NFL Thread

[Reizilla]

As much as I would hate to see Peyton leave the Colts, I'd probably be okay with him taking over the Niners. I can't really think of anywhere else where I wouldn't just be pissed, of the teams that need quarterbacks, at least. Maybe the Raiders, but then I'd feel bad for him

 

[theeboredone]

Only problem with Peyton being on the Niners is that O-line is pretty shady. Smith was running for his life a few times.

 

[mood4food77]

peyton going to the NFC?

people are crazy, peyton thinks of family first, it's why eli wanted out of san diego (he did not want to play peyton in the playoffs unless it was the playoffs)

peyton is going to the highest bidding AFC team that isn't the jets

 

[theeboredone]

Because Peyton decides where he goes? Yeah, right. Unless the Colts cut him, trade says otherwise.

 

[mood4food77]

the colts can't trade him, it's in his contract

they are either stuck with him or they cut him

 

[theeboredone]

Did not know that. Interesting.

 

[Reizilla]

I didn't know that either. It's a bit of a relief, I guess.

I am of the belief that if Peyton is 100% healthy and goes to another team, they will definitely win the Superbowl.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Woah. What's up Mood4Food?

We should have score predictions for this Superbowl, heh.

 

[Reizilla]

27-31, Giants win on a late TD by Manning to Bradshaw.

 

[Masmasher@]

If you watched the game, aside from a few big plays, the receivers were not getting any separation. Crabtree is good, but he's a 2nd option at WR. They need a true WR on their team. IMO, they should have been running the ball more. A few times, they decided to pass when they had the run going, and it cost them drives.

Anyways, I'm happy for my Niners. They came a long way from last year and expectations will obviously be high given what Arizona and Seattle can do. I'm not sure if the Run D will be as good, but the pass D can always improve. Alex Smith has probably hit his ceiling, so I wonder if I would pull the trigger on Peyton Manning.

Go Giants.

They didnt show the down field most of the game though alex was running for his life
i thnk there were time especially in the fourth where the run was not the best option cause
they were 2 for 12 in converting 3rd downs and he need much more yards crabtree got the pass short and was always short of the first down in needed moments during the game
though he didnt do the best job of converting after the catch.

the run was stuffed mostly and just like rogers last week they didnt mind alex running it himself
even if subconsciously they were prepared for it more this week

 

[mood4food77]

alex smith and aaron rodgers are not michael vick

sure they're fast for QBs but they won't get far when running, vick will, big difference

so if they beat you with a run here and there, it's not that big of a deal when the defense is stopping every other option the QB has

i have never seen eli get beat up so much, he was abused, he was dirty, he got hit from every angle, but he got up like it was nothing each and every time, showing resilience, which is what you want from a leader

superbowl, 17-14 giants with a helmet catch for the game winning TD

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I'm terrible at score predictions, but I'll say 21-27 Giants. A stop on 4th down seals the deal.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Yesss the Superbowl is finally here. Another reason to party and get drunk on a Sunday.

Don't really care for either team I just hope to see a good game.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Don't really care for either team I just hope to see a good game.

This. So much. If the Superbowl is anything like the championship matches without the ******** mistakes in the endgame, I will be really happy.

A high-scoring shootout would be crazy, too.

 

[theeboredone]

If Giants win on another helmet catch, I'm calling conspiracy on this season.

 

[Peeze]

Giants just signed David Tyree's helmet to play in this game.

 

[Reizilla]

Who wants to take bets on how many sacks Brady will take?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Who wants to take bets on how many sacks Brady will take?

You're on.

I wager...six. Three in the first half, three in the second half.

Smooth Criminal

 

[theeboredone]

5 sacks. 2 by JPP.

 

[M@v]

From the sounds of things people are talking like the Giants are favored. We do realize we are dealing with a hungry Tom Brady who hasn't held the trophy in years right? Don't me wrong I want the Giants to take care of business, but we are going to see a beast from New England the likes of which we may have not seen before.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Really? If anything I'd think it's the Patriots who are favoured.

There's never been a team with just 9 wins in the regular season to take a Superbowl. But maybe that's why the Giants are favoured? IDK.

