys game is torture. Both teams are playing turrible.

2. Watching my 49ers getting owned is disheartening.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I wish we got more than just the Bengals game here... Bengals have it in the bag =/

Edit: Of course, 40 minutes later, the game is tied. @.@

 

[ZIO]

I knew I should have dropped smith for Leshoure . . .

 

[Stealth Raptor]

man somehow the chiefs pulled that one out. Jamal charles is ridiculous as always. I know there is no way to quantify it but that was the worst chiefs game in history. Every coaches challenge was an overturn, one time they didn't even make a ruling on a touchdown and walked straight to the booth to "overturn" it. Unbelievable we need the actual refs back now