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Okay, I've got to get this off my chest.
This. Can also last a few games even. I mean, Ice Climbers, Piranha Plant, Wii Fit Trainer, just to name a few are horribly designed characters. It took until Ultimate to have Ice Climbers function properly and without weird exploits.
Zelda and Kirby don't have enough and it's starting to show. How can a new Mario newcomer be warranted every time, but not one for Zelda, or Kirby? I mean we reached Piranha Plant level with Mario. Might be a more recognizable character than both Impa and Bandana Dee, sure, but still pretty down the barrel.
and I’d be telling everyone it deserves to be over saturated
Tbh, I don't think the sole thing that prevented Zelda from getting a new character in every game was the sheer lack of precedent and I doubt they'd gone with sole villains specifically even if it was.
You know by the logic "its more recognizable" a brick block from mario is more recognizable than The Human from undertale for example!
Just like me and Fire emblem.
Bye Sheik, TL and YL
Ah, yes, Super Smash Bros Monkey's Paw
How? How would you even make that movie work?
That's what I'm asking too.
well based on how illumination usually do things, they'll make it anyway without working out how to make it work
If this is what needed to get new Zelda characters in, so be it. The more the merrier, but these are definitely part of what's wrong with the Zelda representation. Amongst Ganondorf being like he was pre Ultimate.Bye Sheik, TL and YL
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I don't really agree. I think Zelda representation is flawed because of its lack of content, not because of what's already here. I mean, Young Link is superfluous at this point but we can't really judge Ultimate and Everyone is Here by "normal" standards.
What did Sheik do wrong??? She’s literally just a separated half of what was one character.
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I’ve only just awoken from my rage induced coma
I want this to happen entirely on the basis that it'll make people angry and i think that's funnyIf we're gonna bring up zelda reps then I feel like I need to talk about how unironically slept on Tingle is as a potential pick.
Think about it. He's an actually recurring character in the main series that isn't Impa or Beedle, has a lot of moveset potential and is playable in Hyrule Warriors, and even though he doesn't have most popularity among other candidates for a new Zelda character, he's is well-received in Japan... I mean, the guy has three spin-off games over there, for crying out loud.
I will say I am a little biased because I love wackier picks, and honestly Smash is surprisingly lacking in a cloud-cuckoo-lander-type character that I think would be really fun to see in battle. I could picture him not taking the match seriously at any point and fighting with his balloon, trinkets he has on hand, and clumsy flailing that just happens to hit foes on accident.
I like the duality of 2B, seemingly one of the easiest characters to license coming from Square, one of the most exacting companies to work with.
I'm at the point where as long as Zelda gets a newcomer that isn't a version of Link, Zelda or Ganon/dorf, I'll be pretty happy.If we're gonna bring up zelda reps then I feel like I need to talk about how unironically slept on Tingle is as a potential pick.
Think about it. He's an actually recurring character in the main series that isn't Impa or Beedle, has a lot of moveset potential and is playable in Hyrule Warriors, and even though he doesn't have most popularity among other candidates for a new Zelda character, he's is well-received in Japan... I mean, the guy has three spin-off games over there, for crying out loud.
I will say I am a little biased because I love wackier picks, and honestly Smash is surprisingly lacking in a cloud-cuckoo-lander-type character that I think would be really fun to see in battle. I could picture him not taking the match seriously at any point and fighting with his balloon, trinkets he has on hand, and clumsy flailing that just happens to hit foes on accident.
I think CERO is stricter about upskirts than cleavage, but I think both can be altered without it really changing all that much for 2B, both in look or in chances. They can just go for white booty shorts under her skirt like ZSS's alt, maybe lower the skirt's hem a bit.
True. So they'd modify her. A number of characters, especially third-parties, would have to work around the rating system. Whether that means slight aesthetic modifications, not being able to bring over their whole arsenal, or just making some attacks less graphic.
People just really dislike his Wind Waker incarnation, especially for the Triforce map section and maybe Four Swords Adventure where he stole your Force Gems. Hardly anyone has any issue with his Majora's Mask incarnation, who is just a map maker selling maps to help his father(and his maps are much much more cheaper compared to the close-to-400 Rupee amount for each Triforce map in Wind Waker).
Is Square Enix really a hard company to work with? I feel like we discuss them in the context of Smash when it comes to licensing but a quick look at Final Fantasy wiki's (incomplete) collaborations page shows that they had a lot of history when it comes to lending FF IP alone to other games and whatnot.
I believe they're very particular in how their IP gets implemented, from the content of the series (mostly) only coming from the games of those particular characters (FF7, DQ3,4,8,11) to the absolute dearth of literally any new content for FF in base (including stuff that wouldn't normally be DLC like an AT or a new FS for Cloud, or a single piece of art for Cloud's spirit), to apparently having a "no multiple Heroes" rule which, although Smash got around it, was still a thing, to clearly only agreeing to Mii waves with exclusively their content, to Cloud being absent in any CG trailer that wasn't for a SE character, to the whole VA debacle (which people credit to Nintendo being anti-union, even though there are several credited union VAs in Ultimate, like Roger Craig Smith, David Hayter, Yuri Lowenthal and Haley Joel Osment - which means it's likely something specific in their contracts that conflicts with Smash).