 

[etecoon]

Brady is only a beast when his offensive line lets him, and they seem to always do badly against the Giants. I think it'll be a close game and I definitely wouldn't expect Brady to be in video game mode

 

[Reizilla]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Pats are favored, I just really want the Giants to win. I'm going with 1 sack in the first and 3 in the second half.

 

[etecoon]

I really don't understand why everyone loves the Giants, with the exception of Coughlin not actively encouraging it, half the players on that team pretty much behave like the Jets. I much rather would have seen San Fran or even GB or New Orleans get the chance, ugh

Though part of me is happy GB is out because they were SO overconfident. Not as much trash talking before the game through the media as the Giants but when you hear some of the things that came out afterward, holy **** they were looking too far ahead

 

[mood4food77]

the way this giants defense is playing, i don't see how anyone can beat them, sanchez, romo, ryan, rodgers, and smith were all running for their lives against the giants and outside of the cowboys, each of them has a pretty damn good o-line

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!! none of our team behaves like the jets, we do not call out our own players, we are confident and do not need a coach to boast our status, we do it on the field, the only ones who really open their mouths are antrelle rolle and brandon jacobs (both who are known for doing such things), other than that, no one else really talks (there will be a comment here and there but really, don't compare us to the jets, we have a respectable team that has an owner who pretty much got the NFL out of the lock-out this year)


that reminds me, it figures these two teams would meet in the superbowl, both Mara and Kraft were the prime reasons on why the NFL lockout ended the way it did, which obviously without them, there would be no NFL season this year

pats are favored because they are a 13 win team playing against a 9 win team, so computer simulations has them winning about 52% of them time, averaging a margin of victory by less than a field goal

 

[etecoon]

I will definitely give you that, at least the trash talk is directed outwards where the Jets are completely self destructing...kinda like Ed Reed throwing Flacco under the bus, the Ryan effect lasts for years after his departure lol

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Ed Reed didn't really throw him under the bus though IMO... He was just saying what needed to be said. I'm sure he has no general criticism of Flacco from the AFC Championship, considering how much better he played overall (1st 300-yd postseason game I think?).

Anyone wanna take bets on the Pro Bowl?

 

[mood4food77]

the whole ed reed thing throwing flacco underneath the bus was not intentional in a way

he tried the whole criticism thing like a coach would but did it in the wrong way, he did not mean for it to sound like he was completely throwing flacco under the bus as he was trying to do a positive reinforcement thing

so, yes, while reed did throw flacco under the bus, it was not entirely intentional, which pretty much means he should never be a coach for a team, haha

the pro bowl is a joke, i remember watching it one year, david diehl (however he made it in) owned the d-ends life, putting the guy on the ground, but during the play, diehl helps the guy up and then the two of them play patty cake the rest of the play

yea i know they don't want injuries, but seriously! while it was comical to watch, they need something else for this pro bowl to be entertaining (i'd say do something like basketball, have a whole list of events that lead up to the pro-bowl game of athletes, like position obstacle courses and whatnot)

 

[Reizilla]

I'm pretty sure they do have a lot of stuff like that. And the pro bowl is supposed to be lighthearted.

Eli is a very likable guy. That's why people like the Giants, IMO.

 

[Stealth Raptor]

my mom haaaaates eli with a passion because he was a baby and didnt want to join the chargers cause they were a garbage team at the time

 

[theeboredone]

Vegas has the Pats favored by 3. The popular pick is Giants. Some probably having to do with the fact a lot of people hate New England.

The only players I like on the Giants are Coughlin and Eli. Eli is a competitor, and I have put him above Peyton (playoff wise) after the GB game. If he wins this, it will only cement it. It's funny how often Coughlin's job has been in trouble, and how it always seemed like the players were turning on him. Suddenly, they will go on a run and everything is right in the world.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

It's funny how often Coughlin's job has been in trouble, and how it always seemed like the players were turning on him. Suddenly, they will go on a run and everything is right in the world.

I have a feeling they'll be right back in that spot come week 14 or 15 next season.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

The only players I like on the Giants are Coughlin and Eli. Eli is a competitor, and I have put him above Peyton (playoff wise) after the GB game.

Isn't Eli 7-3 now in postseason, compared to Peyton's 9-10?

 

[etecoon]

Yeah, this is nothing new. Eli has been more clutch for a long time. I've always found it ridiculous that people elevate Peyton to such a level for being amazing in the regular season when he rarely shows up in the playoffs, he's great but there's a good 3-5 other QB's in the league I'd rather have

 

[ulises3000]

I'm guessing 33-27 Pats over Giants. Thinking Eli throws a late interception which gives the Pats a win. Just thinking he's going to need to come back late but will probably try to force a pass to Cruz. One of the few mistakes he will make. Just not feeling he's going clutch that day.

Also guessing Brady get sacked 4 times and fumbles early in the game.

And lol Pro Bowl. Last year it was 55-41 in favor of the NFC. Gonna guess Brees throws 3 TDs and NFC wins 48-38

Any MVP predictions anyone? I'm guessing Bress

 

[Jem.]

Neither the Giants nor the Patriots played that well in the Championship game, but I give the Giants more of a "that is okay pass" because the weather was terrible and played into the 49ers favor (And they were the underdog every game) you want to talk about destiny again, this Superbowl should be the 4th straight playoff game (similar to the 07 run) where the Giants are the underdogs. Yes, Tom Brady is hungry, but the Patriots proved again to struggle vs a team with a winning record. Joe FLACCO just torched your defense with those mediocre receivers? Eli is about to have a field day. And is Gronk gonna be 100%? 90%? 80%?

Eli Manning just cemented himself as better than his older brother, imo. Especially if he beats Tom Brady twice. Peyton beat.. Rex GrosssssssswhydidyouthrowthatpassMAN, and even though I am a Peyton fan, he lost them that Superbowl vs the Saints with that pick six. Remember, it's not always the team with the better record. The Packers were in playoff mode for 5-6 weeks last season, and the Giants have been in the same situation. They lose any of the last five games and they aren't where they are now.

Giants 27, Patriots 24. Eli cracks a smile, and does two fist pumps throughout the game.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

The Gronk could bulldoze the entire Dline at 60%, so I don't think he'll be an issue. >.>

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Joe FLACCO just torched your defense with those mediocre receivers? Eli is about to have a field day. And is Gronk gonna be 100%? 90%? 80%?

I think you're forgetting that the Patriots have one of the worst defenses in the game and give up too many yards to count. But yes, Brady was definitely off--overthrowing passes and making lame decisions. We'll see how both teams shape up for the next two weeks.

 

[theeboredone]

I'm pretty sure Gronk will be okay after 2 weeks. Also, Brady did miss practice due to a shoulder injury so that MIGHT have played a role in his bad throwing. Let's face it, there were some passes that he's usually accurate with that he wasn't making yesterday. So within 2 weeks, he should be good to go as well.

While Giants on paper have the better D, it will come down to the battle of offense. Who do you trust more? Giants 3 WR studs in Nicks, Cruz, and Manningham? Or do you trust the Double TE + WR combo with Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker?

My take is, whoever has the ball last will win the game.

Also, just a random note, I think with guys like Vernon, Gronk, and Jimmy Graham showing up, this might lead to the evolution of the line backer spot as well. We might be seeing taller LB's that might not be able to cover the small RBs, but go toe to toe with these TEs.

Final Edit: Anyone see that play in the 4th where they stuck PATRICK WILLIS on Cruz? He went yard for yard with him when their corner Carlos Rodgers was getting burned. He continues to impress me.

 

[ZIO]

I see the Giants winning.

Obviously some bias.

But, I am also thinking - Giants defeated Pats early in the season, I think it was during the first half of it. I think that's when Pats were most on fire. Their second half was pretty average, barely edging out many teams, one being them Redskins. And then that win yesterday wasn't really because of Brady. Both teams played hard, but it shows that Pats had a red carpet treatment this season.

When they get on the field, I feel Brady will have thoughts of '07 SB and I think that will effect his playing. Either good or bad. But I've seen Brady choke, especially during that SB and every play-off appearance after that and before now. So, there's room for this man to choke, and I think he will.